TheGame wrote:

martin wrote:

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LMAO. That is classic. "Yes, you did Brett"

OMG - I have to share this with some peeps. Incredible!!!

djsunyc wrote:are there any republicans here? i'm very curious to hear their thoughts on how the GOP is handling the kavanaugh thing.

to me, the entire GOP are basically telling women that any claims of sexual harrassment will be discarded or minimized and it will not impact the white male accused in any way.

I am not Republican but not Democrat also.
I believe in the rule of law above politics and above emotions.
If someone is proven guilty in the court of law then only he/she can be morally convicted.
Otherwise it is just one woman word against one man word, or one man word against another man word.
Ability to make up sht is equal in man and woman alike.
In any case the man that this woman is taking about is already gone for 36 years.
The current person has nothing to do with what it was 36 years back. Water under the bridge.

GustavBahler wrote:

arkrud wrote:

djsunyc wrote:are there any republicans here? i'm very curious to hear their thoughts on how the GOP is handling the kavanaugh thing.

to me, the entire GOP are basically telling women that any claims of sexual harrassment will be discarded or minimized and it will not impact the white male accused in any way.

I am not Republican but not Democrat also.
I believe in the rule of law above politics and above emotions.
If someone is proven guilty in the court of law then only he/she can be morally convicted.
Otherwise it is just one woman word against one man word, or one man word against another man word.
Ability to make up sht is equal in man and woman alike.
In any case the man that this woman is taking about is already gone for 36 years.
The current person has nothing to do with what it was 36 years back. Water under the bridge.

Kavanaugh didnt behave like someone who had put the past behind him. Sounded like a "bro" who never left high school.

Acted like he was entitled to be a Supreme Court justice. He isnt.

This is a matter of opinion.
You may be right but this is not the point.
The way this all thing transpired is a disgrace and unnecessary one.
No one is looking good here. Everybody lost.
Woman were used as sexual object and now used as political tool.
I do not know what is worth...

arkrud wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

arkrud wrote:

djsunyc wrote:are there any republicans here? i'm very curious to hear their thoughts on how the GOP is handling the kavanaugh thing.

to me, the entire GOP are basically telling women that any claims of sexual harrassment will be discarded or minimized and it will not impact the white male accused in any way.

I am not Republican but not Democrat also.
I believe in the rule of law above politics and above emotions.
If someone is proven guilty in the court of law then only he/she can be morally convicted.
Otherwise it is just one woman word against one man word, or one man word against another man word.
Ability to make up sht is equal in man and woman alike.
In any case the man that this woman is taking about is already gone for 36 years.
The current person has nothing to do with what it was 36 years back. Water under the bridge.

Kavanaugh didnt behave like someone who had put the past behind him. Sounded like a "bro" who never left high school.

Acted like he was entitled to be a Supreme Court justice. He isnt.

This is a matter of opinion.
You may be right but this is not the point.
The way this all thing transpired is a disgrace and unnecessary one.
No one is looking good here. Everybody lost.
Woman were used as sexual object and now used as political tool.
I do not know what is worth...

Women. There are 3 separate accusers of his sexual misconduct. Also Brett did not come off as someone who was judicial material. He seemed full of himself and bias onwards Republicans.

wargames wrote:

arkrud wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

arkrud wrote:

djsunyc wrote:are there any republicans here? i'm very curious to hear their thoughts on how the GOP is handling the kavanaugh thing.

to me, the entire GOP are basically telling women that any claims of sexual harrassment will be discarded or minimized and it will not impact the white male accused in any way.

I am not Republican but not Democrat also.
I believe in the rule of law above politics and above emotions.
If someone is proven guilty in the court of law then only he/she can be morally convicted.
Otherwise it is just one woman word against one man word, or one man word against another man word.
Ability to make up sht is equal in man and woman alike.
In any case the man that this woman is taking about is already gone for 36 years.
The current person has nothing to do with what it was 36 years back. Water under the bridge.

Kavanaugh didnt behave like someone who had put the past behind him. Sounded like a "bro" who never left high school.

Acted like he was entitled to be a Supreme Court justice. He isnt.

This is a matter of opinion.
You may be right but this is not the point.
The way this all thing transpired is a disgrace and unnecessary one.
No one is looking good here. Everybody lost.
Woman were used as sexual object and now used as political tool.
I do not know what is worth...

Women. There are 3 separate accusers of his sexual misconduct. Also Brett did not come off as someone who was judicial material. He seemed full of himself and bias onwards Republicans.

In addition to the allegations, what was also disturbing was watching a supreme justice nominee who believed that his nomination was assured. Then proceeded to go scorched earth on half of the Senate Judiciary committee anyway.

Didnt care that he sounded like a partisan hack with his Clintons talk. Didnt care that he was creating the impression that he couldnt be impartial.

Kavanaugh thought his confirmation was in the bag, and showed his arse. Now he will be lucky if he gets his old job back.

meloshouldgo wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:Tip of the hat to Senator Flake for putting the brakes on this until the FBI has a look at the allegations. Also props for the women who confronted Flake in the elevator, and helping him change his mind. Kavanaugh still might get confirmed, but at least the Senate is doing their job.

He put a "one week" deadline on it. After which Kavanaugh gets confirmed. You do realize how long the Mueller investigation has taken right? I hope the FBI can actually get to the bottom of this in a well, but I am low on optimism.

He did the right thing. You are underestimating the FBI's ability to do a throrough investigation like this, in short order. Its what they do.

The Mueller investigation is an entirely different animal. Many more moving parts.

meloshouldgo wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

meloshouldgo wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:Tip of the hat to Senator Flake for putting the brakes on this until the FBI has a look at the allegations. Also props for the women who confronted Flake in the elevator, and helping him change his mind. Kavanaugh still might get confirmed, but at least the Senate is doing their job.

He put a "one week" deadline on it. After which Kavanaugh gets confirmed. You do realize how long the Mueller investigation has taken right? I hope the FBI can actually get to the bottom of this in a well, but I am low on optimism.

He did the right thing. You are underestimating the FBI's ability to do a throrough investigation like this, in short order. Its what they do.

The Mueller investigation is an entirely different animal. Many more moving parts.

I think it's still a farce. I watched the Senate hearing not one republican showed any interest in questioning Kavanaugh, they were holding an investigation into Feinstein under the guise of letting Dr. Ford be heard. Lindsey Graham sings up how they feel. I am glad Flake did what he did, I am not buying it will allow for a complete investigation.

If FBA will have a time machine or will be able to read mind for memories long passed...
Polygraph can be useful... but using it on layer with this experience is most likely useless exercise.
After 35 years we remember only what we want to remember not what really transpired.

meloshouldgo wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

meloshouldgo wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:Tip of the hat to Senator Flake for putting the brakes on this until the FBI has a look at the allegations. Also props for the women who confronted Flake in the elevator, and helping him change his mind. Kavanaugh still might get confirmed, but at least the Senate is doing their job.

He put a "one week" deadline on it. After which Kavanaugh gets confirmed. You do realize how long the Mueller investigation has taken right? I hope the FBI can actually get to the bottom of this in a well, but I am low on optimism.

He did the right thing. You are underestimating the FBI's ability to do a throrough investigation like this, in short order. Its what they do.

The Mueller investigation is an entirely different animal. Many more moving parts.

I think it's still a farce. I watched the Senate hearing not one republican showed any interest in questioning Kavanaugh, they were holding an investigation into Feinstein under the guise of letting Dr. Ford be heard. Lindsey Graham sings up how they feel. I am glad Flake did what he did, I am not buying it will allow for a complete investigation.

Agree that the additional limitations might make a thorough investigation difficult, if not impossible. Up to the Senate to call foul.

Stand by my point that the FBI have the skills to do this fast, if they arent hamstrung. They figured out who was responsible for the first WTC bombing literally hours after it happened.

I heard that the White House might extend the deadline, if they find anything. But yeah, we'll see about that.

The effect of Kavanaugh's testimony is starting to bake in. Will be surprised if he makes it.

martin wrote:

arkrud wrote:

meloshouldgo wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

meloshouldgo wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:Tip of the hat to Senator Flake for putting the brakes on this until the FBI has a look at the allegations. Also props for the women who confronted Flake in the elevator, and helping him change his mind. Kavanaugh still might get confirmed, but at least the Senate is doing their job.

He put a "one week" deadline on it. After which Kavanaugh gets confirmed. You do realize how long the Mueller investigation has taken right? I hope the FBI can actually get to the bottom of this in a well, but I am low on optimism.

He did the right thing. You are underestimating the FBI's ability to do a throrough investigation like this, in short order. Its what they do.

The Mueller investigation is an entirely different animal. Many more moving parts.

I think it's still a farce. I watched the Senate hearing not one republican showed any interest in questioning Kavanaugh, they were holding an investigation into Feinstein under the guise of letting Dr. Ford be heard. Lindsey Graham sings up how they feel. I am glad Flake did what he did, I am not buying it will allow for a complete investigation.

If FBA will have a time machine or will be able to read mind for memories long passed...
Polygraph can be useful... but using it on layer with this experience is most likely useless exercise.
After 35 years we remember only what we want to remember not what really transpired.

Akrud, you really have little to nothing to add to this thread or topic, feel free to stick to knicks

Not sure whom I offended by stating the obvious. And I meant both the dude and the ladies.
Also what can be a board contribution rather that some thoughts. Is this some corporate meeting to give up solutions and decisions?
Anyways you guys are to serious about politics so I am out of this one. Hard to communicate with people with no sense of humor...