martin wrote:

nykshaknbake wrote:Phil was an understandable hire, given his success as a coach. Terrible GM. Porzibgis was a nice pick, but honestly he was generally ranked where he went. You, the UK reader could have made that pick, and many here would have. It was also the #4 pick, not exactly a bad spot to be picking. He msde terribke coaching decisions, pissed off the unicorn, generally made bad signings. Slept when he was supposed to be scouting. Not trading draft picks is great. Guess what its what every GM outside of a few contenders always does. He thought he had a playoff team each year and ended up the most losing coach in NYK history, by accident! So roster construction was nit anything he did welk. At least Philly was trying to lose...

I have never bought that logic.

Frank the Tank was a senior coming off a great tourney and a safe pick and Winslow was there and reportedly Boston wanted him so badly they were willing to offer multiple picks for him to move up; two guys projected to move into a team and contribute right away. Especially with Melo on board, those were 2 picks that would have fit his timeline.

KP, Hezonja, Mudiay were all overseas "mystery" picks, and if you didn't have the proper scouting as an organization, you were going to make a mistake.

OK4 was supposed to be the next Tim Duncan (light) and a can't miss talent. Not sure Russell was that same way but he must of shown a lot during interviews. Teams blew it with those picks.

KP was high risk/high reward... but no brainer at #4? As much as Russell or OK4 at #2 or #3?

KP has panned out, and lots of credit to the player and the people around him.

That was my POV as well. Honestly didnt have a reaction either way when his name was called. Not cause I wanted them to draft Russell. Its precisely because he was a high risk/reward player who spent his time coming off the bench in Europe. We werent really going to see what we had until KP started playing against NBA talent.

martin wrote:

nykshaknbake wrote:Phil was an understandable hire, given his success as a coach. Terrible GM. Porzibgis was a nice pick, but honestly he was generally ranked where he went. You, the UK reader could have made that pick, and many here would have. It was also the #4 pick, not exactly a bad spot to be picking. He msde terribke coaching decisions, pissed off the unicorn, generally made bad signings. Slept when he was supposed to be scouting. Not trading draft picks is great. Guess what its what every GM outside of a few contenders always does. He thought he had a playoff team each year and ended up the most losing coach in NYK history, by accident! So roster construction was nit anything he did welk. At least Philly was trying to lose...

I have never bought that logic.

Frank the Tank was a senior coming off a great tourney and a safe pick and Winslow was there and reportedly Boston wanted him so badly they were willing to offer multiple picks for him to move up; two guys projected to move into a team and contribute right away. Especially with Melo on board, those were 2 picks that would have fit his timeline.

KP, Hezonja, Mudiay were all overseas "mystery" picks, and if you didn't have the proper scouting as an organization, you were going to make a mistake.

OK4 was supposed to be the next Tim Duncan (light) and a can't miss talent. Not sure Russell was that same way but he must of shown a lot during interviews. Teams blew it with those picks.

KP was high risk/high reward... but no brainer at #4? As much as Russell or OK4 at #2 or #3?

KP has panned out, and lots of credit to the player and the people around him.

martin wrote:

nykshaknbake wrote:Phil was an understandable hire, given his success as a coach. Terrible GM. Porzibgis was a nice pick, but honestly he was generally ranked where he went. You, the UK reader could have made that pick, and many here would have. It was also the #4 pick, not exactly a bad spot to be picking. He msde terribke coaching decisions, pissed off the unicorn, generally made bad signings. Slept when he was supposed to be scouting. Not trading draft picks is great. Guess what its what every GM outside of a few contenders always does. He thought he had a playoff team each year and ended up the most losing coach in NYK history, by accident! So roster construction was nit anything he did welk. At least Philly was trying to lose...

I have never bought that logic.

Frank the Tank was a senior coming off a great tourney and a safe pick and Winslow was there and reportedly Boston wanted him so badly they were willing to offer multiple picks for him to move up; two guys projected to move into a team and contribute right away. Especially with Melo on board, those were 2 picks that would have fit his timeline.

KP, Hezonja, Mudiay were all overseas "mystery" picks, and if you didn't have the proper scouting as an organization, you were going to make a mistake.

OK4 was supposed to be the next Tim Duncan (light) and a can't miss talent. Not sure Russell was that same way but he must of shown a lot during interviews. Teams blew it with those picks.

KP was high risk/high reward... but no brainer at #4? As much as Russell or OK4 at #2 or #3?

KP has panned out, and lots of credit to the player and the people around him.

Most mock drafts had KP as a top 6 pick ahead of Frank the Tank...Right before the draft, there were reports that the Lakers were strongly considering him at 2....No way KP would have slipped past the Magic at 5 had the Knicks passed.