C Kyle Oquinn (3 years 20mm)
F Beasley (2 years 10mm)
F Will Barton Full MLE
CG Spencer Dinwiddie
PG Jalen Brunson pick 20-22 acquired from Bucks

F Javell Mcgee vet minimum
F Bonzie Colson pick 42
G Ron Baker
G Daymean Dotson
G Aaron Holiday pick 34
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F Keita Bates-Diop undrafted
G Chandler Hutchison undrafted

Willy H traded to Milwaukee for 2018 1st rd pick

Courtney Lee Lance Thomas and pick 13 traded to Brooklyn for Spencer Dinwiddie
Waive and Stretch Noah

BRIGGS wrote:C Kanter resigned 5 years 72mm(drops about 5 mm off our cap)
F KP
F Timmy Hardaway
G Frank Nitlkina
G Isiah Thomas 4 years 100mm)

C Kyle Oquinn (3 years 20mm)
F Beasley (2 years 10mm)
F Will Barton Full MLE
CG Spencer Dinwiddie
PG Jalen Brunson pick 20-22 acquired from Bucks

F Javell Mcgee vet minimum
F Bonzie Colson pick 42
G Ron Baker
G Daymean Dotson
G Aaron Holiday pick 34
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F Keita Bates-Diop undrafted
G Chandler Hutchison undrafted

Willy H traded to Milwaukee for 2018 1st rd pick

Courtney Lee Lance Thomas and pick 13 traded to Brooklyn for Spencer Dinwiddie
Waive and Stretch Noah

Trading Courtney Lee, lance AND the 13th pick for Spencer Diwiddie is one of the daftest trades I've ever seen on these boards. What is your logic behind that one? It doesn't even work out salary wise (we'd be sending out over $18mil for a player making $1.5mil)

Our PG is Jack.
Our starting SF is Lance Thomas. Or an undersized CLee.

We need to spend the 16$M on a guard and wing.

I like Kanter but his game is not impacting our wins the way his individual numbers look. He's your classic old school big who no longer fits as a starter on a contender or good playoff team. Think about how OKC used him off the bench, that's his role in today's league on a good team IMO.

We have to think about getting the team in 1-2 years good enough to match up with Boston and even compete with Golden State. I don't think Kanter is that starting 5 in the playoffs on a contender.

I'd spend the money on a wing and look for a PG upgrade for Jack.
Kanter is a luxury that you add once you have a core in place. We still need core players.

smackeddog wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:C Kanter resigned 5 years 72mm(drops about 5 mm off our cap)
F KP
F Timmy Hardaway
G Frank Nitlkina
G Isiah Thomas 4 years 100mm)

C Kyle Oquinn (3 years 20mm)
F Beasley (2 years 10mm)
F Will Barton Full MLE
CG Spencer Dinwiddie
PG Jalen Brunson pick 20-22 acquired from Bucks

F Javell Mcgee vet minimum
F Bonzie Colson pick 42
G Ron Baker
G Daymean Dotson
G Aaron Holiday pick 34
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F Keita Bates-Diop undrafted
G Chandler Hutchison undrafted

Willy H traded to Milwaukee for 2018 1st rd pick

Courtney Lee Lance Thomas and pick 13 traded to Brooklyn for Spencer Dinwiddie
Waive and Stretch Noah

Trading Courtney Lee, lance AND the 13th pick for Spencer Diwiddie is one of the daftest trades I've ever seen on these boards. What is your logic behind that one? It doesn't even work out salary wise (we'd be sending out over $18mil for a player making $1.5mil)

It's for cap space but I still want that player. Also not married to Kanter-- that's one I'd have to think about. But thomas Barton and resigning oquinn is tge main goal

From the draft emphasize the pg position heavily with guys who can step in and play now. We turn weakness to strength

Also tried to emphasize strong depth so that thomas and kp can be kept fresh. Plenty of nix and match( injury depth) don't want to spend any money on the last 7 guys

Want to keep oquinn especially for the D-- I'm not married to Kanter-- that was one decision I wavered with -- I mean he's opt out I would not resign him unless it was a discount. With thomas kp and hard away we don't really need much more than kanter however-- so if it worked out well -- perhaps keep him

reub wrote:Bad hips can be chronic. I'd stay away from IT.

When youre 29? Everything Ive read about the potential negative downside was that if he was having trouble coming back--he wouldve missed the entire year--that was youre biggest red flag. The great thing is we get to watch him play 50-60 games at a very high level. If youre good to go--I mean what else is there--another look by our mds--some people simply heal.

nyknickzingis wrote:I don't get the Kanter love
We have OQuinn. Noah. Willy. KP may be our best 5 once it gets into playoff basketball closing games matching up with teams in the clutch.

Our PG is Jack.
Our starting SF is Lance Thomas. Or an undersized CLee.

We need to spend the 16$M on a guard and wing.

I like Kanter but his game is not impacting our wins the way his individual numbers look. He's your classic old school big who no longer fits as a starter on a contender or good playoff team. Think about how OKC used him off the bench, that's his role in today's league on a good team IMO.

We have to think about getting the team in 1-2 years good enough to match up with Boston and even compete with Golden State. I don't think Kanter is that starting 5 in the playoffs on a contender.

I'd spend the money on a wing and look for a PG upgrade for Jack.
Kanter is a luxury that you add once you have a core in place. We still need core players.

I don't get the Kanter hate. The recent game against Philadelphia Kanter actually outplayed Joel Embid. Can you imagine the Knicks going up against teams who have great big men like Embid without Kanter it would be a beatdown every time. Kanter gives the Knicks backbone, toughness.

I have been saying all along that one of the problems with Hornacek is that he continues to adjust to teams as opposed to forcing teams to adjust to the Knicks. This is silly. The Knicks have more than enough talent that they don't have to do this. For example when teams go small he panics and removes Kanter from the game. When teams go small this is precisely the time to have Kanter in the game and play bully ball.

In the post game press conference after the Dallas game, I was gratified to hear Hornacek finally admit that he would have to consider bullying teams when they go small. If he does go the bully ball route it would be long overdue.

LivingLegend wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:C Kanter resigned 5 years 72mm(drops about 5 mm off our cap)
F KP
F Timmy Hardaway
G Frank Nitlkina
G Isiah Thomas 4 years 100mm)

C Kyle Oquinn (3 years 20mm)
F Beasley (2 years 10mm)
F Will Barton Full MLE
CG Spencer Dinwiddie
PG Jalen Brunson pick 20-22 acquired from Bucks

F Javell Mcgee vet minimum
F Bonzie Colson pick 42
G Ron Baker
G Daymean Dotson
G Aaron Holiday pick 34
---------------------------
F Keita Bates-Diop undrafted
G Chandler Hutchison undrafted

Willy H traded to Milwaukee for 2018 1st rd pick

Courtney Lee Lance Thomas and pick 13 traded to Brooklyn for Spencer Dinwiddie
Waive and Stretch Noah

Oh Man that trade -- for S-Dinwiddie

Would I trade the 13th pick in the draft for Will Barton Isiah Thomas and Spencer Dinwiddie? Yes Id do that TYPE of trade if I get a yes from IT reps and his health is checked out ok. A draft pick is used to improve the team. Not sure the Nets would take on the cap--but they have and they yield no pick. The likelihood of Dinwiddie being better than pick 13 i high within itself. That would give us 4 wing players 6-5 or taller. I think the D with IT is a very over rated negative but having big combo guards with him is good balance anyway.