Knixkik wrote:Keep these names in mind.

Jeremy Lamb
Terrence Ross
Alec Burks

These are 3 guys who fit the criteria of athletic wings, who have contracts that expire in 2019, and are age 26 or younger to be considered for part of the future. Not saying all of them would be. Ross is hurt now, but it would be about next year. All 3 have contracts that would match up to a deal involving KOQ, McDermott, and any other minor assets that would need to be included. I like Lamb the best, and would be willing to part with a possible 2nd round pick. But these are guys who can definitely be had, and would improve the wing position without sacrificing long-term salary or requiring a 1st round pick to deal for. These are 3 small market teams that could use the cap flexibility and tax savings that we can probably offer them.

Those names are not enticing in the slightest. But I do agree with the 2019 goal for cap space.

Knixkik wrote:

newyorknewyork wrote:

Knixkik wrote:Keep these names in mind.

Jeremy Lamb
Terrence Ross
Alec Burks

These are 3 guys who fit the criteria of athletic wings, who have contracts that expire in 2019, and are age 26 or younger to be considered for part of the future. Not saying all of them would be. Ross is hurt now, but it would be about next year. All 3 have contracts that would match up to a deal involving KOQ, McDermott, and any other minor assets that would need to be included. I like Lamb the best, and would be willing to part with a possible 2nd round pick. But these are guys who can definitely be had, and would improve the wing position without sacrificing long-term salary or requiring a 1st round pick to deal for. These are 3 small market teams that could use the cap flexibility and tax savings that we can probably offer them.

Those names are not enticing in the slightest. But I do agree with the 2019 goal for cap space.

I agree, they really aren't. But they offer some improvement at our biggest pain-point. We need to get more explosive at the wing, and these are some guys who at least give us some improvement off the bench.

Will they get us to the playoffs in 2020? The whole FA narrative is laughable.

Knixkik wrote:

fwk00 wrote:

Knixkik wrote:

newyorknewyork wrote:

Knixkik wrote:Keep these names in mind.

Jeremy Lamb
Terrence Ross
Alec Burks

These are 3 guys who fit the criteria of athletic wings, who have contracts that expire in 2019, and are age 26 or younger to be considered for part of the future. Not saying all of them would be. Ross is hurt now, but it would be about next year. All 3 have contracts that would match up to a deal involving KOQ, McDermott, and any other minor assets that would need to be included. I like Lamb the best, and would be willing to part with a possible 2nd round pick. But these are guys who can definitely be had, and would improve the wing position without sacrificing long-term salary or requiring a 1st round pick to deal for. These are 3 small market teams that could use the cap flexibility and tax savings that we can probably offer them.

Those names are not enticing in the slightest. But I do agree with the 2019 goal for cap space.

I agree, they really aren't. But they offer some improvement at our biggest pain-point. We need to get more explosive at the wing, and these are some guys who at least give us some improvement off the bench.

Will they get us to the playoffs in 2020? The whole FA narrative is laughable.

It's about improving where possible, but maintaining flexibility. Hopefully our current group can improve and get to the playoffs.

Flexibility for what exactly? A savior? We do this dance every year. How about incrementally upping the talent while we have desirable assets to trade NOW?

fwk00 wrote:

Knixkik wrote:

fwk00 wrote:

Knixkik wrote:

newyorknewyork wrote:

Knixkik wrote:Keep these names in mind.

Jeremy Lamb
Terrence Ross
Alec Burks

These are 3 guys who fit the criteria of athletic wings, who have contracts that expire in 2019, and are age 26 or younger to be considered for part of the future. Not saying all of them would be. Ross is hurt now, but it would be about next year. All 3 have contracts that would match up to a deal involving KOQ, McDermott, and any other minor assets that would need to be included. I like Lamb the best, and would be willing to part with a possible 2nd round pick. But these are guys who can definitely be had, and would improve the wing position without sacrificing long-term salary or requiring a 1st round pick to deal for. These are 3 small market teams that could use the cap flexibility and tax savings that we can probably offer them.

Those names are not enticing in the slightest. But I do agree with the 2019 goal for cap space.

I agree, they really aren't. But they offer some improvement at our biggest pain-point. We need to get more explosive at the wing, and these are some guys who at least give us some improvement off the bench.

Will they get us to the playoffs in 2020? The whole FA narrative is laughable.

It's about improving where possible, but maintaining flexibility. Hopefully our current group can improve and get to the playoffs.

Flexibility for what exactly? A savior? We do this dance every year. How about incrementally upping the talent while we have desirable assets to trade NOW?

Not a savior, it's just not all about being locked into something that has a ceiling. Maybe flexibility can help us facilitate a large deal that adds young talent, extra picks, whatever. Obviously if a young player on a big contract can be added, you do it. We aren't just talking about free agency here.

fwk00 wrote:

Knixkik wrote:

fwk00 wrote:

Knixkik wrote:

newyorknewyork wrote:

Knixkik wrote:Keep these names in mind.

Jeremy Lamb
Terrence Ross
Alec Burks

These are 3 guys who fit the criteria of athletic wings, who have contracts that expire in 2019, and are age 26 or younger to be considered for part of the future. Not saying all of them would be. Ross is hurt now, but it would be about next year. All 3 have contracts that would match up to a deal involving KOQ, McDermott, and any other minor assets that would need to be included. I like Lamb the best, and would be willing to part with a possible 2nd round pick. But these are guys who can definitely be had, and would improve the wing position without sacrificing long-term salary or requiring a 1st round pick to deal for. These are 3 small market teams that could use the cap flexibility and tax savings that we can probably offer them.

Those names are not enticing in the slightest. But I do agree with the 2019 goal for cap space.

I agree, they really aren't. But they offer some improvement at our biggest pain-point. We need to get more explosive at the wing, and these are some guys who at least give us some improvement off the bench.

Will they get us to the playoffs in 2020? The whole FA narrative is laughable.

It's about improving where possible, but maintaining flexibility. Hopefully our current group can improve and get to the playoffs.

Flexibility for what exactly? A savior? We do this dance every year. How about incrementally upping the talent while we have desirable assets to trade NOW?

You need to use every possible avenue to build a team up. FA is one of them. Doesn't mean we trade draft picks or young assets to make space. But if we can trade Lee in a deal that takes no salary in 2019 and add a future asset. We should do that even though it hurts us presently. Also doesn't mean we don't add any contract. Just that we should be very selective with who we are spending money on for the long term.

Cap space also doesn't only mean adding FAs. Cap space means making deals and not having to match salaries. It means being able to eat an expiring contract for future picks and just buying a player out if you can't land any FAs worth while. Example you have 30mil in cap space. You eat a contract worth 14mil with 1 yr left for a draft pick. You still have 16mil left to play with for a player you could target today. And you get that 14mil off the books the next season. Plus you added another draft pick.

SupremeCommander wrote:

Vmart wrote:Free Agency is fools gold. The Knicks shouldn’t even look at free agency and continue to think draft and other outside the box ideas on improving the team. Player development is the key to the Knicks success.

we have more resources than other teams... the CBA basically makes it so the Knicks can't use the resources in free agency. The Knicks Westchester facility should be so amazing that all the developmental guys stand in line to affiliate with the Knicks... our international scouting should be the envy of the league... our analytics should be the best in class... our developmental coaches should be better than the other teams...

Why isn't this the case? I mean, I've said this here before. We should have more scouts than any other team. We should have better development staff, more staff.

But we don't, and I don't understand why.

franco12 wrote:

SupremeCommander wrote:

Vmart wrote:Free Agency is fools gold. The Knicks shouldn’t even look at free agency and continue to think draft and other outside the box ideas on improving the team. Player development is the key to the Knicks success.

we have more resources than other teams... the CBA basically makes it so the Knicks can't use the resources in free agency. The Knicks Westchester facility should be so amazing that all the developmental guys stand in line to affiliate with the Knicks... our international scouting should be the envy of the league... our analytics should be the best in class... our developmental coaches should be better than the other teams...

Why isn't this the case? I mean, I've said this here before. We should have more scouts than any other team. We should have better development staff, more staff.

But we don't, and I don't understand why.

I think the Knicks do all that honestly. All the research in the world, all the planning for two years out, and so on has been done and tried and its NY shelf life has expired.

Phil set the table nicely. Now is the time to start tasting victories.

Two suggestions all over UK -> Oubre and Rubio - we have the gods to get those deals done. Enough navel gazing. It doesn't have to be those two but... MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOVE.

arkrud wrote:-snip-

Fans obviously want some reason to watch the game, to root for the team which can win any given game, which get to off-season every year, and competes for the chip.
So fans want something to be done right now to give some hope, some crazy dream, some new Lin-Burke-Somebody-sanity-insanity...
GM and Pres cannot think in this lines, and when the do... we get what we get with the Knicks.
I do not expect any moves before deadline and I think this is the best news we can get.

Well I respect your opinion but I've been a Knicks fan since the late 60's and for the past couple of decades have had a really hard time remaining a fan.

IOW, I'm not some starry-eyed fan looking for a quick fix. IMO, standing still is just a euphemism for another wasted year - not even a good reason to watch the remainder of the season.

Oh, and scratch next year off too - we're now waiting til 2019 and beyond.

No. No. No.

If O'Quinn, McDermott, Kanter, and Jack will all just expire it seems to me you move those who have no future here. If we're going to lose we can lose with fresh faces. And if those fresh faces just happen to play to win, I'm a much happier fan. There's no "sanity" or starphuck fix in this thinking.

As for Hernangomez and the pick. They mean nothing now - do you think I'll miss either if the return is a young SF who lifts the team? Or maybe a player or two who today are as good as that pick will ever be?

Time is NOT on our side. We've done this stuff over and over and over. Building and winning is about reasonable risk-taking. There is talent out there that's available, can improve our team, and that we can afford.

There's NO excuse not to go after it. None.

Vmart wrote:Free Agency is fools gold. The Knicks shouldn’t even look at free agency and continue to think draft and other outside the box ideas on improving the team. Player development is the key to the Knicks success.