martin wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

BigDaddyG wrote:

nykshaknbake wrote:He was a bad pick at 8. But that's all water under the bridge. Right now he's a possibly fringe NBA player. Sorry nix, u need more than d at the pg position. I'm not really seeing the bball iq which his proponents say is really high.

Washington Wizards fans were saying similar things about Otto Porter two years ago. Now he's a Max player. It's way too early to tell if it's a bad pick.

Dont believe its unfair to say that while Frank might turn out to be a good player, the Knicks would have been better served drafting a more NBA ready player, considering our needs. And maybe taking Frank in the second round,if still there.

Baker was older, but he was undrafted. Cant really say that Frank's rookie season as the 8th pick, was remarkably better.

Also worth noting that the best move to the rim Frank made as a Knick was when he played off the ball. Id rather Frank turn to a good SG than one coach after another trying to prove they can turn Frank into a great starting PG.

What? Why are you drafting a more NBA ready player? This is not a playoff team that needs to plug 1 hole in their rotation. High ceiling potential is exactly what the Knicks need IMHO. Same as when you draft a guy like KP.

And do you really think Frank would have lasted anywhere near the second round?

Frank isnt playing well enough to start on a division one college team, let alone the NBA. Wouldnt have surprised me. He is a project with a capital P.Most PGs taken this high can generate some offense when needed. Frank cant and thats not why he was drafted.

Knicks dont have all the time in the world to wait on Frank. Starting PG is the most demanding position in the league. Time doesnt stand still while Frank summons up the courage to go for a layup. His development isnt happening in a vaccuum.

KP was thought to be a project a 4, but his height meant he could have an impact sooner rather than later, with his skill set. Drafting a PG with little or no offense at 8, is different. Pairing KP with a PG who could have filled the starting job sooner would have been smarter, because they would have been able to keep other teams from zeroing in on him with an offense they couldnt ignore.

GustavBahler wrote:

martin wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

BigDaddyG wrote:

nykshaknbake wrote:He was a bad pick at 8. But that's all water under the bridge. Right now he's a possibly fringe NBA player. Sorry nix, u need more than d at the pg position. I'm not really seeing the bball iq which his proponents say is really high.

Washington Wizards fans were saying similar things about Otto Porter two years ago. Now he's a Max player. It's way too early to tell if it's a bad pick.

Dont believe its unfair to say that while Frank might turn out to be a good player, the Knicks would have been better served drafting a more NBA ready player, considering our needs. And maybe taking Frank in the second round,if still there.

Baker was older, but he was undrafted. Cant really say that Frank's rookie season as the 8th pick, was remarkably better.

Also worth noting that the best move to the rim Frank made as a Knick was when he played off the ball. Id rather Frank turn to a good SG than one coach after another trying to prove they can turn Frank into a great starting PG.

What? Why are you drafting a more NBA ready player? This is not a playoff team that needs to plug 1 hole in their rotation. High ceiling potential is exactly what the Knicks need IMHO. Same as when you draft a guy like KP.

And do you really think Frank would have lasted anywhere near the second round?

Frank isnt playing well enough to start on a division one college team, let alone the NBA. Wouldnt have surprised me. He is a project with a capital P.Most PGs taken this high can generate some offense when needed. Frank cant and thats not why he was drafted.

Knicks dont have all the time in the world to wait on Frank. Starting PG is the most demanding position in the league. Time doesnt stand still while Frank summons up the courage to go for a layup. His development isnt happening in a vaccuum.

KP was thought to be a project a 4, but his height meant he could have an impact sooner rather than later, with his skill set. Drafting a PG with little or no offense at 8, is different. Pairing KP with a PG who could have filled the starting job sooner would have been smarter, because they would have been able to keep other teams from zeroing in on him with an offense they couldnt ignore.

You are really out of your mind with this comment. Not good enough to start division 1? Frank would be a very good college player right now, dominant in fact. Comments like these lose any credibility big time. I can no longer respond to this type of nonsense. Just mindless posting at its finest.

Knixkik wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

martin wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

BigDaddyG wrote:

nykshaknbake wrote:He was a bad pick at 8. But that's all water under the bridge. Right now he's a possibly fringe NBA player. Sorry nix, u need more than d at the pg position. I'm not really seeing the bball iq which his proponents say is really high.

Washington Wizards fans were saying similar things about Otto Porter two years ago. Now he's a Max player. It's way too early to tell if it's a bad pick.

Dont believe its unfair to say that while Frank might turn out to be a good player, the Knicks would have been better served drafting a more NBA ready player, considering our needs. And maybe taking Frank in the second round,if still there.

Baker was older, but he was undrafted. Cant really say that Frank's rookie season as the 8th pick, was remarkably better.

Also worth noting that the best move to the rim Frank made as a Knick was when he played off the ball. Id rather Frank turn to a good SG than one coach after another trying to prove they can turn Frank into a great starting PG.

What? Why are you drafting a more NBA ready player? This is not a playoff team that needs to plug 1 hole in their rotation. High ceiling potential is exactly what the Knicks need IMHO. Same as when you draft a guy like KP.

And do you really think Frank would have lasted anywhere near the second round?

Frank isnt playing well enough to start on a division one college team, let alone the NBA. Wouldnt have surprised me. He is a project with a capital P.Most PGs taken this high can generate some offense when needed. Frank cant and thats not why he was drafted.

Knicks dont have all the time in the world to wait on Frank. Starting PG is the most demanding position in the league. Time doesnt stand still while Frank summons up the courage to go for a layup. His development isnt happening in a vaccuum.

KP was thought to be a project a 4, but his height meant he could have an impact sooner rather than later, with his skill set. Drafting a PG with little or no offense at 8, is different. Pairing KP with a PG who could have filled the starting job sooner would have been smarter, because they would have been able to keep other teams from zeroing in on him with an offense they couldnt ignore.

You are really out of your mind with this comment. Not good enough to start division 1? Frank would be a very good college player right now, dominant in fact. Comments like these lose any credibility big time. I can no longer respond to this type of nonsense. Just mindless posting at its finest.

Oh please. A starting PG who is afraid to go for a layup, telegraphs all too many passes, would be coming off the bench. Why? Because he is only 19. Remember that one? Only your favorite excuse. Keep hearing Frank would be a freshman in college. Shows the making of an NBA player, but he also often plays like a college freshman.

I can see it, sorry you cant.

BigDaddyG wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

Knixkik wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

martin wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

BigDaddyG wrote:

nykshaknbake wrote:He was a bad pick at 8. But that's all water under the bridge. Right now he's a possibly fringe NBA player. Sorry nix, u need more than d at the pg position. I'm not really seeing the bball iq which his proponents say is really high.

Washington Wizards fans were saying similar things about Otto Porter two years ago. Now he's a Max player. It's way too early to tell if it's a bad pick.

Dont believe its unfair to say that while Frank might turn out to be a good player, the Knicks would have been better served drafting a more NBA ready player, considering our needs. And maybe taking Frank in the second round,if still there.

Baker was older, but he was undrafted. Cant really say that Frank's rookie season as the 8th pick, was remarkably better.

Also worth noting that the best move to the rim Frank made as a Knick was when he played off the ball. Id rather Frank turn to a good SG than one coach after another trying to prove they can turn Frank into a great starting PG.

What? Why are you drafting a more NBA ready player? This is not a playoff team that needs to plug 1 hole in their rotation. High ceiling potential is exactly what the Knicks need IMHO. Same as when you draft a guy like KP.

And do you really think Frank would have lasted anywhere near the second round?

Frank isnt playing well enough to start on a division one college team, let alone the NBA. Wouldnt have surprised me. He is a project with a capital P.Most PGs taken this high can generate some offense when needed. Frank cant and thats not why he was drafted.

Knicks dont have all the time in the world to wait on Frank. Starting PG is the most demanding position in the league. Time doesnt stand still while Frank summons up the courage to go for a layup. His development isnt happening in a vaccuum.

KP was thought to be a project a 4, but his height meant he could have an impact sooner rather than later, with his skill set. Drafting a PG with little or no offense at 8, is different. Pairing KP with a PG who could have filled the starting job sooner would have been smarter, because they would have been able to keep other teams from zeroing in on him with an offense they couldnt ignore.

You are really out of your mind with this comment. Not good enough to start division 1? Frank would be a very good college player right now, dominant in fact. Comments like these lose any credibility big time. I can no longer respond to this type of nonsense. Just mindless posting at its finest.

Oh please. A starting PG who is afraid to go for a layup, telegraphs all too many passes, would be coming off the bench. Why? Because he is only 19. Remember that one? Only your favorite excuse. Keep hearing Frank would be a freshman in college. Shows the making of an NBA player, but he also often plays like a college freshman.

I can see it, sorry you cant.

Sure, he only helped lead his team to Championship series last year. Your hate for Frank aside, do you still think we should avoid the tank? You still sound like you want us to go all in for the 8th playoff spot?

How do you get avoiding the tank from his reponse? Bottom line is Frank should not have been the pick at 8! phil should have never been allowed to make the pick if Dolan knew he was going to fire him...Hopefully, Perry has a clue this summer...

Knixkik wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

Knixkik wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

martin wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

BigDaddyG wrote:

nykshaknbake wrote:He was a bad pick at 8. But that's all water under the bridge. Right now he's a possibly fringe NBA player. Sorry nix, u need more than d at the pg position. I'm not really seeing the bball iq which his proponents say is really high.

Washington Wizards fans were saying similar things about Otto Porter two years ago. Now he's a Max player. It's way too early to tell if it's a bad pick.

Dont believe its unfair to say that while Frank might turn out to be a good player, the Knicks would have been better served drafting a more NBA ready player, considering our needs. And maybe taking Frank in the second round,if still there.

Baker was older, but he was undrafted. Cant really say that Frank's rookie season as the 8th pick, was remarkably better.

Also worth noting that the best move to the rim Frank made as a Knick was when he played off the ball. Id rather Frank turn to a good SG than one coach after another trying to prove they can turn Frank into a great starting PG.

What? Why are you drafting a more NBA ready player? This is not a playoff team that needs to plug 1 hole in their rotation. High ceiling potential is exactly what the Knicks need IMHO. Same as when you draft a guy like KP.

And do you really think Frank would have lasted anywhere near the second round?

Frank isnt playing well enough to start on a division one college team, let alone the NBA. Wouldnt have surprised me. He is a project with a capital P.Most PGs taken this high can generate some offense when needed. Frank cant and thats not why he was drafted.

Knicks dont have all the time in the world to wait on Frank. Starting PG is the most demanding position in the league. Time doesnt stand still while Frank summons up the courage to go for a layup. His development isnt happening in a vaccuum.

KP was thought to be a project a 4, but his height meant he could have an impact sooner rather than later, with his skill set. Drafting a PG with little or no offense at 8, is different. Pairing KP with a PG who could have filled the starting job sooner would have been smarter, because they would have been able to keep other teams from zeroing in on him with an offense they couldnt ignore.

You are really out of your mind with this comment. Not good enough to start division 1? Frank would be a very good college player right now, dominant in fact. Comments like these lose any credibility big time. I can no longer respond to this type of nonsense. Just mindless posting at its finest.

Oh please. A starting PG who is afraid to go for a layup, telegraphs all too many passes, would be coming off the bench. Why? Because he is only 19. Remember that one? Only your favorite excuse. Keep hearing Frank would be a freshman in college. Shows the making of an NBA player, but he also often plays like a college freshman.

I can see it, sorry you cant.

FYI, he started on a Division 1 french team as an 18 year old, which is viewed as much more competitive than Division 1 NCAA. It's a grown man's league that rarely starts or plays young players. So no, he wouldn't be coming off the bench in college. Whatever you are seeing apparently is way too advanced for the basketball world.

If that were true, I would expect to see Frank performing on par with some of the better 19 year olds in this draft, given his pro experience, that they do not have.

Im going by results, not hypotheticals.

GustavBahler wrote:

Knixkik wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

Knixkik wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

martin wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

BigDaddyG wrote:

nykshaknbake wrote:He was a bad pick at 8. But that's all water under the bridge. Right now he's a possibly fringe NBA player. Sorry nix, u need more than d at the pg position. I'm not really seeing the bball iq which his proponents say is really high.

Washington Wizards fans were saying similar things about Otto Porter two years ago. Now he's a Max player. It's way too early to tell if it's a bad pick.

Dont believe its unfair to say that while Frank might turn out to be a good player, the Knicks would have been better served drafting a more NBA ready player, considering our needs. And maybe taking Frank in the second round,if still there.

Baker was older, but he was undrafted. Cant really say that Frank's rookie season as the 8th pick, was remarkably better.

Also worth noting that the best move to the rim Frank made as a Knick was when he played off the ball. Id rather Frank turn to a good SG than one coach after another trying to prove they can turn Frank into a great starting PG.

What? Why are you drafting a more NBA ready player? This is not a playoff team that needs to plug 1 hole in their rotation. High ceiling potential is exactly what the Knicks need IMHO. Same as when you draft a guy like KP.

And do you really think Frank would have lasted anywhere near the second round?

Frank isnt playing well enough to start on a division one college team, let alone the NBA. Wouldnt have surprised me. He is a project with a capital P.Most PGs taken this high can generate some offense when needed. Frank cant and thats not why he was drafted.

Knicks dont have all the time in the world to wait on Frank. Starting PG is the most demanding position in the league. Time doesnt stand still while Frank summons up the courage to go for a layup. His development isnt happening in a vaccuum.

KP was thought to be a project a 4, but his height meant he could have an impact sooner rather than later, with his skill set. Drafting a PG with little or no offense at 8, is different. Pairing KP with a PG who could have filled the starting job sooner would have been smarter, because they would have been able to keep other teams from zeroing in on him with an offense they couldnt ignore.

You are really out of your mind with this comment. Not good enough to start division 1? Frank would be a very good college player right now, dominant in fact. Comments like these lose any credibility big time. I can no longer respond to this type of nonsense. Just mindless posting at its finest.

Oh please. A starting PG who is afraid to go for a layup, telegraphs all too many passes, would be coming off the bench. Why? Because he is only 19. Remember that one? Only your favorite excuse. Keep hearing Frank would be a freshman in college. Shows the making of an NBA player, but he also often plays like a college freshman.

I can see it, sorry you cant.

FYI, he started on a Division 1 french team as an 18 year old, which is viewed as much more competitive than Division 1 NCAA. It's a grown man's league that rarely starts or plays young players. So no, he wouldn't be coming off the bench in college. Whatever you are seeing apparently is way too advanced for the basketball world.

If that were true, I would expect to see Frank performing on par with some of the better 19 year olds in this draft, given his pro experience, that they do not have.

Im going by results, not hypotheticals.

It is true, just do a little research if you need to see for yourself. Again, you are judging his stats compared to others. Among the PGs drafted in the top 10, Frank is both the best defensive player and best 3pt shooter. But because his defensive ability doesn't show up like points do, it has you a little confused about his impact compared to others. And i'm not saying he has been good. Just saying he is showing some things that many of us like, and don't necessary show up in his per game averages.

knicks1248 wrote:The knicks play frank because they want to tank, you don't play him a single minute if your trying to win. Maybe if we had 3 all stars on the team you can hide all his flaws, but with the talent he has around him, he's been completely exposed

Knixkik wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

Knixkik wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

Knixkik wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

martin wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

BigDaddyG wrote:

nykshaknbake wrote:He was a bad pick at 8. But that's all water under the bridge. Right now he's a possibly fringe NBA player. Sorry nix, u need more than d at the pg position. I'm not really seeing the bball iq which his proponents say is really high.

Washington Wizards fans were saying similar things about Otto Porter two years ago. Now he's a Max player. It's way too early to tell if it's a bad pick.

Dont believe its unfair to say that while Frank might turn out to be a good player, the Knicks would have been better served drafting a more NBA ready player, considering our needs. And maybe taking Frank in the second round,if still there.

Baker was older, but he was undrafted. Cant really say that Frank's rookie season as the 8th pick, was remarkably better.

Also worth noting that the best move to the rim Frank made as a Knick was when he played off the ball. Id rather Frank turn to a good SG than one coach after another trying to prove they can turn Frank into a great starting PG.

What? Why are you drafting a more NBA ready player? This is not a playoff team that needs to plug 1 hole in their rotation. High ceiling potential is exactly what the Knicks need IMHO. Same as when you draft a guy like KP.

And do you really think Frank would have lasted anywhere near the second round?

Frank isnt playing well enough to start on a division one college team, let alone the NBA. Wouldnt have surprised me. He is a project with a capital P.Most PGs taken this high can generate some offense when needed. Frank cant and thats not why he was drafted.

Knicks dont have all the time in the world to wait on Frank. Starting PG is the most demanding position in the league. Time doesnt stand still while Frank summons up the courage to go for a layup. His development isnt happening in a vaccuum.

KP was thought to be a project a 4, but his height meant he could have an impact sooner rather than later, with his skill set. Drafting a PG with little or no offense at 8, is different. Pairing KP with a PG who could have filled the starting job sooner would have been smarter, because they would have been able to keep other teams from zeroing in on him with an offense they couldnt ignore.

You are really out of your mind with this comment. Not good enough to start division 1? Frank would be a very good college player right now, dominant in fact. Comments like these lose any credibility big time. I can no longer respond to this type of nonsense. Just mindless posting at its finest.

Oh please. A starting PG who is afraid to go for a layup, telegraphs all too many passes, would be coming off the bench. Why? Because he is only 19. Remember that one? Only your favorite excuse. Keep hearing Frank would be a freshman in college. Shows the making of an NBA player, but he also often plays like a college freshman.

I can see it, sorry you cant.

FYI, he started on a Division 1 french team as an 18 year old, which is viewed as much more competitive than Division 1 NCAA. It's a grown man's league that rarely starts or plays young players. So no, he wouldn't be coming off the bench in college. Whatever you are seeing apparently is way too advanced for the basketball world.

If that were true, I would expect to see Frank performing on par with some of the better 19 year olds in this draft, given his pro experience, that they do not have.

Im going by results, not hypotheticals.

It is true, just do a little research if you need to see for yourself. Again, you are judging his stats compared to others. Among the PGs drafted in the top 10, Frank is both the best defensive player and best 3pt shooter. But because his defensive ability doesn't show up like points do, it has you a little confused about his impact compared to others. And i'm not saying he has been good. Just saying he is showing some things that many of us like, and don't necessary show up in his per game averages.

As a defensive specialist, Frank would have been a good choice on a team that already had their PG of the future. The 8th pick should have gone for a player with some offense on tap. For an 8th pick, with pro experience, Frank gives up the ball like a 19 year old.

Low first round pick maybe, but considering we needed a stud PG like a you know what, I thought it was um..too "systemy" a pick.

For mostly a defensive specialist, who can dish, you dont draft that high when the cubbard is bare IMO.

BigDaddyG wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

BigDaddyG wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

Knixkik wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

martin wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

BigDaddyG wrote:

nykshaknbake wrote:He was a bad pick at 8. But that's all water under the bridge. Right now he's a possibly fringe NBA player. Sorry nix, u need more than d at the pg position. I'm not really seeing the bball iq which his proponents say is really high.

Washington Wizards fans were saying similar things about Otto Porter two years ago. Now he's a Max player. It's way too early to tell if it's a bad pick.

Dont believe its unfair to say that while Frank might turn out to be a good player, the Knicks would have been better served drafting a more NBA ready player, considering our needs. And maybe taking Frank in the second round,if still there.

Baker was older, but he was undrafted. Cant really say that Frank's rookie season as the 8th pick, was remarkably better.

Also worth noting that the best move to the rim Frank made as a Knick was when he played off the ball. Id rather Frank turn to a good SG than one coach after another trying to prove they can turn Frank into a great starting PG.

What? Why are you drafting a more NBA ready player? This is not a playoff team that needs to plug 1 hole in their rotation. High ceiling potential is exactly what the Knicks need IMHO. Same as when you draft a guy like KP.

And do you really think Frank would have lasted anywhere near the second round?

Frank isnt playing well enough to start on a division one college team, let alone the NBA. Wouldnt have surprised me. He is a project with a capital P.Most PGs taken this high can generate some offense when needed. Frank cant and thats not why he was drafted.

Knicks dont have all the time in the world to wait on Frank. Starting PG is the most demanding position in the league. Time doesnt stand still while Frank summons up the courage to go for a layup. His development isnt happening in a vaccuum.

KP was thought to be a project a 4, but his height meant he could have an impact sooner rather than later, with his skill set. Drafting a PG with little or no offense at 8, is different. Pairing KP with a PG who could have filled the starting job sooner would have been smarter, because they would have been able to keep other teams from zeroing in on him with an offense they couldnt ignore.

You are really out of your mind with this comment. Not good enough to start division 1? Frank would be a very good college player right now, dominant in fact. Comments like these lose any credibility big time. I can no longer respond to this type of nonsense. Just mindless posting at its finest.

Oh please. A starting PG who is afraid to go for a layup, telegraphs all too many passes, would be coming off the bench. Why? Because he is only 19. Remember that one? Only your favorite excuse. Keep hearing Frank would be a freshman in college. Shows the making of an NBA player, but he also often plays like a college freshman.

I can see it, sorry you cant.

Sure, he only helped lead his team to Championship series last year. Your hate for Frank aside, do you still think we should avoid the tank? You still sound like you want us to go all in for the 8th playoff spot?

The only thing I hate is hearing posters spend so much time defending a truly underwhelming season to this point for such a high draft pick.

If Frank's accomplishments in France carried any weight, we would be seeing it here. This was supposed to be a big reason why he was drafted.

If your default excuse is that Frank is only 19, dont be insulted if someone points out when he plays like he is. Cant have it both ways.

The "we don't have time" comment. We have nothing but time for a minimum of two years. Frank's has shown plenty of flashes with his passing off the pick and roll, defense and vision. There are plenty of highlights videos for me to post to make my case. Frank has hit a rough patch. He's rookie. It happens. I can't deal with posters who are too shortsighted to see the forest from the trees. O f Frank is playing like this at this point next year, then there's is cause for concern. Frank is playing poorly now, yes. He has also played brilliantly at points. Can't call him a bust or a reach at this point. Development takes time. Good thing you weren't GM when the Mavs drafted Dirk.

Again, Dirk isnt a PG. Frank isnt even comfortable trying a layup.We need a quality PG to develop on KP's timetable, not Frank's. Still hasnt been determined that Frank is a PG. Meanwhile, we still need a good, young, starting PG.

GustavBahler wrote:

BigDaddyG wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

BigDaddyG wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

Knixkik wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

martin wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

BigDaddyG wrote:

nykshaknbake wrote:He was a bad pick at 8. But that's all water under the bridge. Right now he's a possibly fringe NBA player. Sorry nix, u need more than d at the pg position. I'm not really seeing the bball iq which his proponents say is really high.

Washington Wizards fans were saying similar things about Otto Porter two years ago. Now he's a Max player. It's way too early to tell if it's a bad pick.

Dont believe its unfair to say that while Frank might turn out to be a good player, the Knicks would have been better served drafting a more NBA ready player, considering our needs. And maybe taking Frank in the second round,if still there.

Baker was older, but he was undrafted. Cant really say that Frank's rookie season as the 8th pick, was remarkably better.

Also worth noting that the best move to the rim Frank made as a Knick was when he played off the ball. Id rather Frank turn to a good SG than one coach after another trying to prove they can turn Frank into a great starting PG.

What? Why are you drafting a more NBA ready player? This is not a playoff team that needs to plug 1 hole in their rotation. High ceiling potential is exactly what the Knicks need IMHO. Same as when you draft a guy like KP.

And do you really think Frank would have lasted anywhere near the second round?

Frank isnt playing well enough to start on a division one college team, let alone the NBA. Wouldnt have surprised me. He is a project with a capital P.Most PGs taken this high can generate some offense when needed. Frank cant and thats not why he was drafted.

Knicks dont have all the time in the world to wait on Frank. Starting PG is the most demanding position in the league. Time doesnt stand still while Frank summons up the courage to go for a layup. His development isnt happening in a vaccuum.

KP was thought to be a project a 4, but his height meant he could have an impact sooner rather than later, with his skill set. Drafting a PG with little or no offense at 8, is different. Pairing KP with a PG who could have filled the starting job sooner would have been smarter, because they would have been able to keep other teams from zeroing in on him with an offense they couldnt ignore.

You are really out of your mind with this comment. Not good enough to start division 1? Frank would be a very good college player right now, dominant in fact. Comments like these lose any credibility big time. I can no longer respond to this type of nonsense. Just mindless posting at its finest.

Oh please. A starting PG who is afraid to go for a layup, telegraphs all too many passes, would be coming off the bench. Why? Because he is only 19. Remember that one? Only your favorite excuse. Keep hearing Frank would be a freshman in college. Shows the making of an NBA player, but he also often plays like a college freshman.

I can see it, sorry you cant.

Sure, he only helped lead his team to Championship series last year. Your hate for Frank aside, do you still think we should avoid the tank? You still sound like you want us to go all in for the 8th playoff spot?

The only thing I hate is hearing posters spend so much time defending a truly underwhelming season to this point for such a high draft pick.

If Frank's accomplishments in France carried any weight, we would be seeing it here. This was supposed to be a big reason why he was drafted.

If your default excuse is that Frank is only 19, dont be insulted if someone points out when he plays like he is. Cant have it both ways.

The "we don't have time" comment. We have nothing but time for a minimum of two years. Frank's has shown plenty of flashes with his passing off the pick and roll, defense and vision. There are plenty of highlights videos for me to post to make my case. Frank has hit a rough patch. He's rookie. It happens. I can't deal with posters who are too shortsighted to see the forest from the trees. O f Frank is playing like this at this point next year, then there's is cause for concern. Frank is playing poorly now, yes. He has also played brilliantly at points. Can't call him a bust or a reach at this point. Development takes time. Good thing you weren't GM when the Mavs drafted Dirk.

Again, Dirk isnt a PG. Frank isnt even comfortable trying a layup.We need a quality PG to develop on KP's timetable, not Frank's. Still hasnt been determined that Frank is a PG. Meanwhile, we still need a good, young, starting PG.