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Apparently an NBA ready defender but also a kid that put up +40 in dleague last year for Red Claws.

Watching some film --- I like his size and he has some wiggle.....like that he is big/long with defensive skill-set.

TheGame wrote:Allen looks decent. Not sure what the thinking is but I am guess Mudiay or Baker are done. The Knicks are risking having too much young talent. Fizdale is going to have his hands full keeping everything together.

Being obviously optimistic here but this kid just gives off a great vibe —- feels like a young kid the Heat would bring along. Like that he is really big but is a defender first.

Would just love to leave camp with a roster that has some legit defensive dogs on it with lots of size and length 1-5

SupremeCommander wrote:I asked a buddy of mine who's a Cs fan about this... His take:

He said that he's a typical Brad Stevens player. Said he's really strong and athletic. He has no jumper though. If he can develop his shot he should be a player

SupremeCommander wrote:I asked a buddy of mine who's a Cs fan about this... His take:

He said that he's a typical Brad Stevens player. Said he's really strong and athletic. He has no jumper though. If he can develop his shot he should be a player

Looking at some of his combine measurements and athletic testing.

6'1" without shoes but a 6'9.5" wingspan. Verticals looked good at 33" Stand Vert and I believe 35.5" Max Vert

His shot form looks pretty solid to me -- read a Schmitz piece where he noted he struggles with his confidence but kid put up 46 in D-League last year and was 1st team all D-League defender I believe. He was JUCO player of year before moving onto AZ -- if you watch some of his tape -- he really is a solid strong defender who moves his feet and contests shot with long reach. Reach is longer than 6'6" tall Terrence Ferguson for example.

Schmitz referred to him as a 3D player because his on ball skills and instincts were limited but I think D-League time has helped this kid considerable.

I actually have some hope for this player and at a minimum love this type of hard nosed player to bring into camp and make things a dog fight.

blkexec wrote:

LivingLegend wrote:

SupremeCommander wrote:I asked a buddy of mine who's a Cs fan about this... His take:

He said that he's a typical Brad Stevens player. Said he's really strong and athletic. He has no jumper though. If he can develop his shot he should be a player

Looking at some of his combine measurements and athletic testing.

6'1" without shoes but a 6'9.5" wingspan. Verticals looked good at 33" Stand Vert and I believe 35.5" Max Vert

His shot form looks pretty solid to me -- read a Schmitz piece where he noted he struggles with his confidence but kid put up 46 in D-League last year and was 1st team all D-League defender I believe. He was JUCO player of year before moving onto AZ -- if you watch some of his tape -- he really is a solid strong defender who moves his feet and contests shot with long reach. Reach is longer than 6'6" tall Terrence Ferguson for example.

Schmitz referred to him as a 3D player because his on ball skills and instincts were limited but I think D-League time has helped this kid considerable.

I actually have some hope for this player and at a minimum love this type of hard nosed player to bring into camp and make things a dog fight.

If we put all the players Fiz and the FO picked, compared to the players that were here b4 Fiz. I think since our new coaching arrival, we've added more positionless players with some dog in them. Exactly what Fiz said in his press conference. At a minimum, those players will bring it in practice. And it's going to be very telling to see the different contrast with these new long athletes we have at the end of the bench.....Because you know they are hungry, which will give Frank and Burke plenty of work during practice. I wouldn't be surprised if these guys are called up a lot and part of the main rotation. We are also primed for a trade. Very nice low risk additions this off season.

Nalod wrote:

BigDaddyG wrote:

blkexec wrote:

LivingLegend wrote:

SupremeCommander wrote:I asked a buddy of mine who's a Cs fan about this... His take:

He said that he's a typical Brad Stevens player. Said he's really strong and athletic. He has no jumper though. If he can develop his shot he should be a player

Looking at some of his combine measurements and athletic testing.

6'1" without shoes but a 6'9.5" wingspan. Verticals looked good at 33" Stand Vert and I believe 35.5" Max Vert

His shot form looks pretty solid to me -- read a Schmitz piece where he noted he struggles with his confidence but kid put up 46 in D-League last year and was 1st team all D-League defender I believe. He was JUCO player of year before moving onto AZ -- if you watch some of his tape -- he really is a solid strong defender who moves his feet and contests shot with long reach. Reach is longer than 6'6" tall Terrence Ferguson for example.

Schmitz referred to him as a 3D player because his on ball skills and instincts were limited but I think D-League time has helped this kid considerable.

I actually have some hope for this player and at a minimum love this type of hard nosed player to bring into camp and make things a dog fight.

If we put all the players Fiz and the FO picked, compared to the players that were here b4 Fiz. I think since our new coaching arrival, we've added more positionless players with some dog in them. Exactly what Fiz said in his press conference. At a minimum, those players will bring it in practice. And it's going to be very telling to see the different contrast with these new long athletes we have at the end of the bench.....Because you know they are hungry, which will give Frank and Burke plenty of work during practice. I wouldn't be surprised if these guys are called up a lot and part of the main rotation. We are also primed for a trade. Very nice low risk additions this off season.

This exactly what Miami has done. I like this approach. The only thing you have to worry about is that you have to pay these guys if they ever blow up. A Tyler Johnson contract here, a Josh Richardson contract there...all of a sudden you're treadmill team with little cap flexibility. We're a long way from that, but it's something to think about if guys like Mario and Vonleh ever put it together this season.

Its ok if some players do well because others won't.
ANd if we get shorted like we did ATL with Hardaway (He is going to blossom this year), then so be it.
We become a place for players will come to succeed. Some stick, some suck, some move on to bigger paychecks. Not a bad gig.
The best teams castoffs are often good players! We can't worry about keeping them all.
Somewhere Baker is staring at his bank statement and counting his lucky stars! He likely gets a chance because of his deal but the competition will be a much larger pool than in the past.
Do I see Baker in a Celtic uniform because he is a big strong kid and would do well on a more advanced team, or cuz white guys are history Celtic player?
Remember when Marbury was a celtic? Weird, not cuz he is black, but its Marbury!