Thanks Briggs. The order on the first six is nearly interchangeable. I’ve watched Carter and like him increasingly.
Knicks could do worse and hopefully he will be there 10-12

Briggs, we've both been high on Brunson all year. In response to another poster, he's been mock'd between mid to late 2nd round all year. He was a big time recruit coming out of Chicago in high school and immediately excelled as a frosh at Nova on a very, very good team. The speed of the game, and increased speed when you go up a level just comes natural to some guys, and he's one of them. Every level he's played at, his teams have been as competitive as they come. He's a winner. You want guys like that, especially at the point on your squad.

I agree w/ your top 10 for the most part. However, one guy on there that I think I'd move up, just b/c his floor is higher than some of the others is Jaren Jackson of MSU. He's going to win Big 10 Defensive POY this year. Even if he plays limited minutes to start his NBA career, guys like that immediately make your team better.

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Knixkik wrote:

Welpee wrote:Didn't they say 2015 was such a deep draft? How's that turning out?

It's still early but that draft was very good. Towns and Porzingis are possible franchise players, already all-stars. Booker and Turner have star potential and guys like Russell and a few others still have pretty good upside. A couple busts, but that's every draft.

Couple of busts? Yeah it still early but: 2 of the first 3 picks have already been traded. Hezonia, Johnson, Cauley-Stein, Mudiay, Winslow, Kaminsky have been disappointments, and this is just off the top of my head. Almost every year leading up to a draft we hear about all the studs on the board, later to learn it didn't work out that way.

But like you said, there's time for some if these guys to find there niche.

Yeah...the top 10 for 2015 is spotty, but I still use the 5 year rule, and we have 2 more seasons to go.

I have to note that many of the players who Phil didn't take, had fans on UK, and at least so far, KP is looking like a very solid pick, who I believe is still only playing at about 60-70% of what he will eventually be as a player.

Hezonja, Mudiay, Johnson, Frank K, Stein, and Winslow have all underperformed, and while they have time to improve, I don't think any will be better than KP in the long run.

These drafts are crap shoots. I know that I seem to have overrated 2015. Maybe it ends up as a very good draft, the the mediocrity of the top 10 so far, except for Towns and KP, is rather strange for a draft that some considered special.

Trae Young is too small to play in the nba, he will be exposed easily. You need 4 plus defenders around him to make it work.

Welpee wrote:

Knixkik wrote:

Welpee wrote:Didn't they say 2015 was such a deep draft? How's that turning out?

It's still early but that draft was very good. Towns and Porzingis are possible franchise players, already all-stars. Booker and Turner have star potential and guys like Russell and a few others still have pretty good upside. A couple busts, but that's every draft.

Couple of busts? Yeah it still early but: 2 of the first 3 picks have already been traded. Hezonia, Johnson, Cauley-Stein, Mudiay, Winslow, Kaminsky have been disappointments, and this is just off the top of my head. Almost every year leading up to a draft we hear about all the studs on the board, later to learn it didn't work out that way.

But like you said, there's time for some if these guys to find there niche.

I would use the 5 year rule here...even though I agree that many guys we considered sure things have not panned out.

The real issue is that with so many guys coming out at 18/19/20, you really need to give them those 5 years for development.

Of course this is not always the case, and the guys you mention have not played up to the level many of use expected them to reach, but some have had good moments, and I'm not willing to write them off right now.

It does show you how easy it is to overrate a draft class.

I consider this one to be middle of the road at best based on what I've read, and the little I've seen, but who knows, maybe it surprises everyone and is a deep one.

Just seems to me that many of the kids in this draft have flaws that will need to be addressed- whether or not each of them do it will address them is another thing.