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BigRedDog
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7/9/2018  11:45 AM
Knixkik wrote:Is tomorrow really the last game? Or is there a playoff of some sort?

I heard each team is guaranteed 5 games

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7/9/2018  12:33 PM
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newyorknewyork wrote:Why i'snt Kornet playing? Anyone know?

Kornet and Hicks are both hurt. One has an hamstring issue and the other has an ankle issue. Nothing serious.

Right, plus this is literally no reason to play them when you have others that need minutes.

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7/9/2018  12:35 PM
BigRedDog wrote:
Knixkik wrote:Is tomorrow really the last game? Or is there a playoff of some sort?

I heard each team is guaranteed 5 games

I think the teams with the best records after 3 make the playoffs. While the other team face off to play the guaranteed 5?

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7/9/2018  1:15 PM
newyorknewyork wrote:
BigRedDog wrote:
Knixkik wrote:Is tomorrow really the last game? Or is there a playoff of some sort?

I heard each team is guaranteed 5 games

I think the teams with the best records after 3 make the playoffs. While the other team face off to play the guaranteed 5?

Looking at last years bracket - it looked like there were 24 teams. Top 8 appeared to get a bye -- remaining 16 played each other to advance in basically a 1 and done tourney. If you lose say your 4th game -- you go over to loser bracket to get your 5 games. If you win - you keep pushing forward like NCAA tourney.

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7/10/2018  12:15 PM
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nixluva wrote:FOLKS WE’VE GOT SOME YOUNG STUDS‼️ The future is now! 🌟😎
This. Haven't been this excited about the Knicks in a long time. Might have been opening night when they beat the Heatles during the 54 win season. What a draft.

Really like Knox. Was hoping the Knicks would have taken Mikal but Knox looks like what a top 10 pick should look like. He is extremely athletic and seems to have loads of confidence.

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7/10/2018  2:19 PM
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nixluva wrote:FOLKS WE’VE GOT SOME YOUNG STUDS‼️ The future is now! 🌟😎
This. Haven't been this excited about the Knicks in a long time. Might have been opening night when they beat the Heatles during the 54 win season. What a draft.

Really like Knox. Was hoping the Knicks would have taken Mikal but Knox looks like what a top 10 pick should look like. He is extremely athletic and seems to have loads of confidence.

Has anybody watched Mikal? He still reminds me of a skinny Courtney Lee....Solid role player flirting to be a starter. Know is a solid starter flirting to be a Hall Of Famer....

SGA I heard was having a good start and I thought he was our dark horse selection. They most trust the combination of PGs we have and PG coaching staff....filled with ex PGs.

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7/10/2018  4:05 PM
HofstraBBall wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
nixluva wrote:FOLKS WE’VE GOT SOME YOUNG STUDS‼️ The future is now! 🌟😎
This. Haven't been this excited about the Knicks in a long time. Might have been opening night when they beat the Heatles during the 54 win season. What a draft.

Really like Knox. Was hoping the Knicks would have taken Mikal but Knox looks like what a top 10 pick should look like. He is extremely athletic and seems to have loads of confidence.


Not a flashy ball handler at the top of the key...no over-dribbling, but at some point in the next few years, he will be impossible to stop off the dribble if Fizdale uses him in isolation. If he works on his passing, and court awareness when he drives, he will also pick up a ton of assists.
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7/10/2018  7:16 PM
blkexec wrote:
HofstraBBall wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
nixluva wrote:FOLKS WE’VE GOT SOME YOUNG STUDS‼️ The future is now! 🌟😎
This. Haven't been this excited about the Knicks in a long time. Might have been opening night when they beat the Heatles during the 54 win season. What a draft.

Really like Knox. Was hoping the Knicks would have taken Mikal but Knox looks like what a top 10 pick should look like. He is extremely athletic and seems to have loads of confidence.

Has anybody watched Mikal? He still reminds me of a skinny Courtney Lee....Solid role player flirting to be a starter. Know is a solid starter flirting to be a Hall Of Famer....

SGA I heard was having a good start and I thought he was our dark horse selection. They most trust the combination of PGs we have and PG coaching staff....filled with ex PGs.

SGA was my favorite guy in this draft after Mikal Bridges. I think he will be the best PG out of this draft class.

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7/11/2018  5:42 AM
blkexec wrote:
HofstraBBall wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
nixluva wrote:FOLKS WE’VE GOT SOME YOUNG STUDS‼️ The future is now! 🌟😎
This. Haven't been this excited about the Knicks in a long time. Might have been opening night when they beat the Heatles during the 54 win season. What a draft.

Really like Knox. Was hoping the Knicks would have taken Mikal but Knox looks like what a top 10 pick should look like. He is extremely athletic and seems to have loads of confidence.

Has anybody watched Mikal? He still reminds me of a skinny Courtney Lee....Solid role player flirting to be a starter. Know is a solid starter flirting to be a Hall Of Famer....

SGA I heard was having a good start and I thought he was our dark horse selection. They most trust the combination of PGs we have and PG coaching staff....filled with ex PGs.

I think the combination of having three young pgs on the roster plus the possibility of having a shot at Kyrie next off season made drafting another pg a long shot unless they were convinced they were getting a no-brainer future stud.
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7/11/2018  8:06 AM
Welpee wrote:
blkexec wrote:
HofstraBBall wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
nixluva wrote:FOLKS WE’VE GOT SOME YOUNG STUDS‼️ The future is now! 🌟😎
This. Haven't been this excited about the Knicks in a long time. Might have been opening night when they beat the Heatles during the 54 win season. What a draft.

Really like Knox. Was hoping the Knicks would have taken Mikal but Knox looks like what a top 10 pick should look like. He is extremely athletic and seems to have loads of confidence.

Has anybody watched Mikal? He still reminds me of a skinny Courtney Lee....Solid role player flirting to be a starter. Know is a solid starter flirting to be a Hall Of Famer....

SGA I heard was having a good start and I thought he was our dark horse selection. They most trust the combination of PGs we have and PG coaching staff....filled with ex PGs.

I think the combination of having three young pgs on the roster plus the possibility of having a shot at Kyrie next off season made drafting another pg a long shot unless they were convinced they were getting a no-brainer future stud.

i agree with this except i don't think it was a no brainer. SGA is looking good for sure, but I suspect the Knicks felt their current crew plus possibly Kyrie made the selection of a forward more sensible. I have to imagine Porter was on their mind, perhaps others. KK's going head to head on workout must have sealed the deal

I was a skeptic but now am a believer. (wish his release were a bit quicker -- that's where the KD comparisons fall short at the moment, and the P.George comparisons are more on point)

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7/11/2018  6:44 PM
WaltLongmire wrote:
HofstraBBall wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
nixluva wrote:FOLKS WE’VE GOT SOME YOUNG STUDS‼️ The future is now! 🌟😎
This. Haven't been this excited about the Knicks in a long time. Might have been opening night when they beat the Heatles during the 54 win season. What a draft.

Really like Knox. Was hoping the Knicks would have taken Mikal but Knox looks like what a top 10 pick should look like. He is extremely athletic and seems to have loads of confidence.


Not a flashy ball handler at the top of the key...no over-dribbling, but at some point in the next few years, he will be impossible to stop off the dribble if Fizdale uses him in isolation. If he works on his passing, and court awareness when he drives, he will also pick up a ton of assists.

Yeah - thing that jumps out is he will be able to iso off the dribble or the 3-point stance and either simply shoot, get to mid-range or get to the rim (also drawing contact).

He will also learn thru experience and strength to take 1 more dribble to really finish solid rather than hoping for contact --- sometimes fading away into a tough shot.

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7/11/2018  6:46 PM
Crazy thing with Knox is it was very apparent at both Kentucky and first 2 games that he prefers going to his right but last night he went left very nicely/easily 3 or 4 times -- just nice seeing him do that so quickly.
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7/11/2018  6:48 PM
blkexec wrote:
HofstraBBall wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
nixluva wrote:FOLKS WE’VE GOT SOME YOUNG STUDS‼️ The future is now! 🌟😎
This. Haven't been this excited about the Knicks in a long time. Might have been opening night when they beat the Heatles during the 54 win season. What a draft.

Really like Knox. Was hoping the Knicks would have taken Mikal but Knox looks like what a top 10 pick should look like. He is extremely athletic and seems to have loads of confidence.

Has anybody watched Mikal? He still reminds me of a skinny Courtney Lee....Solid role player flirting to be a starter. Know is a solid starter flirting to be a Hall Of Famer....

SGA I heard was having a good start and I thought he was our dark horse selection. They most trust the combination of PGs we have and PG coaching staff....filled with ex PGs.

Think we dodged a big bullet with Mikal and to think PHX gave up both the kid from Texas Tech and an UNPROTECTED pick for Mikal --- ouch.

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7/11/2018  8:42 PM
LivingLegend wrote:
blkexec wrote:
HofstraBBall wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
nixluva wrote:FOLKS WE’VE GOT SOME YOUNG STUDS‼️ The future is now! 🌟😎
This. Haven't been this excited about the Knicks in a long time. Might have been opening night when they beat the Heatles during the 54 win season. What a draft.

Really like Knox. Was hoping the Knicks would have taken Mikal but Knox looks like what a top 10 pick should look like. He is extremely athletic and seems to have loads of confidence.

Has anybody watched Mikal? He still reminds me of a skinny Courtney Lee....Solid role player flirting to be a starter. Know is a solid starter flirting to be a Hall Of Famer....

SGA I heard was having a good start and I thought he was our dark horse selection. They most trust the combination of PGs we have and PG coaching staff....filled with ex PGs.

Think we dodged a big bullet with Mikal and to think PHX gave up both the kid from Texas Tech and an UNPROTECTED pick for Mikal --- ouch.


Mikal looked solid the one game I saw him. I wouldn't say we dodged a bullet, but we definitely got the forward with the highest ceiling.
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7/11/2018  9:56 PM
Mika avg 6 pats in 3 games and has only shot 13 times total....that is a tad worrisome for a 3 year college player.

Another guy Suns May be concerned about is J Jackson (who I absolutely loved last year). Jackson avg 10 pats and 2 boards...shooting 24%.

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7/11/2018  9:58 PM
meloshouldgo wrote:
blkexec wrote:
HofstraBBall wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
nixluva wrote:FOLKS WE’VE GOT SOME YOUNG STUDS‼️ The future is now! 🌟😎
This. Haven't been this excited about the Knicks in a long time. Might have been opening night when they beat the Heatles during the 54 win season. What a draft.

Really like Knox. Was hoping the Knicks would have taken Mikal but Knox looks like what a top 10 pick should look like. He is extremely athletic and seems to have loads of confidence.

Has anybody watched Mikal? He still reminds me of a skinny Courtney Lee....Solid role player flirting to be a starter. Know is a solid starter flirting to be a Hall Of Famer....

SGA I heard was having a good start and I thought he was our dark horse selection. They most trust the combination of PGs we have and PG coaching staff....filled with ex PGs.

SGA was my favorite guy in this draft after Mikal Bridges. I think he will be the best PG out of this draft class.

Shea looks faster/quicker in Summer League vs Kentucky.

Loved the player but feared his lack of quicks —- at this point he appears plenty quick

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7/11/2018  11:42 PM
LivingLegend wrote:
WaltLongmire wrote:
HofstraBBall wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
nixluva wrote:FOLKS WE’VE GOT SOME YOUNG STUDS‼️ The future is now! 🌟😎
This. Haven't been this excited about the Knicks in a long time. Might have been opening night when they beat the Heatles during the 54 win season. What a draft.

Really like Knox. Was hoping the Knicks would have taken Mikal but Knox looks like what a top 10 pick should look like. He is extremely athletic and seems to have loads of confidence.


Not a flashy ball handler at the top of the key...no over-dribbling, but at some point in the next few years, he will be impossible to stop off the dribble if Fizdale uses him in isolation. If he works on his passing, and court awareness when he drives, he will also pick up a ton of assists.

Yeah - thing that jumps out is he will be able to iso off the dribble or the 3-point stance and either simply shoot, get to mid-range or get to the rim (also drawing contact).

He will also learn thru experience and strength to take 1 more dribble to really finish solid rather than hoping for contact --- sometimes fading away into a tough shot.

Yeah... That's a little man's habit....mudiay has that same driving habit or skill.....Always looking for contact and finishing off balance layups after contact.....Its like forcing the ref to call foul, based on how hard you fall and how good are u at selling contact. Harden, before him....Reggie Miller.....Ginobli....Ray Allen with the leg kick. Melo with his up and under spin move...

What's interesting is only the super stars get the calls. Knox is a rookie and already developed the most underrated skill in basketball....selling a foul. That's where the melo comparisons come from for me.....plus he gets most of his points from the free throw line and he can carry a team offensively....I saw that potential when we drafted him... he did this in spurts in college.

Just imagine when he improves his crossovers and hesitations from the 3 pt line.....Hes coming down the lane looking to obliterate the rim and anybody down there. Then he has the frame to get bigger...similar to lebron size when he turns mid 20s.....scary

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7/12/2018  4:00 AM
Just for comparison, here's what KP looked like in his first summer league- I'd completely forgotten how he did. Only averaged 10.8 pts.

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blkexec wrote:
HofstraBBall wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
nixluva wrote:FOLKS WE’VE GOT SOME YOUNG STUDS‼️ The future is now! 🌟😎
This. Haven't been this excited about the Knicks in a long time. Might have been opening night when they beat the Heatles during the 54 win season. What a draft.

Really like Knox. Was hoping the Knicks would have taken Mikal but Knox looks like what a top 10 pick should look like. He is extremely athletic and seems to have loads of confidence.

Has anybody watched Mikal? He still reminds me of a skinny Courtney Lee....Solid role player flirting to be a starter. Know is a solid starter flirting to be a Hall Of Famer....

SGA I heard was having a good start and I thought he was our dark horse selection. They most trust the combination of PGs we have and PG coaching staff....filled with ex PGs.

SGA is indeed looking good- I liked the idea of drafting him, but I'm happy with Knox:

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7/12/2018  2:27 PM
smackeddog wrote:Just for comparison, here's what KP looked like in his first summer league- I'd completely forgotten how he did. Only averaged 10.8 pts.

We took him out early and monitored his minutes, if I recall.

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