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Panos
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2/17/2018 2:39 PM LAST EDITED: 2/17/2018 2:45 PM
nixluva wrote:Panos wrote:nixluva wrote:Panos wrote:Frank N. is Michael Sweetney, 2017 edition. He'll be out of the league once his rookie contract is up.You know NOTHING! Tony Allen made a career Off Defense and hes not even close to the passer Frank is. Guys like Frank tend to stick in the NBA! Fans are assuming Frank isnt going to improve his offense but chances are he will.
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Nalod
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2/17/2018 2:49 PM
Pano's,
We have extreme opinions. I suppose I am guilty of pushing back on the negative but in truth I don't read Nixluva's post because they are so one sided. |
martin
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2/17/2018 2:50 PM
Panos wrote:nixluva wrote:Panos wrote:nixluva wrote:Panos wrote:Frank N. is Michael Sweetney, 2017 edition. He'll be out of the league once his rookie contract is up.You know NOTHING! Tony Allen made a career Off Defense and hes not even close to the passer Frank is. Guys like Frank tend to stick in the NBA! Fans are assuming Frank isnt going to improve his offense but chances are he will. Not for nothing but if you are going to poo-poo Nix about anything he says about a player then expect to get tons of **** for posts like this: Panos wrote:Frank N. is Michael Sweetney, 2017 edition. He'll be out of the league once his rookie contract is up. Official sponsor of the PURE KNICKS LOVE Program
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Panos
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2/17/2018 2:55 PM LAST EDITED: 2/17/2018 3:00 PM
Nixluva from thread: "Jerian Grant Is Our Starting Lead Guard"
nixluva wrote:I love this kid. I was so happy when they announced we got him in the draft. Now watching him play it just makes me even more happy cuz we really needed a guard for our future. No more TD or Felton types. A real guard that can do the things this team needs. I could kiss Phil for giving us what we've needed for so long. I'm pulling for him to win the starting job cuz I think he's our best option, even as a rookie. http://www.ultimateknicks.com/forum/topic.asp?t=52075&page=1 |
GustavBahler
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2/17/2018 2:56 PM
martin wrote:GustavBahler wrote:martin wrote:GustavBahler wrote:martin wrote:knicks1248 wrote:StarksEwing1 wrote:knicks1248 wrote:again thats your opinion. But saying that the knicks dont have faith in him is inaccurate unless you have some inside info or something which i doubtNalod wrote:knicks1248 wrote:200 post about a kid who is avg 5 points..The bottom line is, if he doesn't show a vast improvement next season he will be traded. Clearly the knicks don't have a lot of faith in him, or else they wouldn't be scouring the nba circut's for cheap pgs to help Thats fair, dont believe Im alone on that. Most lottery picks are thought to be more NBA ready, faster to step into their role. When I watch Frank play, listen to him, dont be surprised if Frank doesnt show the ability to be a go to scorer because he doesnt feel he needs to be one. Thats the big question for me. Will Frank be satisfied if his game becomes more efficient but doesnt expand much beyond what we see now? I honestly dont know the answer. Check out the article on DSJ I posted in the thread about knowing his dribble drive sets up the rest of his game, helps the team. Im not so sure Frank agrees. Havent seen any indication. |
Panos
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2/17/2018 2:59 PM LAST EDITED: 2/17/2018 3:04 PM
martin wrote:Not for nothing but if you are going to poo-poo Nix about anything he says about a player then expect to get tons of **** for posts like this:Panos wrote:Frank N. is Michael Sweetney, 2017 edition. He'll be out of the league once his rookie contract is up. I've already said, that I'll be happy to eat crow if I'm wrong about Frank. I've said it since the start of the season. It's not just that he's "raw" offensively. He has no eye of the tiger. He's got no balls. That has nothing to do with age. I was at MSG the night the Jazz came to visit. Donovan Mitchell has "it". He's got guts. Maybe he doesn't become an all-star, maybe he does. But he's definitely an NBA player. |
Panos
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2/17/2018 3:07 PM LAST EDITED: 2/17/2018 3:08 PM
Nixluva from thread: "Jerian Grant Is Our Starting Lead Guard"
nixluva wrote:I love this kid. I was so happy when they announced we got him in the draft. Now watching him play it just makes me even more happy cuz we really needed a guard for our future. No more TD or Felton types. A real guard that can do the things this team needs. I could kiss Phil for giving us what we've needed for so long. I'm pulling for him to win the starting job cuz I think he's our best option, even as a rookie. http://www.ultimateknicks.com/forum/topic.asp?t=52075&page=1 Nixluva from thread: "Starting Lineup - Douglas, Fields, Melo, Amare, Chandler" nixluva wrote:Watch out for Iman. The kid is going to be part of this rotation. He's got the kind of talent to be a scorer in this offense. He can get in the lane and finish and he'll be strong on the break. Once he gets adjusted to the speed of the game I think he'll be just fine. He has the handle and speed to get wherever he wants to be on the court and that's a key skill. http://www.ultimateknicks.com/forum/topic.asp?t=40134&page=3 I'm sure I could find the same crap about Toney Douglas, Langston Galloway, etc, etc. But you get the point. |
knicks1248
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2/17/2018 3:19 PM
The knicks should trade frank to the spurs for their first rnd pick, he would have a better development process over there for a number of reasons
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knicks1248
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2/17/2018 3:23 PM
this is even more disturbing
After playing Friday in the Rising Stars Challenge, Ntilikina revealed he will spend most of the offseason training in France. It’s a bit of a surprise since his development after a modestly successful rookie season is vital to the organization’s growth. ES
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martin
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2/17/2018 3:24 PM
GustavBahler wrote:martin wrote:GustavBahler wrote:martin wrote:GustavBahler wrote:martin wrote:knicks1248 wrote:StarksEwing1 wrote:knicks1248 wrote:again thats your opinion. But saying that the knicks dont have faith in him is inaccurate unless you have some inside info or something which i doubtNalod wrote:knicks1248 wrote:200 post about a kid who is avg 5 points..The bottom line is, if he doesn't show a vast improvement next season he will be traded. Clearly the knicks don't have a lot of faith in him, or else they wouldn't be scouring the nba circut's for cheap pgs to help As a whole, most lottery picks should be more NBA ready, but we should also know when they are not and adjust accordingly. Was KP ready to start? Should Frank be by way of 8th pick? Do we consider body type, age, and in this particular case, Frank's unique background? Should Kobe have been picked earlier? Probably. And if so, should we have expected him to start and produce right away or do we set our expectations differently and let the kid marinate? Official sponsor of the PURE KNICKS LOVE Program
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StarksEwing1
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2/17/2018 3:34 PM
knicks1248 wrote:The knicks should trade frank to the spurs for their first rnd pick, he would have a better development process over there for a number of reasonsthe knicks should hire you...you seem to know more about frank and his future than they do |
martin
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2/17/2018 3:37 PM
knicks1248 wrote:this is even more disturbing Is that what you got out of that statement? Frank probably hasn't made summer plans yet. Knicks haven't made summer plans with Frank yet. And then a reporter asks if he plans to play in the Summer League. Frank: "I dunno". LOL Official sponsor of the PURE KNICKS LOVE Program
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Knixkik
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2/17/2018 3:37 PM
It's crazy this thread has turned into what it has. Only Knicks fans would write off a 19 year old after 50 games. Some of the stuff i am reading, literally the reason you can't rebuild here. Some will never learn!
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EnySpree
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2/17/2018 3:42 PM
I'm tired of repeating the same **** over and over.
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fitzfarm
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2/17/2018 4:08 PM
Knixkik wrote:It's crazy this thread has turned into what it has. Only Knicks fans would write off a 19 year old after 50 games. Some of the stuff i am reading, literally the reason you can't rebuild here. Some will never learn! Agreed, frank is doing good for a 19 year old rookie from France, this is a big change for him personally and professionally. I think he should start the rest of the way to build up confidence with more PT.... Franks defense is awesome, court vision is underrated , solid rebounder for a PG. Frank has work to do as he should for a 19 year old, horny needs to let frank run wild, he looks so tentative. I’d like to see frank post up his man ala mark Jackson. Frank is a big PG who needs to learn how to use his larger body as a advantage to getting to the hoop and collapse the defense.. Get him a shooting coach the form is there just needs consistency, and a conditioning coach for this off season. Frank crossed all the boxes of a great player especially defensively. Hopeful the knicks can develop frank and allow him to be his best self on the court. |
Bizzy211
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2/17/2018 4:21 PM
I personally don't feel like there's anything wrong with saying Frank is not that good and doesn't have the motor/drive/eye of the tiger/it factor to be good in this league currently or in the future. Or Frank is going to be good, just give the 19 year old some time. It's just an opinion.
Some like him, some don't... I think that's just attributed to how he's played the game so far. Not one person in this thread can predict the future and not one person has been wrong because we are all just stating opinions... maybe all of our responses should start off with the following words... "in my humble opinion...." So with that said.... In my humble opinion... Frank sucks! Wasted pick at the 8th spot. Bizzy
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CrushAlot
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2/17/2018 4:22 PM
martin wrote:I am disappointed that he is not going to be in NY for the summer. It sounds like he is pretty homesick in the Popper article. He may need to go home and be with family. I don't think he will benefit as much as he would if he stayed in NY and worked on his game.knicks1248 wrote:this is even more disturbing I'm tired,I'm tired, I'm so tired right now......Kristaps Porzingis 1/3/18
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Jmpasq
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2/17/2018 4:23 PM
Frank was easily the worst looking player on the world team in the rising stars game. Frank looked terrible on offense and no one was playing any defense.
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martin
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2/17/2018 4:37 PM
CrushAlot wrote:martin wrote:I am disappointed that he is not going to be in NY for the summer. It sounds like he is pretty homesick in the Popper article. He may need to go home and be with family. I don't think he will benefit as much as he would if he stayed in NY and worked on his game.knicks1248 wrote:this is even more disturbing Crush, you do this a lot and I am a bit surprised about your assumptions and where they take you. You KNOW that NY reporters, both in headlines as well as pure reporting within articles, will say one thing while misleading with another. You just ASSUMED that Frank will not be in NY for the summer, weather that means days, weeks or the whole summer, I do not know. Maybe he will be in France for the whole summer, half the summer, don't know; pretty sure Frank doesn't either at this point. Reporters just shoved a mic in his face and started asking him questions that he probably hasn't spent much time thinking about and we KNOW that he hasn't sat down with the Knicks to go back and forth on it. He misses home, I'd want to go back for some time too. Frank demonstrated to us that he played in Melo's pickup games and trained hard in NY after his playoffs. He also came to NY in-between playoff games. Let's see how this plays out before you get disappointed in something that hasn't even happened. Actual quotes from Frank: “I will probably come back home, but I will take care of working on my game,’’ Ntilikina said at Staples Center. “I will make sure I will come back stronger and even better.” He is literally saying that he will PROBABLY go back to France AND come back to NY. Probably go back?!?! You are disappointed in probably? Are you similarly super happy that is has already indicated he will come back to NY? At this point in the season, do you really think the Knicks, Frank, Frank's family, Frank's agents have figured out what he is going to do during the summer? At all? Official sponsor of the PURE KNICKS LOVE Program
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