TripleThreat wrote:Mike1989 wrote:The question is would tanking for a high pick prevent us from being a contender in 2019 free agency?
This is not the problem.
The problem is that the Knicks cannot organically tank. The "organic" version of tanking is to trade off veteran players for draft assets. You use the minutes during games to try to develop young drafted talent and UDFA type talent, and see what you have or try to raise their value to retrade them. You naturally lose enough games to be in the running for a high draft pick in the lottery, infusing you with hope for a franchise player.
This is the ideal scenario.
The Knicks have players who they can't trade, but will help them win enough games to NOT get a high lottery pick. Also the East is gutted, so it's much harder to lose games when your middling team faces other teams who aren't as strong as Western teams. Also the league is more top heavy, so you'll have more teams starting to tank earlier, which means the Knicks will increase their win count there also.
THIS FREE AGENCY was the time to strike. No teams have cap space, this would have been the time to reach out and have max money to throw at someone. Or get players into bargain deals. Avery Bradley signed for 2/24, he might have been swayed by 3/36, if it was there to use. IT2 signed for the vets minimum, he might have been swayed by a two year deal. This would also be the time to absorb contracts for teams desperate to stay out of the tax zone or repeater zone.
ALL OF THIS WAS PREDICTABLE. Every team has cap analysts forecasting years in advance. Any forward thinking NBA front office would have seen this offseason coming two years ago. Instead the Knicks blew their wad on Rose, Lee, Noah, THJr, ugh.
You can't bank on free agency. Anything Perry says in the press means ZERO. If Klay Thompson says I want to be a Knick, do you think Perry will stick to some random interview and not try to sign him? You build assets, you stay flexible, when something interesting happens, you are prepared to strike.
The Knicks are too far off to interest a Tier 1 free agent.
This is exactly what the Knicks get for hiring a front office head (Jackson) who had no training and experience at that kind of job. Then he hired a coach ( Fisher) who had no training and experience at that job. What did anyone think was going to happen?
Keep trying to draft well. Don't sign anyone until Tier 5 of free agency ( they don't have any money anyway). Suck it up and let these ugly contracts expire because there is no other choice.
You don't hire a mechanic to run a bakery. You don't hire a baker to fix someone's brakes. Hiring Phil Jackson was one of the most purely dumb things I've seen in professional sports and I've seen some of the ugliest things possible with the Cleveland Browns and Oakland Raiders that didn't even make the press. How you **** up to the measure of Al Davis' last senile years and the dumpster fire that is the Browns is beyond me.
Phil Jackson horse****ed this team. Full stop. End of story. But he drafted Zinger! Any first year NBA intern could have done that. It's going to take time for Perry, a guy trained for this job, to try to fix it.
He didn't need his incompetent boss to throw gas on the fire by signing Hardaway jr. Every time I think this nonsense is over someone does something stupid