knicks1248 wrote:

Cartman718 wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:I don't have a lot faith in us nabbing an All star if we finish the season with 25 to 30 wins. We just seen this movie play out 3 yrs ago when the only guys we got we're lee, over paid for NOAH, kOQ, and dwill, and we had enough to sign a max player,which none came calling.

We need 2 or 3 All stars to contend, and you need all stars to attract other all stars. Our young players have to play at the level the Celtics and Sixers youngsters played at..

who says we need to contend right now...we are finally building the right away. Pretty sure that Perry and Mills and Fizdale are not interested in shortchanging youth development by trading away assets. If no one joins from FA class of 2019, then FO will be content to let youngsters develop for another year. I do expect this team to be very competitive in the 2020-2021 season regardless of who signs in summer 2020. By then, our team would have matured enough to be like the young Celtics team we see today. That in itself would attract stars.

It's not like the Celtics team had all-stars in their lineup when Kyrie requested to be traded and was ok with going to Celtics. At least we have one bonafide one in KP, the others will develop.

A lot will be base on how these young guys play and how fiz develops these players. While you may be ok with skipping over 2019 FA class I highly doubt that's the FO thinking, as they have clearly stated over and over that 2019 is the yr.

Now unless you want more Noah, baker and THJ type contracts doled out, we're going to need to have a very productive season, or your going to over pay for 2nd tier talent.

I wouldn't trade for lillard, but i would cj

I can almost guarantee they'd be ok with skipping over the 2019 FA class if it meant sacrificing our promising youth. Trading for Lillard does that so that's automatically out. Same would apply to RFAs next year

Lillard turns 28 in a couple of days, and would be 29 by the time he played with a fully ready KP.

Knowing the Knicks, we would let KP play the second half of the season, win a few extra games, and we would lose the restricted 2019 #1 we would give up for Lillard.

Might do it if he was 24 going on 25, and KP was not injured. He seems made for a team ready to win now, though.

I want to see our young players develop together, and see what they can grow into. Won't say that I'm not intrigued by having Lillard with the Knicks, but giving up two teenage top picks, and more in the future, seems like we are going back to the old days again.

How do folks think GS got Durant to go there? They built from the draft and picked up some complimentary pieces.
Curry, Thompson, Green, and Harrison Barnes were not "blue chip" players when they were drafted...they developed over time. Curry was on 3 lottery teams, and teams that won 23 & 26 games during his first 3 years. Green was a 22yr old scrub his first season, and only a 20MPG rotation player his second season.

If we are looking for a star player, I'd rather wait for Irving, who has roots in the East, and we could make the Knicks better without giving away young talent, and also hurt the Celtics at the same time.

Trading for Lillard would be the same as trading for Anthony (Maybe worse). No matter what folks want to say, we hurt the team in the long run by trading away players who, even if you didn't love them, might have been trade assets later on. We were also forced to use our contract amnesty provision (is that what it was called) on someone other than Amare, who it should have been used on.

Why give up young assets and draft picks for Lillard, when you might have Irving, a younger player (though injury prone) available after next year?