If anything patience has been running out because how long. They won’t win because they just aren’t organized. They won’t play the young players they treat and alienate players all the time. They tell the public a player hasn’t earned his right to play but they call up G league players and play them heavy minutes. See where the disorganized team is going. They complicate a young players future by add additional young player that play the same position. Leaves fans head scratching with moves that make absolutely no sense.

It’s not about patience it’s dealing with constant ineptness from top to bottom.

Be patient with I T,

Be patient with Walsh,

Grunwald said Fck being patient (knicks become relevant again for a min)

Be patient with Phil.

Inheriting a struggle franchise and not be able to point the ship in the right direction out the gate is a problem, were about to nose dive from the looks of it.

Bad decisions out of the gate

Thinking kp was ready to take the reins when phil's last words were, "HE's NOT READY" (Thats like clinton leaving the white house and telling Bush, "focus on osama bin laden" and they ignored him for the most part)

Thinking Frank was ready, when every indication was, he wasn't ready for no significant role. His anemic stats could have told you that alone..

KP4Life wrote:Is it because it's a major city? You don't hear the Philly fans complaining about the years of losing or even LA. It's almost like New Yorkers have to win everything right now or every player or coach sucks.

Take UltimateKnicks as a site as an example.

How many people visit the site casually?
Out of those, how many stay to visit regularly?
Out of those, how many bother to visit the forums?
Out of those, how many stay to visit the forums regularly?
Out of those, how many register to post?
Out of those how many actually do post?
Out of those, how many post with any frequency to establish a pattern and rapport on the board?
Out of those, how many say inane things about the NBA and the Knicks?

15 douchebags out of a 100,000 strong just mean those are the 15 loudest douchebags in the room.

Without inane posts, no one would have anything to talk about. Unlike MLB and the NFL, the roster sizes are too small and the draft and FA are too small and short to really generate much interesting discussion. There is not enough legit NBA news to cover a 365/52/24/7 type cycle.

The structure of the NBA, to be totally fair, is unlike any of the other major sports. It has more in line with figure skating and American Idol ( marketing over competition, narrative over merit, individual branding over teamwork, rigging, network influence, corruption) than it would MLB and the NFL. In the NBA, when you are good, you are good for a long time, when you are bad, you are bad for a long time. Most people aren't built for that as fans.

knicks1248 wrote:It was be patient with Layden,

Be patient with I T,

Be patient with Walsh,

Grunwald said Fck being patient (knicks become irrelevant again for a min)

Be patient with Phil.

Inheriting a struggle franchise and not be able to point the ship in the right direction out the gate is a problem, were about to nose dive from the looks of it.

Bad decisions out of the gate

Thinking kp was ready to take the reins when phil's last words were, "HE's NOT READY" (Thats like clinton leaving the white house and telling Bush, "focus on osama bin laden" and they ignored him for the most part)

Thinking Frank was ready, when every indication was, he wasn't ready for no significant role. His anemic stats could have told you that alone..

Yep I'm tired of losing, I'm sick of waiting 2-3 years for contracts to run out before we can actually make a move again, I'm tired of not having a clear plan. We say we are rebuilding but young players don't play and we have no cap flexibility.
Knick fans are getting pissed because we have started over how many frickin times since Ewing, that isn't impatience

Jmpasq wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:It was be patient with Layden,

Be patient with I T,

Be patient with Walsh,

Grunwald said Fck being patient (knicks become relevant again for a min)

Be patient with Phil.

Inheriting a struggle franchise and not be able to point the ship in the right direction out the gate is a problem, were about to nose dive from the looks of it.

Bad decisions out of the gate

Thinking kp was ready to take the reins when phil's last words were, "HE's NOT READY" (Thats like clinton leaving the white house and telling Bush, "focus on osama bin laden" and they ignored him for the most part)

Thinking Frank was ready, when every indication was, he wasn't ready for no significant role. His anemic stats could have told you that alone..

Yep I'm tired of losing, I'm sick of waiting 2-3 years for contracts to run out before we can actually make a move again, I'm tired of not having a clear plan. We say we are rebuilding but young players don't play and we have no cap flexibility.
Knick fans are getting pissed because we have started over how many frickin times since Ewing, that isn't impatience

The front office likes to give us the KG Pump Fake, and so many people fall for it

Add it all up and you have the perfect poster child for the zero patience fan: KNICKS1248. A redundant criticizer of all that is wrong but lacks the scope of the whole process. Non of us are truly acccountable for our ideas or concepts. Briggs is hailed as a “Good fan” because he throws out lots of Ideas and feels like “at least I’m trying”! knicks1248 wants to be convinced otherwise he collects the past failures as continued for no reason other than his experience. Bonn is a stats guy, at least that is measurable but lacks notion that a player can improve.

Frank actually produces fine measurable contributions but he is not “exciting” to some. Knicks1248 has repeatingly said he is what he is. Kid would be a freashman in the NCAA but since he is not Trae Young (Struggling last 4 games bigly) then frank fails the eye test.

I don’t know the future any more than the rest of you or am happy with he current state f things.
But I’m not letting emotions get the best of me and rant like a fearful woeful victim. I choose to follow this team and apply hope as I wish.

I applaud Knicks not taking the safe route and went upside with KP and with Frank. The future will tell the tale.

Nalod wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:You're confusing front office impatience with fan impatience. Fans will be as patient as the front office forces them to be.

Well said. Knicks not trading picks and attempting to yield off a low base of their own picks is a turnaround from decades of using a star to sell tickets as a priority. (Dice Marbury, Amare, Melo).
Eric Bledsoe a good player for Frank would be consistent with that thinking. Bledsoe is 28. Good player, but short sighted.