Let's compare Wally and Houston at their respective ages instead of careers. I'll throw last year out the window since Wally was injured for most of it, so we'll look at 2 seasons ago, when he was 25.

Wally at 25:
17.6 points per game, 4.6 rpg, 2.6 apg. 48% from the field, 87% from the line, 42% from downtown.
Houston at 25:
15 points per game, 3 rpg, 2 apg. 42% from the field, 80% from the line, 39% from downtown.

Plus, Houston will probably be injured. Wally is a better player than Houston was at his respective age. I'd do this trade in a heartbeat.

I can't believe any of you guys actually think this is a bad deal. We ship Kidd out of the East which makes us even more capable of winning the Atlantic, and we turn a decent PF in KT, to one of the top SF's of the game and a suitable replacement for Kurt. A number of people here have been saying that they want Sweetney to get a ton of minutes this year, well here is your chance. I really don't see how any of you would be upset if we turned Kurt into Wally. I've said it before at least a hundred times, we are in a position where we need to get as many assets as we can. Wally just gives us even more flexibility to trade TT next year if he doesn't play well for us. This is a win-win situation, we would free up more minutes for Sweets while also getting another big asset. Plus, if H20 misses time, you have a lineup of

C-Mohammed
PF-Sweetney
SF-Tim Thomas
SG-Wally
PG-Marbury

and you still have Crawford coming off the bench. With a healthy Allan, you could have two excellent sharpshooters in Wally and Allan on the same floor at the same time with Stephon leading the way. Plus, if we do this deal while getting rid of someone like Moochie or Shandon, it only makes the deal even better. Also, Wally actually wants to play for us, why not add another talented player that has always wanted to play for the Knicks?

[Edited by - s3231 on 09/16/2004 16:54:51]

Good point who needs defense?

KT and Shandon for Wally and Aaron.....

Why is that so hard not to love?

The trade opens up the starting spot for Sweetney, Nazr is the center. Aaron Williams, Baker and Jerome back up both of them.....

Timmy has Wally on his back and Wally brings alot of energy. Craw and Marbs rule the back court with Houston and Penny....

If anything the Knicks practices will be like playoff games....that would just be awesome....not only will they be up for games but they know they have to bring it in practice or guys will get benched.

This trade is just something that needs to happen to NY.....it just makes the Knicks head a shoulders above anything in the East not named Detroit or Indiana.

Just awesome.....this trade also could open the door for a deadline trade.

Posted by Andrew:

Posted by crzymdups:


This trade doesn't work under the cap. The trade I posted early with the Knicks giving up only Kurt and Moochie does work.

Funny....it worked when I put it in the checker (1922615)...why didn't it work for you?

Well, the realgm trade doesn't take into account Kurt's 15% trade kicker as far as I can tell. For trading purposes, Kurt's salary is 6.76 or something. When I do the math that way, I don't see how the trade y'all propose could possibly work.

The Portland Oregonian reports the Blazers and T-Wolves have discussed a trade sending Shareef Abdur-Rahim to Minnesota for Wally Szczerbiak.

http://www.sportsline.com/nba/players/playerpage/139096

Posted by knicks1248:

This trade make a whole lot of sense if youve seen Tim Thomas career play out in the NBA. If Fugazy gets lazy Wally gets his spot, its that simple. Then down the line we have options because now we have names to trade. Besides I think Wally is already way better than TT. Just my opinion.

Yeah, if that will light a fire under tt, i'm all for it.

But in all reality, it makes No sense, other than stock piling, wallly is a worse defender then TT. At least TT has hieght and can post up, wally's a penetrating Allan houston, who still doesn't penetrate nearly enough, so what does this really do for us.

We get rid of Shandon and Moochie, free up a roster spot, and can sign a player like Keon Clark or another young center!

Posted by Bonn1997:

If the Knicks get Wally, would you offer TT for a center (maybe Big Z or Theo Ratliff plus something to sweeten the deal a little)?

I'd offer it, but Portland and Cleveland wouldn't stop laughing and it would hurt my feelings.

they weren't and aren't getting anywhere with Kurt either