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martin
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3/3/2018 11:59 AM
IMO reason KOQ will never be a starter or important big man on a playoff team (even off bench). Same reason I don’t offer him a long term contract (unless it’s at $5m per)
Tweet was deleted or there was problem with the URL: Constantly sits in paint on D, commits way too many illegal screens, etc Official sponsor of the PURE KNICKS LOVE Program
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EnySpree
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3/3/2018 3:57 PM
martin wrote:IMO reason KOQ will never be a starter or important big man on a playoff team (even off bench). Same reason I don’t offer him a long term contract (unless it’s at $5m per)Tweet was deleted or there was problem with the URL: His job is to protect the paint. Looks like he got caught on a screen here. That's why he yelled ****.... KOQ is a center. He does his job well. His flaw is sometimes he gets crazy and then gets bad fouls or turnovers being over aggressive. I can live with that because he does way more good than bad. Subscribe to my Podcast https://youtube.com/c/DiehardknicksPodcast
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martin
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3/3/2018 4:06 PM
EnySpree wrote:martin wrote:IMO reason KOQ will never be a starter or important big man on a playoff team (even off bench). Same reason I don’t offer him a long term contract (unless it’s at $5m per)Tweet was deleted or there was problem with the URL: What are you talking about? In a PnR situation, his job is not to back off and play defense in no man's land. And KOQ does this repeatedly. And he fouls so much and makes so many mental he can't stay in the game and it's why his minutes are limited on a bad team. You wanna build a playoff team or a team of a bunch of second rate players? KOQ is second rate. At best. Official sponsor of the PURE KNICKS LOVE Program
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EnySpree
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3/3/2018 10:48 PM LAST EDITED: 3/3/2018 10:49 PM
martin wrote:EnySpree wrote:martin wrote:IMO reason KOQ will never be a starter or important big man on a playoff team (even off bench). Same reason I don’t offer him a long term contract (unless it’s at $5m per)Tweet was deleted or there was problem with the URL: I believe I said he got caught on a screen... that means he got caught back pedaling.... he knew he ****ed up. Thats why he yelled ****. He does get caught there alot. Never said he didn't... but I'm not gonna exaggerate it. I also said that he gets caught making fouls and turnovers because he can get too aggressive.... I did say that right? Aren't we saying the same thing about KOQ? He might be a second rate player... but that makes him a solid back up. His rebounding and block numbers are still top notch. He's still a good passer and decent 18 foot shooter. Hardly terrible. Subscribe to my Podcast https://youtube.com/c/DiehardknicksPodcast
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martin
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3/4/2018 12:27 AM
EnySpree wrote:martin wrote:EnySpree wrote:martin wrote:IMO reason KOQ will never be a starter or important big man on a playoff team (even off bench). Same reason I don’t offer him a long term contract (unless it’s at $5m per)Tweet was deleted or there was problem with the URL: KOQ gets "caught" defending the paint a lot. By himself. Away from all the offensive players. Every Game. Multiple times a game. In this particular instance, DeAndre Jordan was near the 3point line. And KOQ decided it was a good time to back the **** up. Cause DeAndre may have been a threat even though Frank picked him off. I'm gonna get all emotional and let everyone know that KOQ sucks. Let me know if I should create some threads on that Official sponsor of the PURE KNICKS LOVE Program
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EnySpree
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3/4/2018 5:50 AM
martin wrote:EnySpree wrote:martin wrote:EnySpree wrote:martin wrote:IMO reason KOQ will never be a starter or important big man on a playoff team (even off bench). Same reason I don’t offer him a long term contract (unless it’s at $5m per)Tweet was deleted or there was problem with the URL: You're referring to the Frank threads... I was going on about him because there was something to talk about. Since Mudiay and Burke came on together, Frank has emerged as a 2 guard threat like I said he would. Nothing emotional going on there. Just a poster that knows what he's talking about because he knows what he's looking at Subscribe to my Podcast https://youtube.com/c/DiehardknicksPodcast
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Bonn1997
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3/4/2018 7:11 AM
martin wrote:IMO reason KOQ will never be a starter or important big man on a playoff team (even off bench). Same reason I don’t offer him a long term contract (unless it’s at $5m per)Tweet was deleted or there was problem with the URL: How many guys do we have that right now would get significant minutes on a strong playoff team?! Probably just one injured guy. That's too high a standard for us to have. |
EnySpree
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3/4/2018 8:04 AM
Bonn1997 wrote:martin wrote:IMO reason KOQ will never be a starter or important big man on a playoff team (even off bench). Same reason I don’t offer him a long term contract (unless it’s at $5m per)Tweet was deleted or there was problem with the URL: Instead of crying about it, who do you like thats available to us next season? KOQ is definately at a crossroads this summer. He's not a complete bum so let's not exaggerate his flaws. If you don't like him fine... but let's talk about who we can bring in that is better fit in your opinions Subscribe to my Podcast https://youtube.com/c/DiehardknicksPodcast
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Bonn1997
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3/4/2018 9:05 AM LAST EDITED: 3/4/2018 9:09 AM
EnySpree wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:martin wrote:IMO reason KOQ will never be a starter or important big man on a playoff team (even off bench). Same reason I don’t offer him a long term contract (unless it’s at $5m per)Tweet was deleted or there was problem with the URL: I was criticizing Martin's view. I think KOQ could be a backup on plenty of good teams. I don't think GSW and HOU were inquiring about him just to sit him on the bench. Martin's focusing on the negative. Fine but there aren't many Cs in the league who can give you 22 points (14 from the field, 8 from assists) per 36 min with good rebounding and blocks. |
EnySpree
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3/4/2018 10:15 AM
Bonn1997 wrote:EnySpree wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:martin wrote:IMO reason KOQ will never be a starter or important big man on a playoff team (even off bench). Same reason I don’t offer him a long term contract (unless it’s at $5m per)Tweet was deleted or there was problem with the URL: I know I'm just trying not to further piss off the all-father Subscribe to my Podcast https://youtube.com/c/DiehardknicksPodcast
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GustavBahler
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3/4/2018 10:25 AM
Bonn1997 wrote:EnySpree wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:martin wrote:IMO reason KOQ will never be a starter or important big man on a playoff team (even off bench). Same reason I don’t offer him a long term contract (unless it’s at $5m per)Tweet was deleted or there was problem with the URL: Not going to find the perfect two way center unless you draft him, or pay through the nose for one. Its not center where we need help. We've had straight up dog **** backcourts for years. Whatever issues there are at the 5 wont seem nearly as bad when we get the backcourt straightened out. |
martin
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3/4/2018 2:32 PM
Bonn1997 wrote:martin wrote:IMO reason KOQ will never be a starter or important big man on a playoff team (even off bench). Same reason I don’t offer him a long term contract (unless it’s at $5m per)Tweet was deleted or there was problem with the URL: I'm obviously talking through the lens of building a team and offering KOQ (or anybody) the next contract. What are you talking about? Official sponsor of the PURE KNICKS LOVE Program
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martin
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3/4/2018 2:37 PM
Bonn1997 wrote:EnySpree wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:martin wrote:IMO reason KOQ will never be a starter or important big man on a playoff team (even off bench). Same reason I don’t offer him a long term contract (unless it’s at $5m per)Tweet was deleted or there was problem with the URL: KOQ will never get to 36 minutes. EVER. He makes too many mistakes - and we ain't talking about a 19 or 20 year old who is still feeling his way through the league. And his 36 is based off of bench minutes on a team starved for good players. What's his TO and foul rate per 36? And how do those rates compare to players coming off bench for a playoff team? Official sponsor of the PURE KNICKS LOVE Program
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BigRedDog
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3/4/2018 2:48 PM
martin wrote:IMO reason KOQ will never be a starter or important big man on a playoff team (even off bench). Same reason I don’t offer him a long term contract (unless it’s at $5m per)Tweet was deleted or there was problem with the URL: I agree completely. I have been one of his biggest detractors. I just don't think he is any good and so over rated on this site. Terrible defender- can't defend any starting center, can't get out to the 3 pt line, goes for every fake, makes 1-3 illegal screens per game, 1-3 boneheaded plays per game. He never runs hard and just jogs. I see Kanter sprinting down court vs KOQ just jogs and therefore his defender beats him down court for any easy basket.Not sure why he never gets called out for this by Horny. He is a backup, no way can he be a starter. KOQ is fools gold, looks good for moments or a few games but can't do it consistently .Makes some good passes but then makes some terrible passes right to the defender. No way can we give money to a back up center. Much smarter to let him leave and give the minutes to Noah. Briggs-- Frank is 2 yrs away from being 2 years away
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Bonn1997
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3/4/2018 5:07 PM
BigRedDog wrote:martin wrote:IMO reason KOQ will never be a starter or important big man on a playoff team (even off bench). Same reason I don’t offer him a long term contract (unless it’s at $5m per)Tweet was deleted or there was problem with the URL: All that and he's still holding his man to below average shooting! It must be all that help defense from Jack. |