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VCoug
Posts: 24935 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 3/28/2007 Member: #1406 |
3/8/2018 10:35 PM
martin wrote:VCoug wrote:meloshouldgo wrote:VCoug wrote:Knixkik wrote:VCoug wrote:Knixkik wrote:VCoug wrote:EnySpree wrote:VCoug wrote:EnySpree wrote:BRIGGS wrote:colorfl1 wrote:Mudiay is woefully out of shape. I wouldn't make a judgment on anything he does this stretch. I can't find any All-Star or HOF players who shot as poorly as Ntilikina has; at least none that aren't big men. I do players that improved their shooting but none of them are what I would call really good shooters. Now the joy of my world is in Zion
How beautiful if nothing more
Than to wait at Zion's door
I've never been in love like this before
Now let me pray to keep you from
The perils that will surely come
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VCoug
Posts: 24935 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 3/28/2007 Member: #1406 |
3/8/2018 10:45 PM
Knixkik wrote:VCoug wrote:meloshouldgo wrote:VCoug wrote:Knixkik wrote:VCoug wrote:Knixkik wrote:VCoug wrote:EnySpree wrote:VCoug wrote:EnySpree wrote:BRIGGS wrote:colorfl1 wrote:Mudiay is woefully out of shape. I wouldn't make a judgment on anything he does this stretch. Malik Monk has been ****ing terrible so I don't know why you're bringing him up but yes, they are comparable. Ball has the most bizarre shooting form of anyone who has ever played basketball at any level and his eFG% is 50 points better and his TS% is 30 points higher than Ntilikina's. Smith's TS% and eFG% are 40 points higher than Ntilikina's. I really don't see how they're comparable at all. Now the joy of my world is in Zion
How beautiful if nothing more
Than to wait at Zion's door
I've never been in love like this before
Now let me pray to keep you from
The perils that will surely come
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nyk4ever
Posts: 40994 Alba Posts: 12 Joined: 1/12/2005 Member: #848 USA |
3/8/2018 10:55 PM
VCoug wrote:martin wrote:VCoug wrote:meloshouldgo wrote:VCoug wrote:Knixkik wrote:VCoug wrote:Knixkik wrote:VCoug wrote:EnySpree wrote:VCoug wrote:EnySpree wrote:BRIGGS wrote:colorfl1 wrote:Mudiay is woefully out of shape. I wouldn't make a judgment on anything he does this stretch. apparently you didn't really look that hard. chauncey billups: 37% and honestly thats just off the top of my head. "OMG - did we just go on a two-trade-wining-streak?" -SupremeCommander
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knicks1248
Posts: 42059 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 2/3/2004 Member: #582 |
3/9/2018 12:59 AM
nyk4ever wrote:VCoug wrote:martin wrote:VCoug wrote:meloshouldgo wrote:VCoug wrote:Knixkik wrote:VCoug wrote:Knixkik wrote:VCoug wrote:EnySpree wrote:VCoug wrote:EnySpree wrote:BRIGGS wrote:colorfl1 wrote:Mudiay is woefully out of shape. I wouldn't make a judgment on anything he does this stretch. The difference is those guys shot the ball and looked for their shot way more than frank, he takes 6 shots and misses 4 and his FT attempts is the lowest amongst players avg his minutes. Westbrook took 428 FT in his rookie yr, frank doesnt even have 65 ES
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VCoug
Posts: 24935 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 3/28/2007 Member: #1406 |
3/9/2018 9:57 AM
nyk4ever wrote:VCoug wrote:martin wrote:VCoug wrote:meloshouldgo wrote:VCoug wrote:Knixkik wrote:VCoug wrote:Knixkik wrote:VCoug wrote:EnySpree wrote:VCoug wrote:EnySpree wrote:BRIGGS wrote:colorfl1 wrote:Mudiay is woefully out of shape. I wouldn't make a judgment on anything he does this stretch. Billups' shooting number are way better than Ntilikina's; he has an eFG% 40 points higher and TS% 80 points higher. The other guys you mentioned do have similar eFG% to Ntilikina but they all have TS% at least 30 points higher. Now the joy of my world is in Zion
How beautiful if nothing more
Than to wait at Zion's door
I've never been in love like this before
Now let me pray to keep you from
The perils that will surely come
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WaltLongmire
Posts: 27623 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 6/28/2014 Member: #5843 |
3/9/2018 11:45 AM
VCoug wrote:martin wrote:VCoug wrote:meloshouldgo wrote:VCoug wrote:Knixkik wrote:VCoug wrote:Knixkik wrote:VCoug wrote:EnySpree wrote:VCoug wrote:EnySpree wrote:BRIGGS wrote:colorfl1 wrote:Mudiay is woefully out of shape. I wouldn't make a judgment on anything he does this stretch. Hornacek talked about his own career the other day... Horny entered the league at 23! His first 3 years of shooting from 3... 28%, 29%, 33%. His first year over 40% was when he was 26 years old! He ended up with a career 40% from distance. You can reach your own conclusions. EnySpree: Can we agree to agree not to mention Phil Jackson and triangle for the rest of our lives?
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WaltLongmire
Posts: 27623 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 6/28/2014 Member: #5843 |
3/9/2018 11:56 AM
Knixkik wrote:VCoug wrote:Knixkik wrote:BRIGGS wrote:Knixkik wrote:It was a good gamble, but you're right, he's looking really bad. Denver gave us... • Emmanuel Mudiay • 2018 second round pick (less favorable of Blazers, Kings picks) EnySpree: Can we agree to agree not to mention Phil Jackson and triangle for the rest of our lives?
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VCoug
Posts: 24935 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 3/28/2007 Member: #1406 |
3/9/2018 12:02 PM
WaltLongmire wrote:VCoug wrote:martin wrote:VCoug wrote:meloshouldgo wrote:VCoug wrote:Knixkik wrote:VCoug wrote:Knixkik wrote:VCoug wrote:EnySpree wrote:VCoug wrote:EnySpree wrote:BRIGGS wrote:colorfl1 wrote:Mudiay is woefully out of shape. I wouldn't make a judgment on anything he does this stretch. Hornacek also had a TS% 90 points higher, and eFG% 70 points higher, and a 2P% 100 points higher than Ntilikina's. Now the joy of my world is in Zion
How beautiful if nothing more
Than to wait at Zion's door
I've never been in love like this before
Now let me pray to keep you from
The perils that will surely come
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WaltLongmire
Posts: 27623 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 6/28/2014 Member: #5843 |
3/9/2018 12:24 PM
VCoug wrote:WaltLongmire wrote:VCoug wrote:martin wrote:VCoug wrote:meloshouldgo wrote:VCoug wrote:Knixkik wrote:VCoug wrote:Knixkik wrote:VCoug wrote:EnySpree wrote:VCoug wrote:EnySpree wrote:BRIGGS wrote:colorfl1 wrote:Mudiay is woefully out of shape. I wouldn't make a judgment on anything he does this stretch. The concept under discussion has to do a game evolving through experience, physical maturation, confidence, and fine tuning your skills. Frank actually improved his shot in France...you seem to think that he won't feel more comfortable on the offensive end as he gets older...I'm saying that it's foolish to believe that. Time will tell...one of us will admit that we were wrong 2-4 years down the line...I'm expecting that it will be you. EnySpree: Can we agree to agree not to mention Phil Jackson and triangle for the rest of our lives?
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martin
Posts: 68680 Alba Posts: 108 Joined: 7/24/2001 Member: #2 USA |
3/9/2018 3:30 PM
VCoug wrote:WaltLongmire wrote:VCoug wrote:martin wrote:VCoug wrote:meloshouldgo wrote:VCoug wrote:Knixkik wrote:VCoug wrote:Knixkik wrote:VCoug wrote:EnySpree wrote:VCoug wrote:EnySpree wrote:BRIGGS wrote:colorfl1 wrote:Mudiay is woefully out of shape. I wouldn't make a judgment on anything he does this stretch. I dont even understand what these mean. Could you lay the numbers side by side for us? Don't even know what you are comparing and what 90 points higher means Official sponsor of the PURE KNICKS LOVE Program
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GustavBahler
Posts: 41138 Alba Posts: 15 Joined: 7/12/2010 Member: #3186 |
3/9/2018 4:23 PM
martin wrote:VCoug wrote:WaltLongmire wrote:VCoug wrote:martin wrote:VCoug wrote:meloshouldgo wrote:VCoug wrote:Knixkik wrote:VCoug wrote:Knixkik wrote:VCoug wrote:EnySpree wrote:VCoug wrote:EnySpree wrote:BRIGGS wrote:colorfl1 wrote:Mudiay is woefully out of shape. I wouldn't make a judgment on anything he does this stretch. Dont really care what Frank's shooting numbers are as long he is aggressive. Frank has a nice stroke, its a matter or reps, confidence, more than anything. You expect rookies to shoot poorly, you dont expect them to be so unwilling to shoot. Frank came up as an SG, slipped back into that role like a glove. Just happy Frank may have found his role on the squad, Dont care why another regime drafted him. Sometimes its more about how a player is wired, than his smarts. |
VCoug
Posts: 24935 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 3/28/2007 Member: #1406 |
3/9/2018 7:14 PM
martin wrote:VCoug wrote:WaltLongmire wrote:VCoug wrote:martin wrote:VCoug wrote:meloshouldgo wrote:VCoug wrote:Knixkik wrote:VCoug wrote:Knixkik wrote:VCoug wrote:EnySpree wrote:VCoug wrote:EnySpree wrote:BRIGGS wrote:colorfl1 wrote:Mudiay is woefully out of shape. I wouldn't make a judgment on anything he does this stretch. All numbers are from their rookie year. I've also included several foreign-born players who struggled through their own growing pains when they first got to the NBA plus Mudiay for ****s and giggles.
I'm not saying that Ntilikina can't/won't improve and is a bust. I am saying that he is a long, long way away from being a rotational player in the NBA. Even Mudiay, who scarily has the most similar shooting numbers to Ntilikina, has improved over his short career. The problem is Ntilikina's shooting numbers are so bad he's got a long way to just to get to average let alone good. Now the joy of my world is in Zion
How beautiful if nothing more
Than to wait at Zion's door
I've never been in love like this before
Now let me pray to keep you from
The perils that will surely come
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