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dacash
Posts: 21141 Alba Posts: 2 Joined: 10/17/2006 Member: #1179 |
5/9/2018 3:50 PM
He told jalen rose on a show he wants teams to fear coming to the garden to play lol . I hope he can in still that
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knicks1248
Posts: 42059 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 2/3/2004 Member: #582 |
5/9/2018 4:49 PM
The #1 defense(jazz & spurs) will not beat the #1 offense that's just the era of basketball we are in right now, So that's really not the best course of action.
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martin
Posts: 68680 Alba Posts: 108 Joined: 7/24/2001 Member: #2 USA |
5/9/2018 5:52 PM
knicks1248 wrote:The #1 defense(jazz & spurs) will not beat the #1 offense that's just the era of basketball we are in right now, So that's really not the best course of action. Don't agree with you. But what is YOUR best course of action? Official sponsor of the PURE KNICKS LOVE Program
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SupremeCommander
Posts: 33785 Alba Posts: 35 Joined: 4/28/2006 Member: #1127 |
5/9/2018 6:12 PM LAST EDITED: 5/9/2018 6:12 PM
martin wrote:knicks1248 wrote:The #1 defense(jazz & spurs) will not beat the #1 offense that's just the era of basketball we are in right now, So that's really not the best course of action. +1 on a net basis, Houston is the #1 defense in the NBA. Toronto was #2. And GSW is #3. I know that Toronto just got swept but I'd argue they exceeded expectations. I think SAS and Utah exceeded expectations as well. Sign me up for defense. Sambakick wrote:
Gives a whole new meaning to "Jazz Hands"
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newyorknewyork
Posts: 29863 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 1/16/2004 Member: #541 |
5/9/2018 6:50 PM
SupremeCommander wrote:martin wrote:knicks1248 wrote:The #1 defense(jazz & spurs) will not beat the #1 offense that's just the era of basketball we are in right now, So that's really not the best course of action. The Warriors are beyond a #1 offense so have to keep that in perspective. If a defensive team collected 4-5 all nba defensive players then that would be a more even comparison. Not only that but both the Spurs and Utah and Toronto made the playoffs with decent seeding. So if the Knicks eventually become a regular playoff team with decent seeding due to quality defense yr in and yr out. Wouldn't that lead to the continuity that ppl have been asking for out of the Knicks? https://vote.nba.com/en Vote for your Knicks.
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Jmpasq
Posts: 25243 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 4/10/2012 Member: #4182 |
5/9/2018 8:59 PM
martin wrote:knicks1248 wrote:The #1 defense(jazz & spurs) will not beat the #1 offense that's just the era of basketball we are in right now, So that's really not the best course of action. I think its the best way to become competitive, especially with Porzingis and Frank. We are basically one wing away from being a top 10 defensive team. However this team is still a long way away from being a legit contender Check out My NFL Draft Prospect Videos at Youtube User Pages Jmpasq,JPdraftjedi,Jmpasqdraftjedi. www.Draftbreakdown.com
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knicks1248
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5/9/2018 9:23 PM
martin wrote:knicks1248 wrote:The #1 defense(jazz & spurs) will not beat the #1 offense that's just the era of basketball we are in right now, So that's really not the best course of action. You have to be tops in the league on both ends, but more so the offense. The speed, spacing, and shooting of today's game, the whole object is to score before the other team can set up their defense. MDA's philosophy... Kerr admitted the other day The Warriors have won two championships in the last three years and put together one of the greatest runs in NBA history by playing small and prioritizing shooting and ball movement. It’s the evolution of a style pioneered by Rockets coach Mike D’Antoni during his mid-2000s run with the Phoenix Suns. Before the Warriors’ Game 4 against the New Orleans Pelicans on Sunday, head coach Steve Kerr reflected on D’Antoni’s influence on his team and on the modern game Prioritizing to me says what their focus is on Tweet was deleted or there was problem with the URL: ES
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newyorknewyork
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5/9/2018 10:07 PM
What matters is your net difference. If you can score 115 a game the you are allowed to give up 110. If you score 100 then you are allowed to give up 95. If you put up a 5 point differential then you are probably a top 5 team in the NBA.
So if you collect enough talent to go with a system that puts up 115 pts then sure. But odds are you don't have that. https://vote.nba.com/en Vote for your Knicks.
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arkrud
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5/9/2018 10:54 PM LAST EDITED: 5/9/2018 10:54 PM
knicks1248 wrote:martin wrote:knicks1248 wrote:The #1 defense(jazz & spurs) will not beat the #1 offense that's just the era of basketball we are in right now, So that's really not the best course of action. Effectiveness is the key. "There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy." Hamlet
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knickstorrents
Posts: 21121 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 1/23/2010 Member: #3050 Hong Kong |
5/10/2018 12:38 AM LAST EDITED: 5/10/2018 1:40 AM
arkrud wrote:Effectiveness is the key. Absolutely! The advantage we have is our 2 cornerstones have high IQ and are decent defenders (KP and Frank - THJ is just a warm body that is probably a slight net negative). We need to fill out the rest of the roster with these types of players. ISO ball will not work anymore (despite how good Harden and Chris Paul are at it). It starts with shooting high percentages to give your defense time to get set against the opposing team. And then ends with good defense so that you can start a fast break on the other end from a miss. Rose is not the answer.
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awe1028
Posts: 20199 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 7/4/2009 Member: #2780 |
5/10/2018 5:47 AM
knicks1248 wrote:The #1 defense(jazz & spurs) will not beat the #1 offense that's just the era of basketball we are in right now, So that's really not the best course of action. This is nonsense. the Jazz and Spurs may have the #1 defenses but their defense is not elite.The type of defense the Knicks should be building and what Fizdale is referring to is a truly elite defense The following clips shows exactly what elite defense looks like even in this era of basketball as you describe it. Clip #1 Knicks vs Raptors 3rd quarter: 41 - 10 including 28 - 0 run Clip #2 Frank vs Kyrie Irving Keep in mind this is against one of the best offensive players in the game and when Frank put that defense on him he had Kyrie stumbling around like a drunken These 2 clips is just a sample of what a truly elite defense can do to on offense. Imagine a collection of elite defenders on the Knicks including: Frank I would put this collection of defenders and defense against any offense in the NBA including Golden State's and I like my chances. |
Nalod
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5/10/2018 8:13 AM
I heard an iterview that Fiz prescribes to the old school philosophy:
“You score more points than your opponent, you will 100% of the time by playing good defense and offense”. I made that up. But, you take that and you sound brilliant!! |
knicks1248
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5/10/2018 8:29 AM
arkrud wrote:knicks1248 wrote:martin wrote:knicks1248 wrote:The #1 defense(jazz & spurs) will not beat the #1 offense that's just the era of basketball we are in right now, So that's really not the best course of action. It takes a long time when you have the wrong people handling things. Houston has one player they drafted clint capela, the rest are from trades, MDA has been there 3 yrs, and they are conteneders. Not to mention fast pace MDA system is now one of the slowest, Both paul and Harden are half court players ES
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Knixkik
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5/10/2018 9:08 AM
Jmpasq wrote:martin wrote:knicks1248 wrote:The #1 defense(jazz & spurs) will not beat the #1 offense that's just the era of basketball we are in right now, So that's really not the best course of action. I think drafted Mikal Bridges and having KP, Frank, and Bridges in the lineup make us a top 5 defensive team very soon. Having guys like Hardaway and Burke will help take the offensive pressure off of KP, but it will be important to add another big time scoring forward. Something like KP, Tabias Harris, Bridges, Hardaway, and Ntilikina with Burke at 6th man is something that can work in today's game. Positionless offense team and top 5 defensive team. How far a team like that goes in the playoffs ultimately depends on Bridges and Frank development. |
knicks1248
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5/10/2018 10:27 AM
Knixkik wrote:Jmpasq wrote:martin wrote:knicks1248 wrote:The #1 defense(jazz & spurs) will not beat the #1 offense that's just the era of basketball we are in right now, So that's really not the best course of action. burke is our starting PG, that's a given ES
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Nalod
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5/10/2018 10:45 AM
knicks1248 wrote:arkrud wrote:knicks1248 wrote:martin wrote:knicks1248 wrote:The #1 defense(jazz & spurs) will not beat the #1 offense that's just the era of basketball we are in right now, So that's really not the best course of action. Your no doubt a "coach can make a difference" kind of guy. |
Knixkik
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5/10/2018 11:25 AM
knicks1248 wrote:Knixkik wrote:Jmpasq wrote:martin wrote:knicks1248 wrote:The #1 defense(jazz & spurs) will not beat the #1 offense that's just the era of basketball we are in right now, So that's really not the best course of action. Next year most likely, but long-term i think Frank starts and Burke is 6th man. |
Cartman718
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5/10/2018 12:23 PM
Knixkik wrote:knicks1248 wrote:Knixkik wrote:Jmpasq wrote:martin wrote:knicks1248 wrote:The #1 defense(jazz & spurs) will not beat the #1 offense that's just the era of basketball we are in right now, So that's really not the best course of action. i doubt he starts for any long period honestly. defensive liability Nixluva is posting triangle screen grabs, even when nobody asks - Fishmike. LOL
So are we going to reference that thread like the bible now? "The thread of Wroten Page 14 post 9" - EnySpree
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Knixkik
Posts: 34908 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 7/24/2001 Member: #11 USA |
5/10/2018 12:39 PM
Cartman718 wrote:Knixkik wrote:knicks1248 wrote:Knixkik wrote:Jmpasq wrote:martin wrote:knicks1248 wrote:The #1 defense(jazz & spurs) will not beat the #1 offense that's just the era of basketball we are in right now, So that's really not the best course of action. I bet Burke, Frank, and Hardaway all start together next year. Burke is a defensive liability, but having Frank next to him helps. |