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1/11/2018  5:44 AM    LAST EDITED: 1/11/2018  5:45 AM
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Tim Hardaway comes back with a fly up his ass and plays the best basketball of his career averaging over 20 with 4 and 4 and great percentages the rest of the way. Trey Burke gets called up and within his first 10 day contract the guy is averaging double figures. By the end of the season the kid is doing his best Lou Williams impersonation actually carrying the team some nights.

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1/11/2018  8:11 AM    LAST EDITED: 1/11/2018  8:16 AM
The only thing I don't agree with is THJ averaging 4 and 4. But that would be knit-picking. I actually think this chemistry will help fill a major void on this team. Their impact could be major. And believe Horny is the right coach because he's not afraid to mix and match lineups. And he knows how to coach transition players.
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1/11/2018  8:18 AM
I'm betting jH will be force to play trey major minutes because of he's going to come in with this chip on his shoulder, then I see frank in a similar situation to willy.
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1/11/2018  8:34 AM    LAST EDITED: 1/11/2018  8:35 AM
knicks1248 wrote:I'm betting jH will be force to play trey major minutes because of he's going to come in with this chip on his shoulder, then I see frank in a similar situation to willy.

Unless Burkes defense is atrocious.....then JH would be forced to play Frank. But I agree that Frank is in danger of losing minutes this year if Burke shows why he was highly regarded as a can't miss prospect out of college

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1/11/2018  9:00 AM
blkexec wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:I'm betting jH will be force to play trey major minutes because of he's going to come in with this chip on his shoulder, then I see frank in a similar situation to willy.

Unless Burkes defense is atrocious.....then JH would be forced to play Frank. But I agree that Frank is in danger of losing minutes this year if Burke shows why he was highly regarded as a can't miss prospect out of college

From what I hear Burke's defense is atrocious. However, we should be tanking anyway so why not

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1/11/2018  9:52 AM
blkexec wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:I'm betting jH will be force to play trey major minutes because of he's going to come in with this chip on his shoulder, then I see frank in a similar situation to willy.

Unless Burkes defense is atrocious.....then JH would be forced to play Frank. But I agree that Frank is in danger of losing minutes this year if Burke shows why he was highly regarded as a can't miss prospect out of college

yes...remains to be seen, but burke should be hungry and hungry means effort on defense too.

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1/11/2018  9:54 AM
knicks1248 wrote:I'm betting jH will be force to play trey major minutes because of he's going to come in with this chip on his shoulder, then I see frank in a similar situation to willy.

Of course you do. You see lots of things.

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1/11/2018  10:03 AM
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blkexec wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:I'm betting jH will be force to play trey major minutes because of he's going to come in with this chip on his shoulder, then I see frank in a similar situation to willy.

Unless Burkes defense is atrocious.....then JH would be forced to play Frank. But I agree that Frank is in danger of losing minutes this year if Burke shows why he was highly regarded as a can't miss prospect out of college

From what I hear Burke's defense is atrocious. However, we should be tanking anyway so why not

That's what we heard and saw about Beasely and Mcderm.

I would also trade KOQ, and Willy for Mirotic. You add, miritoc, thj, and Trey and now have a much more suitable guys to play in JH system.

We had 5 fast break points in 58 damn minutes last night, I know a lot of you are really high on Frank, but he is soooooooooooooooo not ready, he's a project and his minutes need to be reduce big time. four shot attempts, no Ft's, he slows the offense down to a crawl.

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1/11/2018  11:06 AM
blkexec wrote:The only thing I don't agree with is THJ averaging 4 and 4. But that would be knit-picking. I actually think this chemistry will help fill a major void on this team. Their impact could be major. And believe Horny is the right coach because he's not afraid to mix and match lineups. And he knows how to coach transition players.

Tim is averaging 4 rebounds and almost 4 assist this year right now, just saying

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1/11/2018  11:08 AM
knicks1248 wrote:I'm betting jH will be force to play trey major minutes because of he's going to come in with this chip on his shoulder, then I see frank in a similar situation to willy.

I bet Burke gets no burn because Horny loves Baker so much. Trey will probably get the Willy treatment

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1/11/2018  11:35 AM
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knicks1248 wrote:I'm betting jH will be force to play trey major minutes because of he's going to come in with this chip on his shoulder, then I see frank in a similar situation to willy.

I bet Burke gets no burn because Horny loves Baker so much. Trey will probably get the Willy treatment

Burkes success or failure is up to Burke. Beasely has forced Jeff to give him mins. Up to Burke as well as every other player to force JH to get them or keep them on the court.

Frank will probably always find mins because he can guard multiple positions and isn't ball dominant.

If Burke is a hit then that means Perry would have hit on bargains with Beas, Jack, and Burke.

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1/11/2018  11:59 AM
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knicks1248 wrote:I'm betting jH will be force to play trey major minutes because of he's going to come in with this chip on his shoulder, then I see frank in a similar situation to willy.

I bet Burke gets no burn because Horny loves Baker so much. Trey will probably get the Willy treatment

The G-league will humble the sht out of a NBA player, and from all account, I think he's ready, he is avg a steal per game.

As far as RoN hornacek, you maybe right, but JH has shown he's not afraid to bench anyone not name melo/porzingas

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1/11/2018  11:59 AM
EnySpree wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:I'm betting jH will be force to play trey major minutes because of he's going to come in with this chip on his shoulder, then I see frank in a similar situation to willy.

I bet Burke gets no burn because Horny loves Baker so much. Trey will probably get the Willy treatment

The G-league will humble the sht out of a NBA player, and from all account, I think he's ready, he is avg a steal per game.

As far as RoN hornacek, you maybe right, but JH has shown he's not afraid to bench anyone not name melo/porzingas

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1/11/2018  12:39 PM
I think Burke will certainly help.
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1/11/2018  1:00 PM
blkexec wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:I'm betting jH will be force to play trey major minutes because of he's going to come in with this chip on his shoulder, then I see frank in a similar situation to willy.

Unless Burkes defense is atrocious.....then JH would be forced to play Frank. But I agree that Frank is in danger of losing minutes this year if Burke shows why he was highly regarded as a can't miss prospect out of college


T.Burke was highly regarded as a can't miss prospect coming out? What's he like 6 foot tall? T.Burke will hopefully take J.Jack's minutes and not Frank's but he'll have to prove himself before he does that and he has a lot to prove with how bad he was in his first and second go around in the NBA with Utah and Wash.

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1/11/2018  1:05 PM
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EnySpree wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:I'm betting jH will be force to play trey major minutes because of he's going to come in with this chip on his shoulder, then I see frank in a similar situation to willy.

I bet Burke gets no burn because Horny loves Baker so much. Trey will probably get the Willy treatment

The G-league will humble the sht out of a NBA player, and from all account, I think he's ready, he is avg a steal per game.

As far as RoN hornacek, you maybe right, but JH has shown he's not afraid to bench anyone not name melo/porzingas


What he does against players in the G-League where 95% of them will never be playing in the NBA and what he does against actual NBA talent are two very different things. Sure would be nice if he becomes even close to the player that people thought he was gonna be coming out of college but that's most likely a long shot.

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1/11/2018  1:20 PM
Don't know about Trey, but...

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1/11/2018  1:56 PM
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knicks1248 wrote:
EnySpree wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:I'm betting jH will be force to play trey major minutes because of he's going to come in with this chip on his shoulder, then I see frank in a similar situation to willy.

I bet Burke gets no burn because Horny loves Baker so much. Trey will probably get the Willy treatment

The G-league will humble the sht out of a NBA player, and from all account, I think he's ready, he is avg a steal per game.

As far as RoN hornacek, you maybe right, but JH has shown he's not afraid to bench anyone not name melo/porzingas


What he does against players in the G-League where 95% of them will never be playing in the NBA and what he does against actual NBA talent are two very different things. Sure would be nice if he becomes even close to the player that people thought he was gonna be coming out of college but that's most likely a long shot.


Exactly. You know who also tore up the G-League? Chasson Randle. The list could go on and on. Burkes biggest problems we're due to physical limitations. Unless he had a major boost in quickness and verticality, those issues are still there. No harm, no foul in bringing him up, but the expectations for him are insane.
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1/11/2018  2:15 PM
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newyorker4ever wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
EnySpree wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:I'm betting jH will be force to play trey major minutes because of he's going to come in with this chip on his shoulder, then I see frank in a similar situation to willy.

I bet Burke gets no burn because Horny loves Baker so much. Trey will probably get the Willy treatment

The G-league will humble the sht out of a NBA player, and from all account, I think he's ready, he is avg a steal per game.

As far as RoN hornacek, you maybe right, but JH has shown he's not afraid to bench anyone not name melo/porzingas


What he does against players in the G-League where 95% of them will never be playing in the NBA and what he does against actual NBA talent are two very different things. Sure would be nice if he becomes even close to the player that people thought he was gonna be coming out of college but that's most likely a long shot.


Exactly. You know who also tore up the G-League? Chasson Randle. The list could go on and on. Burkes biggest problems we're due to physical limitations. Unless he had a major boost in quickness and verticality, those issues are still there. No harm, no foul in bringing him up, but the expectations for him are insane.

What's insane is frank having 1 successful lay up attempt in the last 6 wks, and has just 2 attempts in the last 12 or so games...Most of us didn't believe jack would make the team, let alone be our permanent starter.

Trey has NBA experience which is more then we can say about 85% of the G league

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1/11/2018  2:20 PM
knicks1248 wrote:
BigDaddyG wrote:
newyorker4ever wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
EnySpree wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:I'm betting jH will be force to play trey major minutes because of he's going to come in with this chip on his shoulder, then I see frank in a similar situation to willy.

I bet Burke gets no burn because Horny loves Baker so much. Trey will probably get the Willy treatment

The G-league will humble the sht out of a NBA player, and from all account, I think he's ready, he is avg a steal per game.

As far as RoN hornacek, you maybe right, but JH has shown he's not afraid to bench anyone not name melo/porzingas


What he does against players in the G-League where 95% of them will never be playing in the NBA and what he does against actual NBA talent are two very different things. Sure would be nice if he becomes even close to the player that people thought he was gonna be coming out of college but that's most likely a long shot.


Exactly. You know who also tore up the G-League? Chasson Randle. The list could go on and on. Burkes biggest problems we're due to physical limitations. Unless he had a major boost in quickness and verticality, those issues are still there. No harm, no foul in bringing him up, but the expectations for him are insane.

What's insane is frank having 1 successful lay up attempt in the last 6 wks, and has just 2 attempts in the last 12 or so games...Most of us didn't believe jack would make the team, let alone be our permanent starter.

Trey has NBA experience which is more then we can say about 85% of the G league


Trey has experience at being bad. We have had four years to witness his lack of ability. The only success he's had is at lower levels. You're wishing on a star if you expect anything from Burke.
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Timmy and Trey save the season

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