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6/7/2018  2:12 PM
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GustavBahler wrote:Cavs playing like they still cant believe they lost Game 1 the way they did. Body language sucks. If the Cavs lose, I will be very surprised if they dont pick Young or Sexton. They desperately need a shot of adrenaline.

The Cavs are simply out classed. One team is a well oiled machine the other is a make shift of parts. There is a difference when everyone looks for a teammate to pass to, as opposed to one looking for teammates to pass to. How many open looks did Draymond give up just to pass.

he better give it up. man is a born bricklayer.

durant bails out steph yet again. most pampered overrated star in the league imo. would have zero titles without iguodala and durant.

and how big a favor did lue do rodney hood last night? now he goes into rfa with people remembering this game instead of the one where he refused to play.

Two time MVP Steph Curry does have a chip without Durant. Iggy has been part of that team for some time and was one of the vets that helped mold the youngin's.
Durant inclusion was awful for the rest of the league.
Cav's got hosed in game one and Lebron, like wilt can carry a team far but often enough there is a cruel reality the Cav's call GSW. Wilt had the Celtics.
Knicks had the Bulls.
Before we get all too sad take solace that Lakers and Jerry west were like 1-8 in his 9 trips to the finals. They were 1-3 vs. the knicks.
Celtics messed Lakers up bad in that Era.
GSW are a very good team!!!

imo curry was getting owned that series by of all people delladova. iggy totally bailed him out and was the key to the series win. in fact as i recall he was the finals mvp.

Curry was battling injuries all that series. If the league didn’t bushwhack GSW your looking at 4 in a row. The league gave LeBron a token championship as a thank you.

what do you see as the league's bushwhack?

One of the main reason Durant joined GSW was more because the NBA has a way of screwing players and teams over. He wasn’t going to have any of it. Bushwhacked is the Knicks vs Heat back in the day. Some ill advised suspension that costs a team an opportunity. In Draymond’s case that phantom punch throw at LBJ absolutely a joke.

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6/7/2018  2:28 PM
Vmart wrote:
Marv wrote:
Vmart wrote:
Marv wrote:
Nalod wrote:
Marv wrote:
Vmart wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:Cavs playing like they still cant believe they lost Game 1 the way they did. Body language sucks. If the Cavs lose, I will be very surprised if they dont pick Young or Sexton. They desperately need a shot of adrenaline.

The Cavs are simply out classed. One team is a well oiled machine the other is a make shift of parts. There is a difference when everyone looks for a teammate to pass to, as opposed to one looking for teammates to pass to. How many open looks did Draymond give up just to pass.

he better give it up. man is a born bricklayer.

durant bails out steph yet again. most pampered overrated star in the league imo. would have zero titles without iguodala and durant.

and how big a favor did lue do rodney hood last night? now he goes into rfa with people remembering this game instead of the one where he refused to play.

Two time MVP Steph Curry does have a chip without Durant. Iggy has been part of that team for some time and was one of the vets that helped mold the youngin's.
Durant inclusion was awful for the rest of the league.
Cav's got hosed in game one and Lebron, like wilt can carry a team far but often enough there is a cruel reality the Cav's call GSW. Wilt had the Celtics.
Knicks had the Bulls.
Before we get all too sad take solace that Lakers and Jerry west were like 1-8 in his 9 trips to the finals. They were 1-3 vs. the knicks.
Celtics messed Lakers up bad in that Era.
GSW are a very good team!!!

imo curry was getting owned that series by of all people delladova. iggy totally bailed him out and was the key to the series win. in fact as i recall he was the finals mvp.

Curry was battling injuries all that series. If the league didn’t bushwhack GSW your looking at 4 in a row. The league gave LeBron a token championship as a thank you.

what do you see as the league's bushwhack?

One of the main reason Durant joined GSW was more because the NBA has a way of screwing players and teams over. He wasn’t going to have any of it. Bushwhacked is the Knicks vs Heat back in the day. Some ill advised suspension that costs a team an opportunity. In Draymond’s case that phantom punch throw at LBJ absolutely a joke.

yea i get that perspective tho i didn't see it that way. draymond thought he could take swings at guys' nuts to intimidate their team and was willing to take the risk of getting bounced/suspended for it. you decide to do that and you hand over your fate to the refs/league - they're gonna be justified at any time in lowering the boom. you don't get to take that swing AND decide what action the refs/league decide to take in response to it.

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6/7/2018  6:23 PM
Vmart wrote:One of the main reason Durant joined GSW was more because the NBA has a way of screwing players and teams over. He wasn’t going to have any of it. Bushwhacked is the Knicks vs Heat back in the day. Some ill advised suspension that costs a team an opportunity. In Draymond’s case that phantom punch throw at LBJ absolutely a joke.

True, but I still believe that Durant's main reason to join the Warriors was because he knew they could become almost unstoppable. The Warriors had already broken the best win-loss record of all time with Curry, Thompson and Green leading the way. Add Durant and good luck stopping that young group of players for the foreseeable future. Also, joining a team with three fellow all stars takes so much pressure off him because teams can no longer focus on him because Curry, Thompson and Green can hurt them. Really it was a no brainer for him to join the Warriors because it almost guaranteed him at least one ring if not many as long as they keep that quartet around and they stay healthy. At the time I viewed it as a sellout move for him joining an already elite team and I still feel that way. I guess that's a bit of jealously slipping but I would respect and like Durant more had he joined another team and become the man for them and led them to a title rather than hopped on the Warriors bandwagon to get an easier shot at a ring or rings.

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6/7/2018  8:54 PM    LAST EDITED: 6/7/2018  8:56 PM
Mike1989 wrote:
Vmart wrote:One of the main reason Durant joined GSW was more because the NBA has a way of screwing players and teams over. He wasn’t going to have any of it. Bushwhacked is the Knicks vs Heat back in the day. Some ill advised suspension that costs a team an opportunity. In Draymond’s case that phantom punch throw at LBJ absolutely a joke.

True, but I still believe that Durant's main reason to join the Warriors was because he knew they could become almost unstoppable. The Warriors had already broken the best win-loss record of all time with Curry, Thompson and Green leading the way. Add Durant and good luck stopping that young group of players for the foreseeable future. Also, joining a team with three fellow all stars takes so much pressure off him because teams can no longer focus on him because Curry, Thompson and Green can hurt them. Really it was a no brainer for him to join the Warriors because it almost guaranteed him at least one ring if not many as long as they keep that quartet around and they stay healthy. At the time I viewed it as a sellout move for him joining an already elite team and I still feel that way. I guess that's a bit of jealously slipping but I would respect and like Durant more had he joined another team and become the man for them and led them to a title rather than hopped on the Warriors bandwagon to get an easier shot at a ring or rings.

Sell out. You guys need to stop using such language. This has happened because of LeBron and only because of LeBron. First Miami and again back to Cleveland. LeBron is the first and only sellout. If Knicks draw an FA in the future because they become good does that mean anyone who comes over is a sellout. Was Allan Houston a sellout for joining a good team. Was Grant Hill a sellout for joining g the Magic back in the day.

There is a learning lesson in this regardless if Durant went to GSW it the brand of Basketball that should be enjoyed.

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6/8/2018  3:59 AM
Vmart wrote:
Mike1989 wrote:
Vmart wrote:One of the main reason Durant joined GSW was more because the NBA has a way of screwing players and teams over. He wasn’t going to have any of it. Bushwhacked is the Knicks vs Heat back in the day. Some ill advised suspension that costs a team an opportunity. In Draymond’s case that phantom punch throw at LBJ absolutely a joke.

True, but I still believe that Durant's main reason to join the Warriors was because he knew they could become almost unstoppable. The Warriors had already broken the best win-loss record of all time with Curry, Thompson and Green leading the way. Add Durant and good luck stopping that young group of players for the foreseeable future. Also, joining a team with three fellow all stars takes so much pressure off him because teams can no longer focus on him because Curry, Thompson and Green can hurt them. Really it was a no brainer for him to join the Warriors because it almost guaranteed him at least one ring if not many as long as they keep that quartet around and they stay healthy. At the time I viewed it as a sellout move for him joining an already elite team and I still feel that way. I guess that's a bit of jealously slipping but I would respect and like Durant more had he joined another team and become the man for them and led them to a title rather than hopped on the Warriors bandwagon to get an easier shot at a ring or rings.

Sell out. You guys need to stop using such language. This has happened because of LeBron and only because of LeBron. First Miami and again back to Cleveland. LeBron is the first and only sellout. If Knicks draw an FA in the future because they become good does that mean anyone who comes over is a sellout. Was Allan Houston a sellout for joining a good team. Was Grant Hill a sellout for joining g the Magic back in the day.

There is a learning lesson in this regardless if Durant went to GSW it the brand of Basketball that should be enjoyed.

Correct me if I'm wrong but Houston and Hill didn't join a team coming off the best win-loss regular season victory of all time, a team that had played two consecutive NBA finals winning one and losing one, and joining an already established trio of all stars.

They did join good teams but not established title teams like Durant did with the Warriors. That's why some view Durant negatively after his move because rather than stick with OKC and try to win (They bottled it in the play offs against the Warriors) or go to a team and be the main guy, he joined the best team in the league to be a piece of the puzzle.

I don't blame him for it, but LeBron had no ring when he joined Miami, nor did Bosh. Wade had a ring. So sure LeBron did leave Cleveland for Miami which some see as a sell out, but he learned to win in Miami going 2-2 in the NBA finals. Then returned to Cleveland a champion and has delivered on title and other finals appearances to them. He never joined a team to be a piece, he joined Miami and became the piece. Durant didn't.

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6/8/2018  4:01 AM
Marv wrote:what do you see as the league's bushwhack?


In a series that's cleanly called by the refs, no one can beat the Warriors but the Warriors.

They can play any style of ball. Up temp, SSOL, Princeton, Triangle, Four Out, half court, Showtime, Nellieball, they are just extremely versatile all over the court. They have two players in Durant and Green who can space the floor and defend the rim while patrolling the perimeter. Having just one guy on your team who can do that is rare, but two is simply insane. Klay Thompson is a lock down defender who is underrated in terms of just being a pure stopper. A lot of their bench guys just play some seriously nasty high IQ type ball. Livingston is actually one of the highest BBIQ guys in the league. Looney and Bell have emerged for them in strong roles.

In a series where the refs are jobbing them, as long as the Warriors

A) Hit the three ball at their normal rate ( which is an elite rate), no one can stop them. You can't phantom call against a three point shot.

B) Draymond Green stays healthy and out of suspension trouble

They are unstoppable.

Green is the only truly indispensable guy because he runs the defense.

You know how you beat the Warriors?

1) You have to shoot against them at an elite rate
2) You need multiple Warriors to have an off game at the same time. 2-3 of them
3) You need the refs to look the other way as you just maul Curry openly. I mean just batter him. He can't nail you from long range, plus range, even while covered, if he's face down on the court.

You literally have to turn it into a boxing match for any other team to have a chance.

Nike has spent close to a billion dollars combined on LBJ and Durant. Think about that. A billion dollars. You think they don't want a return on their investment?

LBJ owes two rings to Spolestra's coaching, Bosh's shift in terms of skill set and Birdman. He owes his third to Nike and the refs.

Watching some of you parrot the Nike narrative is actually sort of sad but predictable.

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6/8/2018  6:51 AM
TripleThreat wrote:
Marv wrote:what do you see as the league's bushwhack?


In a series that's cleanly called by the refs, no one can beat the Warriors but the Warriors.

They can play any style of ball. Up temp, SSOL, Princeton, Triangle, Four Out, half court, Showtime, Nellieball, they are just extremely versatile all over the court. They have two players in Durant and Green who can space the floor and defend the rim while patrolling the perimeter. Having just one guy on your team who can do that is rare, but two is simply insane. Klay Thompson is a lock down defender who is underrated in terms of just being a pure stopper. A lot of their bench guys just play some seriously nasty high IQ type ball. Livingston is actually one of the highest BBIQ guys in the league. Looney and Bell have emerged for them in strong roles.

In a series where the refs are jobbing them, as long as the Warriors

A) Hit the three ball at their normal rate ( which is an elite rate), no one can stop them. You can't phantom call against a three point shot.

B) Draymond Green stays healthy and out of suspension trouble

They are unstoppable.

Green is the only truly indispensable guy because he runs the defense.

You know how you beat the Warriors?

1) You have to shoot against them at an elite rate
2) You need multiple Warriors to have an off game at the same time. 2-3 of them
3) You need the refs to look the other way as you just maul Curry openly. I mean just batter him. He can't nail you from long range, plus range, even while covered, if he's face down on the court.

You literally have to turn it into a boxing match for any other team to have a chance.

Nike has spent close to a billion dollars combined on LBJ and Durant. Think about that. A billion dollars. You think they don't want a return on their investment?

LBJ owes two rings to Spolestra's coaching, Bosh's shift in terms of skill set and Birdman. He owes his third to Nike and the refs.

Watching some of you parrot the Nike narrative is actually sort of sad but predictable.

houston had them down 3-2 and appeared as a very solid candidate to knock them off if chris paul hadn’t gotten hurt. even without him they were beating them until they went insane with 3-point chucking. how do you account for that?

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6/8/2018  7:14 AM
Harden is with adidas.
Curry with Under Armor.
wait, this complicates things!
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6/8/2018  10:58 AM
Mike1989 wrote:
Vmart wrote:
Mike1989 wrote:
Vmart wrote:One of the main reason Durant joined GSW was more because the NBA has a way of screwing players and teams over. He wasn’t going to have any of it. Bushwhacked is the Knicks vs Heat back in the day. Some ill advised suspension that costs a team an opportunity. In Draymond’s case that phantom punch throw at LBJ absolutely a joke.

True, but I still believe that Durant's main reason to join the Warriors was because he knew they could become almost unstoppable. The Warriors had already broken the best win-loss record of all time with Curry, Thompson and Green leading the way. Add Durant and good luck stopping that young group of players for the foreseeable future. Also, joining a team with three fellow all stars takes so much pressure off him because teams can no longer focus on him because Curry, Thompson and Green can hurt them. Really it was a no brainer for him to join the Warriors because it almost guaranteed him at least one ring if not many as long as they keep that quartet around and they stay healthy. At the time I viewed it as a sellout move for him joining an already elite team and I still feel that way. I guess that's a bit of jealously slipping but I would respect and like Durant more had he joined another team and become the man for them and led them to a title rather than hopped on the Warriors bandwagon to get an easier shot at a ring or rings.

Sell out. You guys need to stop using such language. This has happened because of LeBron and only because of LeBron. First Miami and again back to Cleveland. LeBron is the first and only sellout. If Knicks draw an FA in the future because they become good does that mean anyone who comes over is a sellout. Was Allan Houston a sellout for joining a good team. Was Grant Hill a sellout for joining g the Magic back in the day.

There is a learning lesson in this regardless if Durant went to GSW it the brand of Basketball that should be enjoyed.

Correct me if I'm wrong but Houston and Hill didn't join a team coming off the best win-loss regular season victory of all time, a team that had played two consecutive NBA finals winning one and losing one, and joining an already established trio of all stars.

They did join good teams but not established title teams like Durant did with the Warriors. That's why some view Durant negatively after his move because rather than stick with OKC and try to win (They bottled it in the play offs against the Warriors) or go to a team and be the main guy, he joined the best team in the league to be a piece of the puzzle.

I don't blame him for it, but LeBron had no ring when he joined Miami, nor did Bosh. Wade had a ring. So sure LeBron did leave Cleveland for Miami which some see as a sell out, but he learned to win in Miami going 2-2 in the NBA finals. Then returned to Cleveland a champion and has delivered on title and other finals appearances to them. He never joined a team to be a piece, he joined Miami and became the piece. Durant didn't.

They may of had the best record but they weren’t the champions because the league screwed them over. Durant joining the GSW as a piece say a lot about him wanting to put his game and stats on the back burner to win which I think is amazing on his part. As for LeBron joining Miami it was to create a super team so he could win not one not two you know the rest. Now that he is getting beat by what he started super team. I don’t see what is wrong with anything Durant did. Matter of fact I love what he did. It’s like Karma coming back and slapping LeBron in the face. I find it funny how LeBron left Miami for Cleveland in the pretense of coming back home. When in reality Cleveland was set up with a firsts pick a star player in Kyrie. It was back in Cleveland after talent was replenished there. You honestly think he would have gone back to Cleveland had Kyrie and a number one overall pick wasn’t there in MHO he wouldn’t have considered going back to Cleveland. Watch how he runs to Houston after the season if he isn’t able to replenish the talent in Cleveland.

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6/9/2018  1:29 AM
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6/9/2018  2:26 AM
meloshouldgo wrote:GS beats Cle, said this would happen, I did.

A shame the Rockets couldn't beat the Warriors, would have made for a more interesting finals.

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6/9/2018  9:44 AM
No shame on LEbron for carrying another team to the finals.
Shame for breaking his hand. Should have hit JR smith instead of the whiteboard.
Might have felt better and done some good.
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6/9/2018  10:12 AM
smackeddog wrote:
meloshouldgo wrote:GS beats Cle, said this would happen, I did.

A shame the Rockets couldn't beat the Warriors, would have made for a more interesting finals.

What is the shame in the best team winning. If you wanted a series you could have stopped watching after Warriors-Rocket series. We all knew that the disparity between the east and west is huge. Watching the Cavs struggle against Pacers and Celtics was telling on how bad the east was.

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6/9/2018  10:46 AM
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6/9/2018  11:15 AM
Vmart wrote:
smackeddog wrote:
meloshouldgo wrote:GS beats Cle, said this would happen, I did.

A shame the Rockets couldn't beat the Warriors, would have made for a more interesting finals.

What is the shame in the best team winning. If you wanted a series you could have stopped watching after Warriors-Rocket series. We all knew that the disparity between the east and west is huge. Watching the Cavs struggle against Pacers and Celtics was telling on how bad the east was.

That's the thing, the Pacers were pretty close to taking out the Cave as well. Houston probably won't be able to keep this tan very long. CP3 is getting old, Harden doesn't real care about anything but being Harden. If guts like Ariza etc. get hurt they are dead. GSW can kill you with two of their best players down on any given night.

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6/9/2018  11:36 AM
meloshouldgo wrote:
Vmart wrote:
smackeddog wrote:
meloshouldgo wrote:GS beats Cle, said this would happen, I did.

A shame the Rockets couldn't beat the Warriors, would have made for a more interesting finals.

What is the shame in the best team winning. If you wanted a series you could have stopped watching after Warriors-Rocket series. We all knew that the disparity between the east and west is huge. Watching the Cavs struggle against Pacers and Celtics was telling on how bad the east was.

That's the thing, the Pacers were pretty close to taking out the Cave as well. Houston probably won't be able to keep this tan very long. CP3 is getting old, Harden doesn't real care about anything but being Harden. If guts like Ariza etc. get hurt they are dead. GSW can kill you with two of their best players down on any given night.

I think we tend to forget how hard GSW plays on the defensive side of the ball. We tend to take that for granted. That game 3 was indicative of how they continued to work on the defensive side even when Steph and Klay were off.

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6/9/2018  12:06 PM
Vmart wrote:
meloshouldgo wrote:
Vmart wrote:
smackeddog wrote:
meloshouldgo wrote:GS beats Cle, said this would happen, I did.

A shame the Rockets couldn't beat the Warriors, would have made for a more interesting finals.

What is the shame in the best team winning. If you wanted a series you could have stopped watching after Warriors-Rocket series. We all knew that the disparity between the east and west is huge. Watching the Cavs struggle against Pacers and Celtics was telling on how bad the east was.

That's the thing, the Pacers were pretty close to taking out the Cave as well. Houston probably won't be able to keep this tan very long. CP3 is getting old, Harden doesn't real care about anything but being Harden. If guts like Ariza etc. get hurt they are dead. GSW can kill you with two of their best players down on any given night.

I think we tend to forget how hard GSW plays on the defensive side of the ball. We tend to take that for granted. That game 3 was indicative of how they continued to work on the defensive side even when Steph and Klay were off.

You are right. They were a little complacent in the Houston series until it really counted. It sounds like Kerr is coming back. Rumors are that Klay gives them a discount. I think they will look for another player that might be able to slide into Iggy's role some of the time. Barring injuries, they should win at least two more championships.
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6/9/2018  1:29 PM
David West: Public has ‘no clue’ about Warriors’ behind-the-scenes issues

NBC SportsJune 9, 2018

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/david-west-public-no-clue-120005884.html

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6/10/2018  2:40 AM
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6/15/2018  1:21 PM
LeBron James briefly went to Miami before the start of the NBA Finals, meeting up with Dwyane Wade and Udonis Haslem.

"Right before they started the Finals against Golden State, I spent some time with 'Bron," Haslem said. "He was in Miami. Me, him and Dwyane got together and we spent some time together and we just chopped it up and we just talked."

The Cavaliers defeated the Celtics in Boston in Game 7 of the Eastern Conference Finals on Sunday, May 27th before The Finals began on Thursday, May 31st.

"Obviously, he was getting ready for the NBA Finals," Haslem said. "But there are great pieces here and we all know the city loves him and we all know what he’s capable of doing.

"I'm sure the organization and I would love to have him. But, as a friend, once again, I support LeBron with whatever decision he makes. So we’ll see."


oh hey doc can you please refill my hgh subscription?

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