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Bizzy211
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9/7/2004  2:09 PM
I am not knocking or saying Allan Houston has too much pride. This is just a matter of questioning.

With his recent injury last season, would it be fair to say Allan Houston should just volunteer his services to come off the bench? Especially early on in the season? Or should he start and just settle for less playing time? I am a little concern with him reinjuring his knees. Now this is assuming he isn't 100%
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9/7/2004  2:21 PM
Posted by Bizzy211:

I am not knocking or saying Allan Houston has too much pride. This is just a matter of questioning.

With his recent injury last season, would it be fair to say Allan Houston should just volunteer his services to come off the bench? Especially early on in the season? Or should he start and just settle for less playing time? I am a little concern with him reinjuring his knees. Now this is assuming he isn't 100%
Yes, he should volunteer to come off the bench, but my guess is it's just a matter of time until he's forced into that role anyway
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9/7/2004  2:23 PM
start and get less playing time. Like 25-30min per game. I like Crawford as sixth man as a spark off the bench much like Spree in 99. Houston i think will never get accustomed to coming off the bench.

[Edited by - gunsnewing on 09/07/2004 14:25:38]
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9/7/2004  2:27 PM
Posted by gunsnewing:

start and get less playing time. Like 25-30min per game. I like Crawford as sixth man as a spark off the bench much like Spree in 99. Houston i think will never get accustomed to coming off the bench.

[Edited by - gunsnewing on 09/07/2004 14:25:38]
Actually, I think Houston could provide an awesome offensive spark off the bench like Dell Curry. If Jamal is our SG of the future, then as soon as *he* is ready, he should be starting (not as soon as Houston is ready to come off the bench).

[Edited by - Bonn1997 on 09/07/2004 14:29:09]
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9/7/2004  2:41 PM
Posted by gunsnewing:

start and get less playing time. Like 25-30min per game. I like Crawford as sixth man as a spark off the bench much like Spree in 99. Houston i think will never get accustomed to coming off the bench.
This is true but Houston would be perfect off the bench also. If we can use his jump shooting effectively, he can be a very good weapon in the offense. Coming of the bench just might do it.
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9/7/2004  2:42 PM
I think I favor Allan Houston starting w/ less playing time. I think Allan can help open the game up for our big men because he is a proven shooter (shooter is Allan, and a scorer is Jamal). Until Jamal improves on his shooting, or shows us that he can shoot then Allan should start, but with limited and carefully watched playing time.
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9/7/2004  2:42 PM
Posted by Bizzy211:

I am not knocking or saying Allan Houston has too much pride. This is just a matter of questioning.

With his recent injury last season, would it be fair to say Allan Houston should just volunteer his services to come off the bench? Especially early on in the season? Or should he start and just settle for less playing time? I am a little concern with him reinjuring his knees. Now this is assuming he isn't 100%
There's really no such thing as being 100% ever again after microfracture knee surgery.
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9/7/2004  2:44 PM
Posted by Bonn1997:
Posted by gunsnewing:

start and get less playing time. Like 25-30min per game. I like Crawford as sixth man as a spark off the bench much like Spree in 99. Houston i think will never get accustomed to coming off the bench.

[Edited by - gunsnewing on 09/07/2004 14:25:38]
Actually, I think Houston could provide an awesome offensive spark off the bench like Dell Curry. If Jamal is our SG of the future, then as soon as *he* is ready, he should be starting (not as soon as Houston is ready to come off the bench).

[Edited by - Bonn1997 on 09/07/2004 14:29:09]

Isiah never called Jamal a shooting guard. He called him a combo guard who could play both positions. Starting Jamal at SG wastes his ability to backup Marbs.

I said this is another strand and I'll say it again: There is no way Houston doesn't start is he isn't injured. He's a co-captain. He's the leading scorer on the team. This is ridiculous. This is like when the harpies decided Ewing wasn't good anymore. Look where that got us, harpies.
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9/7/2004  2:45 PM
Posted by Bonn1997:
Posted by Bizzy211:

I am not knocking or saying Allan Houston has too much pride. This is just a matter of questioning.

With his recent injury last season, would it be fair to say Allan Houston should just volunteer his services to come off the bench? Especially early on in the season? Or should he start and just settle for less playing time? I am a little concern with him reinjuring his knees. Now this is assuming he isn't 100%
There's really no such thing as being 100% ever again after microfracture knee surgery.

True, true indeed, but you should atleast understand what i mean.

[Edited by - Bizzy211 on 09/07/2004 15:03:43]
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9/7/2004  3:01 PM
If allen is heathy he starts. Otherwise we deal with it as we go a long.

YOu don't pay healthy people 20mil a year to be a sparkplug.



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9/7/2004  3:11 PM
Houston, if healthy starts, period end of story. JC can come in for either Houston or Steph so why even consider putting H2O on bench when he can only come in for JC. It works with a 3 man rotation. Penny backs up the other three and TT at the 3 (just keep Anderson polishing shoes, dusting the bench or runnning off to get Accelerade for the team.
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9/7/2004  3:43 PM
Posted by TheSage:

Houston, if healthy starts, period end of story. JC can come in for either Houston or Steph so why even consider putting H2O on bench when he can only come in for JC. It works with a 3 man rotation. Penny backs up the other three and TT at the 3 (just keep Anderson polishing shoes, dusting the bench or runnning off to get Accelerade for the team.

Let me guess, u must be Isaiah Thomas. There is no end of story to a debate. Now, ur comment on the 3 man rotation was a very good one. It does work out better starting Allan. And u are once again right my friend.... Shandon should be polishing Ariza's shoes and warming up the bench for the starters which means he'll have to rotate seats every 5 minutes to keep them all warm.

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9/7/2004  3:48 PM
Jamal will have a very effective role off the bench much like Dallas had with Van Exel
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9/7/2004  3:52 PM
I hope so.
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9/7/2004  3:56 PM
Posted by TheSage:

Houston, if healthy starts, period end of story. JC can come in for either Houston or Steph so why even consider putting H2O on bench when he can only come in for JC. It works with a 3 man rotation. Penny backs up the other three and TT at the 3 (just keep Anderson polishing shoes, dusting the bench or runnning off to get Accelerade for the team.

Just to clarify, since it would be a 3 guard rotation, Allan could come in for either Jamal or Steph. If he comes in for Steph, Jamal just slides down to the 1 with Allan playing the 2.
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9/7/2004  3:59 PM
Posted by MaTT4281:
Posted by TheSage:

Houston, if healthy starts, period end of story. JC can come in for either Houston or Steph so why even consider putting H2O on bench when he can only come in for JC. It works with a 3 man rotation. Penny backs up the other three and TT at the 3 (just keep Anderson polishing shoes, dusting the bench or runnning off to get Accelerade for the team.

Just to clarify, since it would be a 3 guard rotation, Allan could come in for either Jamal or Steph. If he comes in for Steph, Jamal just slides down to the 1 with Allan playing the 2.

Dammit' Why didn't I think of that? Can I take credit for it?
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9/7/2004  4:13 PM
if houston is healthy - he's 10X better than jamal crawford right now. he's a better shooter and has the ability to carry a team, as exhibited as recent as 2 season's ago. last year was a wash b/c chaney played him 45 mins a night coming off of knee surgery to save his job. since h20's game is not based on athleticism, i think he can come back and not miss a beat. therefore, he should start and like many have said, should play in the 20-25 min range building strength for the playoffs.
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9/7/2004  4:24 PM
Posted by djsunyc:

if houston is healthy - he's 10X better than jamal crawford right now. he's a better shooter and has the ability to carry a team, as exhibited as recent as 2 season's ago. last year was a wash b/c chaney played him 45 mins a night coming off of knee surgery to save his job. since h20's game is not based on athleticism, i think he can come back and not miss a beat. therefore, he should start and like many have said, should play in the 20-25 min range building strength for the playoffs.

If Houston knew how to play defense well, then I would go as far as saying he can carry a team because you have to do it on both ends of the floor. The knicks hopefully will be able to make those timely stops this year on the defensive end.
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9/7/2004  4:36 PM
It matters how both progress. If Houston is healthy and close to all star caliber he will start. If Crawford has a good strong year, I think Alan either comes off the bench or gets traded next year. I think Alan starts and gets all the oppurtunity he needs to have a great year.
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9/7/2004  4:59 PM
Posted by MaTT4281:
Posted by TheSage:

Houston, if healthy starts, period end of story. JC can come in for either Houston or Steph so why even consider putting H2O on bench when he can only come in for JC. It works with a 3 man rotation. Penny backs up the other three and TT at the 3 (just keep Anderson polishing shoes, dusting the bench or runnning off to get Accelerade for the team.

Just to clarify, since it would be a 3 guard rotation, Allan could come in for either Jamal or Steph. If he comes in for Steph, Jamal just slides down to the 1 with Allan playing the 2.
Exactly; you simply don't understand how a 3 guard rotation works if you make a comment like 'Houston can come in only for JC'
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