MS wrote:That’s literally how embarrassing this garbage franchise has become when we are happy our gym didn’t just rush to make a terrible deal and acquire Ryan Anderson and allow Melo to hold the franchise hostage for the second time.Lou Williams just signed a 3 year 24MM deal and he’s better than THJR. Still hard to justify the contract we have . He’s been injured most of the year and still makes boneheaded decisions night after night. Is he a conerstone? No. He looks like a great 4th option. Lakers and Sixers both put 1 year deals on the table. Evans who was a better player signed for $3.1MM. The Knicks have Ron ****ing Baker 2 years 10MM that can’t be stressed enough. We didn’t have room for Holiday on a bargain contract, but let’s give the 15th player on the bench a guaranteed deal that eats into our cap.
Perry had some strong moves with Jack and Beasley, the Melo trade was solid for the Knicks.
But, part of running a competent front office is creating a roster that allows for defined roles. Part of the reason Cleveland is terrible is they have Thomas, Rose, Wade, Shumpert, Calderon, JR, Crowder, all redundant pieces. We overloaded the front court and didn’t think to bring in a PG and were lucky Jack turned out to be competent.
Frank, the jury is out, but 19 year olds make athletic plays, Ive yet to see Frank take it to the rack with purpose. So right now the faith is on hold for the next 24 hours.
If this team decides to play hard and **** up our draft position and fall in the draft like we do every year, this team is what it is again. Groundhog Day.
Rebuild, bring in overpriced veterans, sign big men with injury risks, Dice, Curry, Amare, Noah. Compete, lose at chance at Towns, compete lose a chance at Tatum, Fox. This is our last best chance to bring in talent before the 2019 free agent glass.
Time is up.
This response is to many of the preceding posts;
Trip, Ntilikina is our remaining Unicorn. Once his potential begins to be realized he will have been the cream of last year's lottery crop. Mills went to Europe to scout him and the FO as a consensus picked him. The inevitable parade of armchair Nostradamuses claiming other picks coulda/shoulda/woulda been better are not worth the noise they make.
Kanter is a pleasant by-product of the toxic Melo-pit.
Jackson did not leave "a huge mess". Melo was garbage and is no longer here. Phil's tenure managed a rebuild of sorts under the covers - incomplete, yes, but effective nonetheless.
MS - THJ, I think is one of those nepotistic signings very much along the lines of Aus-thin Rivers in LA. For a while I was willing to eat crow when THJ was playing well but the ugly underside of him continues to make me queasy in a bad way.
Beasley is a Knick based on Kurt Rambis' advocacy to sign him. Rambis bashers hate to give credit where credit is due but that's where Perry got the notion. Jack was blind luck.
Let me say this again, Ntilikina is our remaining Unicorn. This team needs to be rebuilt around Ntilikina rather than any pipe-dreams about KP - our Unicorn with a broken horn. KP may or may not come back as a compelling force but wasting two years to find out he isn't would be adding insult to injury.
Our messed up draft positions in the last two drafts allowed the Knicks to draft two of the very best players in either draft. had they had the first pick, we'd be pissed with what came home. Knicks need to play basketball and let the chips fall as they do. we still have Isiah and Gaines for the sniff tests.
Trading for overpriced assets will succeed or fail based on the wisdom of the trade. Over-the-hill former stars would be a disaster. Young up-and-coming veterans, not so much.
K1248 - Part of the salesmanship in trading is asking for the sky. Ainge is asking for a blue-chip vet AND a first-rounder for Smart. If he gets it he's a genius. You ripping Mills/Perry for the asking price - WHY? No, seriously,... WHY? What's to lose? Debbie Downer is an optimist compared to your drivel.
Nalod - If I remember correctly, Bargnani was the by-product of the Knicks FO being held hostage by the Player agency running amok. Phil gets no credit for anything here but he showed them the door and cleaned up the FO nicely much to the chagrin of the media, insider information leakers, and the entourage of idiots surrounding MSG.
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