TripleThreat wrote:nyvector16 wrote:Larry Brown was a coaching diva when he was with Knicks... His way or he would shame you into submission in the media. This had a heavy toll on all our point guards. He had a very very adverse affect on the careers of the point guards under him while with the Knicks... He was a terrible coach... The problem was never him, his system, or culture.. The problem was always the player.. His ridiculous obsession with Ramon Sessions got old quick. I was happy Brown was fired, too bad it did not happen sooner...
The opposite of love is not hate, it's indifference.
My observation and experience with pro coaches is it's absolutely fine if the players hate your guts. It's also fine if they love you to no end. Pepper Johnson would set orphanages on fire all over NY for the Big Tuna. Phil Simms wouldn't piss on Tuna if he was on fire. Simms hated him. But Simms was open that Tuna made him a better player. The issue is if they become indifferent to you. Hate means they are reacting to you, which is fine. A good coach doesn't make his players love him, a good coach gets a player to direct that hate at the opponent.
This is the lesson of Tim Grover when he trained Jordan, Pippen, Ron Harper, etc for years. Jordan came out and said several times that Grover clearly did not give two ****s if Jordan liked him or fired him. Everyone spent time kissing Jordan's ass. Grover had zero problem telling Jordan to go **** himself if it came down to it. Jordan was a classic piece of **** thug. The best player ever, but a ****ing two bit thug. He could mentally break a guy like Rodney McCray. But when he stepped to Robert Parish, Parish took no bones in telling him he'd kneecap Jordan and end his career.
Billy Beane, Bill Belichick, Bill Parcells, Chuck Daly, Coach K, John Wooden, they all said the same thing over time. Deep down, players want to be coached. Some players gravitate to this naturally ( like a Steph Curry or a Grant Hill or a Shane Battier, just natural professionals) Some dudes though, they do that bull****, you need to prove to me how hard you are, then I can respect you. Assholes like that, you need to have zero ****s given.
Rule of ANY relationship - The one willing to walk away and leave everything behind at any point is the one with the power.
Larry Brown - Zero ****s given. Great technical coach. Gigantic *******.
Marbury is talking about Brown. Fuming. Brown is probably jacking off somewhere watching 50 Shades Of Grey and eating raw oysters. Zero ****s given. Who has the power here?
Its just gonna rub lots of people the wrong way when you have zero ****s given.
IJDGAF - I Just Don't Give A Fuck.
Try it sometime. In the middle of a conversation with someone you don't want to talk to ( excluding work/career) just walk away. Middle of sentence, walk.
Do I think Larry Brown is an *******? Yes, but he also makes me laugh. He just did not give a ****. He treated the players exactly like they should mostly be treated - like petulant spoiled children. "He said bad things bout me in the press!" So the **** what. Its his job to push your buttons. Play better and he'll shut the **** up.
Why do you think music bands break up? Spend months and years in tight spaces, compressed with the same people, over and over and over. You think most of those people wont drive you nuts eventually? Why do you think people in small circles are always ****ing each other or ****ing each others wives and into petty bull**** like gambling debts and gossip and general backbiting?
Nearly all great coaches have someone in their past who hates their guts
Nearly all **** coaches have nearly everyone be indifferent to them.
Agree 100%.
Hate and fear are the other sides of love.
Where there is hate - there is no love and fear.
Where there is fear - there in no love or hate.
And where there is love - there is no hate and no fear.
The indifference or dispassion is the other side of passion.
Passion makes you weak and dependent, never satisfied and often depressed.
But dispassion gives you enormous power and control over you life, centerness.
All great coaches and players, Jordan and Brown included master this skill.
That's why they posses power and that's why they are hated so much.
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