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Tank thread: Dirk's possible last game at the garden
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EnySpree
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3/13/2018  9:49 AM
I actually might try to go to this game tonight... just really dawned on me that this would be last chance to see Dirk play live
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BRIGGS
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3/13/2018  11:42 AM
PLEASE LOSE THIS GAME!
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3/13/2018  11:53 AM
BRIGGS wrote:PLEASE LOSE THIS GAME!

Yes this is a must lose game!

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3/13/2018  1:36 PM
EnySpree wrote:I actually might try to go to this game tonight... just really dawned on me that this would be last chance to see Dirk play live
Im not sure this would count!
newyorknewyork
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3/13/2018  1:52 PM
I bought tickets for this thing a while back for that Frank vs Smith matchup.
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3/13/2018  2:00 PM
fitzfarm wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:PLEASE LOSE THIS GAME!

Yes this is a must lose game!

must continue to develop our youngsters in a losing culture, who wants to see the young guys playing well and winning. That makes zero sense right?...smh

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3/13/2018  2:02 PM
newyorknewyork wrote:I bought tickets for this thing a while back for that Frank vs Smith matchup.

If they're both playing SG, it will be, heh heh.

That would be great. Hopefully Frank showing he can get to the rim as well. Im sure he doesnt want DSJ to have all the fun.

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3/13/2018  2:21 PM
GustavBahler wrote:
newyorknewyork wrote:I bought tickets for this thing a while back for that Frank vs Smith matchup.

If they're both playing SG, it will be, heh heh.

That would be great. Hopefully Frank showing he can get to the rim as well. Im sure he doesnt want DSJ to have all the fun.

Its lost a lot of its steam since I first bought the tix. But should still be fun.

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3/13/2018  2:31 PM
knicks1248 wrote:
fitzfarm wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:PLEASE LOSE THIS GAME!

Yes this is a must lose game!

must continue to develop our youngsters in a losing culture, who wants to see the young guys playing well and winning. That makes zero sense right?...smh

If you hace to chose between talent or culture to rebuild a team from scratch like the Knicks I will chose talent first and build the culture from within later!!!

You want to build a culture in a team where only 2-4 players are really in the future plans of the franchise? Instead of adding franchise calibre talent?!?

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3/13/2018  2:38 PM
newyorknewyork wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
newyorknewyork wrote:I bought tickets for this thing a while back for that Frank vs Smith matchup.

If they're both playing SG, it will be, heh heh.

That would be great. Hopefully Frank showing he can get to the rim as well. Im sure he doesnt want DSJ to have all the fun.

Its lost a lot of its steam since I first bought the tix. But should still be fun.

Maybe as far as hype, but Frank vs DSJ at the 2 might turn out to be be an old school playground battle. I believe the odds are more in Frank's favor this time. We'll see.

Have fun. Miss those giant soft pretzels, lol.

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3/13/2018  4:46 PM
knicks1248 wrote:
fitzfarm wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:PLEASE LOSE THIS GAME!

Yes this is a must lose game!

must continue to develop our youngsters in a losing culture, who wants to see the young guys playing well and winning. That makes zero sense right?...smh

i know you dont believe in building through the draft but wins at this point of the season do absolutely nothing besides killing our chances of adding a young impact player into the young core
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3/13/2018  4:54 PM
is this the tank championship for the eastern conference?
TripleThreat
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3/13/2018  6:05 PM
knicks1248 wrote:must continue to develop our youngsters in a losing culture, who wants to see the young guys playing well and winning. That makes zero sense right?...smh


What youngsters?

Zinger is hurt.
Hernangomez was traded.
Kanter, Mudiay and Burke are outside their prime developmental window. They are "young" relative to life OUTSIDE OF THE NBA but in the NBA they are likely peaked in terms of any kind of real development.
Dotson and Kornet, those kind of guys are raw and they aren't getting minutes for a reason. They are just not prepared to really be in an NBA rotation right now.
Ntilikina is processing through more minutes against the highest level competition in the world as a teenager. Pushing him any harder risks injury.

You can't scream "DEVELOPMENT!" at the top of your lungs without any real context.

Context actually matters.

The NBA system has NO OTHER PRACTICAL MECHANISM TO GET BETTER LONG TERM.

Every rare example is an anomaly to the market structure or some rare exception to the rule in general. ( i.e. Shaq to LA, LBJ to the Heat, etc)

Since you came on this board you have been way off in regards to trade value. - Briggs 7/28/2015
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3/13/2018  6:21 PM
EnySpree wrote:I actually might try to go to this game tonight... just really dawned on me that this would be last chance to see Dirk play live

League and the NBAPA will watch closely when Dirk retires.

Over the course of his Mavs career, he's left over 100+ million in potential earnings on the table. That's pretty staggering. Other players like Duncan have left money on the table, but not to this degree. It's caused friction in the NBAPA ( they want all players to juice out the max contracts possible at all times) and some of the other owners ( i.e. it's pretty evident Mark Cuban is going to give Dirk a soft landing post career as a form of "repayment")

They can't do anything to players already in the league. Once you retire, you are no longer held to provisions in the CBA aside from the pension/service time sections.

But the league can make post retirement activities that circumvent the cap to be a condition to be drafted in the first place. I.E. you don't have to abide, but neither do you have to be considered draft eligible.

With more teams toploading ( Warriors, Timberwolves, Rockets, etc) this is going to be a bigger problem. Teams have more incentive now to try to avoid the repeater tax and try to entice franchise players to take some kind of handshake back end deal.

The next labor war will be bloody. We might see the NBA in a lockout for over a year. Maybe two.

Since you came on this board you have been way off in regards to trade value. - Briggs 7/28/2015
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3/13/2018  7:16 PM
TripleThreat wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:must continue to develop our youngsters in a losing culture, who wants to see the young guys playing well and winning. That makes zero sense right?...smh


What youngsters?

Zinger is hurt.
Hernangomez was traded.
Kanter, Mudiay and Burke are outside their prime developmental window. They are "young" relative to life OUTSIDE OF THE NBA but in the NBA they are likely peaked in terms of any kind of real development.
Dotson and Kornet, those kind of guys are raw and they aren't getting minutes for a reason. They are just not prepared to really be in an NBA rotation right now.
Ntilikina is processing through more minutes against the highest level competition in the world as a teenager. Pushing him any harder risks injury.

You can't scream "DEVELOPMENT!" at the top of your lungs without any real context.

Context actually matters.

The NBA system has NO OTHER PRACTICAL MECHANISM TO GET BETTER LONG TERM.

Every rare example is an anomaly to the market structure or some rare exception to the rule in general. ( i.e. Shaq to LA, LBJ to the Heat, etc)

It's never mattered to him. This dude is just going to repeat the same **** day in day out. That's his shtick just ignore him. He could barely contain himself all those years when Melo was sulking his way to a winning culture - he really misses those days.

I cannot teach anybody anything. I can only try to make them think - Socrates
meloshouldgo
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3/13/2018  7:40 PM
Becca in black.
I cannot teach anybody anything. I can only try to make them think - Socrates
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3/13/2018  7:44 PM
Q1 10:53
NYK 2 DAL 3
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3/13/2018  7:46 PM
Q1 9:50
NYK 3 DAL 3
GustavBahler
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3/13/2018  7:46 PM
meloshouldgo wrote:Becca in black.

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3/13/2018  7:48 PM
Q1 8:39
NYK 8 DAL 5
Tank thread: Dirk's possible last game at the garden

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