BigDaddyG wrote:

LivingLegend wrote:- Sexton -- love the heart and attacking mentality and he CAN finish unlike (Mudiay) -- his shot is ok and will improve -- don't think strength/explosion or size are real issues. Is he a true PG -- maybe not perfect but yeah I think with his intangibles he will be ok.

I'm beginning to rethink my position on Sexton's playmaking a little bit. I think it needs work, but you can't run an offense that doesn't exist. Avery probably didn't do the best job of coaching this team. I still don't see the upside and I believe the only reason he's being considered a mid-lottery pick is because this class is weak there positionally. I agree with you on Miles. I like the idea of pairing him with KP. People got on him because his stats didn't increase, but he changed roles to become more of an initiator. I think his numbers are look better when you look at them from that perspective. I see a lot more of Otto Porter than Kent Bazemore. Mykal's length Alon gives him more versatility than Bazemore. But you're right that Mykal will probably never be considered a "star" during his career. Miles has a higher ceiling, but Mykal has a lower floor, if that makes any sense.

Sexton by all accounts is a GREAT kid --- 4.0 student, gamer and tough as nails (doesn't QUIT) and takes coaching --- plus a GREAT athlete ---- I think those attributes count for a lot --- I've seen him flash great vision but I agree -- it's not always on display --- BAMA really slowed the game down -- at the NBA level I see him pressing tempo all game and playing off high screen roll which BAMA did little of as well. There are concerns but still a legit prospect and he has chops at crunch time to take pressure off KP/Timmy/Frank.

Agree on Mykal higher floor and lower ceiling but NBA is an athlete's game --- I think Miles will hit very close to his ceiling.

Jmpasq wrote:

LivingLegend wrote:- Carter -- is NOT a natural 3 point shooter regardless of any % he shoots, his best post move is a weak left-handed jump hook -- his fit in todays nba game is questionable (I would say M-Turner is solid compare but Turner a more natural shooter)
- Mykal Bridges --- reminds me of poor mans Rashad Lewis (not same type of scorer) but he is somewhat robotic to me, struggles to take college players off the dribble and often has to resort to turn around due to that inability to get by the defender. His strength as a older prospect worries me in terms of upside --- someone mentioned Kent Bazemore and that may be a better compare.
- Trae Young -- I'm just MEH on him -- don't like the thought of him defensively...covering for him and becoming strictly an offensive team because he won't/can't defend at NBA level
- SGA I was in love with but watching some more --- worry about his ability to take NBA players off the bounce without help of a screen (Frank's issue) -- plus SGA shot very suspect on perimeter and wondering if his D is being over-hyped (don't think he is Frank level defender either)
- Sexton -- love the heart and attacking mentality and he CAN finish unlike (Mudiay) -- his shot is ok and will improve -- don't think strength/explosion or size are real issues. Is he a true PG -- maybe not perfect but yeah I think with his intangibles he will be ok.
- Miles Bridges -- positional ?s -- but explosive athlete ---- NBA elite level athlete --- great charisma --- I think Knicks brass may target him as a SF/PF. I think his scoring may have been suppressed by Izzo and the team around him (everyone looking for their shots from PG/SG/C) --- may have most upside.

I can't argue that Mykal would fit nicely with our roster but I think his upside is much lower than Sexton or Miles B -- maybe even SGA.

I think it may come down to Miles or Sexton.

I like Mikal because of a roster fit. We get him, put Frank at the 2 with Porzingis as the rim protector you have the makings of a sick defensive team.

Right but if he is just a fit --- you can find a fit in any # of directions (see Courtney Lee). In a deep draft at #9 -- you hope you are getting more than a role player and there are some concerns with Mykal on that front. It is difficult to compare 3rd year guy to guys that are 18 in year 1. I think what would Frank look like playing for Nova right now -- I suspect pretty damn good.

LivingLegend wrote:

reub wrote:

LivingLegend wrote:- Carter -- is NOT a natural 3 point shooter regardless of any % he shoots, his best post move is a weak left-handed jump hook -- his fit in todays nba game is questionable (I would say M-Turner is solid compare but Turner a more natural shooter)
- Mykal Bridges --- reminds me of poor mans Rashad Lewis (not same type of scorer) but he is somewhat robotic to me, struggles to take college players off the dribble and often has to resort to turn around due to that inability to get by the defender. His strength as a older prospect worries me in terms of upside --- someone mentioned Kent Bazemore and that may be a better compare.
- Trae Young -- I'm just MEH on him -- don't like the thought of him defensively...covering for him and becoming strictly an offensive team because he won't/can't defend at NBA level
- SGA I was in love with but watching some more --- worry about his ability to take NBA players off the bounce without help of a screen (Frank's issue) -- plus SGA shot very suspect on perimeter and wondering if his D is being over-hyped (don't think he is Frank level defender either)
- Sexton -- love the heart and attacking mentality and he CAN finish unlike (Mudiay) -- his shot is ok and will improve -- don't think strength/explosion or size are real issues. Is he a true PG -- maybe not perfect but yeah I think with his intangibles he will be ok.
- Miles Bridges -- positional ?s -- but explosive athlete ---- NBA elite level athlete --- great charisma --- I think Knicks brass may target him as a SF/PF. I think his scoring may have been suppressed by Izzo and the team around him (everyone looking for their shots from PG/SG/C) --- may have most upside.

I can't argue that Mykal would fit nicely with our roster but I think his upside is much lower than Sexton or Miles B -- maybe even SGA.

I think it may come down to Miles or Sexton.

This is a great rundown. Thanks! The more I think about Miles the more I like him. He's similar to Jayson Tatum, isn't he? Probably the best natural scorer and athlete in the bunch. Plus he'll produce from day one. He seems to have no faults on offense. How is his ability to defend?

I see Tatum as a more natural/creative scorer and Miles as a more explosive player -- I do like Miles as a post up option at the SF position. Miles weaknesses offensively might be handle in half/court, his passing in half/court and big lack of any mid-range game (that might be his biggest issue /// everything either from 3 or at the basket.

But isn't that the modern game? Either threes or at the basket. I believe that is what analytics say is the most efficient way to play the game nowadays. The long two (and twos in general unless at the basket) are counterproductive to winning basketball.

reub wrote:

LivingLegend wrote:

reub wrote:

LivingLegend wrote:- Carter -- is NOT a natural 3 point shooter regardless of any % he shoots, his best post move is a weak left-handed jump hook -- his fit in todays nba game is questionable (I would say M-Turner is solid compare but Turner a more natural shooter)
- Mykal Bridges --- reminds me of poor mans Rashad Lewis (not same type of scorer) but he is somewhat robotic to me, struggles to take college players off the dribble and often has to resort to turn around due to that inability to get by the defender. His strength as a older prospect worries me in terms of upside --- someone mentioned Kent Bazemore and that may be a better compare.
- Trae Young -- I'm just MEH on him -- don't like the thought of him defensively...covering for him and becoming strictly an offensive team because he won't/can't defend at NBA level
- SGA I was in love with but watching some more --- worry about his ability to take NBA players off the bounce without help of a screen (Frank's issue) -- plus SGA shot very suspect on perimeter and wondering if his D is being over-hyped (don't think he is Frank level defender either)
- Sexton -- love the heart and attacking mentality and he CAN finish unlike (Mudiay) -- his shot is ok and will improve -- don't think strength/explosion or size are real issues. Is he a true PG -- maybe not perfect but yeah I think with his intangibles he will be ok.
- Miles Bridges -- positional ?s -- but explosive athlete ---- NBA elite level athlete --- great charisma --- I think Knicks brass may target him as a SF/PF. I think his scoring may have been suppressed by Izzo and the team around him (everyone looking for their shots from PG/SG/C) --- may have most upside.

I can't argue that Mykal would fit nicely with our roster but I think his upside is much lower than Sexton or Miles B -- maybe even SGA.

I think it may come down to Miles or Sexton.

This is a great rundown. Thanks! The more I think about Miles the more I like him. He's similar to Jayson Tatum, isn't he? Probably the best natural scorer and athlete in the bunch. Plus he'll produce from day one. He seems to have no faults on offense. How is his ability to defend?

I see Tatum as a more natural/creative scorer and Miles as a more explosive player -- I do like Miles as a post up option at the SF position. Miles weaknesses offensively might be handle in half/court, his passing in half/court and big lack of any mid-range game (that might be his biggest issue /// everything either from 3 or at the basket.

But isn't that the modern game? Either threes or at the basket. I believe that is what analytics say is the most efficient way to play the game nowadays. The long two (and twos in general unless at the basket) are counterproductive to winning basketball.

There are a ton of open shots inside the 3 point line and before you get to the hoop -- see Trey Burke as an example. Guess what I'm saying is the great players score all over the court close/mid/deep --- right now Miles is inconsistent from 3 and has little to no mid-range game --- he does use both hands to finish very well and if used as a post-up scorer 15 and in -- that might fill in for his lack of mid-range.

This kid might be the full package for us. His basketball IQ is way more advance than about of guys ranked ahead of him. He plays bigger than he is. He had long arms. Plays defense. He does everything well. We simply can't go wrong with him. I think he could start right away for us at the 3.

EnySpree wrote:

This kid might be the full package for us. His basketball IQ is way more advance than about of guys ranked ahead of him. He plays bigger than he is. He had long arms. Plays defense. He does everything well. We simply can't go wrong with him. I think he could start right away for us at the 3.

Knixkik wrote:

EnySpree wrote:

This kid might be the full package for us. His basketball IQ is way more advance than about of guys ranked ahead of him. He plays bigger than he is. He had long arms. Plays defense. He does everything well. We simply can't go wrong with him. I think he could start right away for us at the 3.

Completely agree. He is a plug and play starter right away at SF.

just going by draft order

#1 Phoenix Suns Aayton
#2 Memphis Bagley
#3 Atlanta Porter SF
#4 Orlando PG Trae Young
#5 Dallas SG Doncic
#6 Sacrmento Sf Kevin Knox
#7 Cleveland (C) Mo Bamba
#8 Chicago (C) Wendall carter
#9 Knicks PG Colin Sexton

BRIGGS wrote:Team needs in order

just going by draft order

#1 Phoenix Suns Aayton
#2 Memphis Bagley
#3 Atlanta Porter SF
#4 Orlando PG Trae Young
#5 Dallas SG Doncic
#6 Sacrmento Sf Kevin Knox
#7 Cleveland (C) Mo Bamba
#8 Chicago (C) Wendall carter
#9 Knicks PG Colin Sexton

BigDaddyG wrote:

Knixkik wrote:

EnySpree wrote:

This kid might be the full package for us. His basketball IQ is way more advance than about of guys ranked ahead of him. He plays bigger than he is. He had long arms. Plays defense. He does everything well. We simply can't go wrong with him. I think he could start right away for us at the 3.

Completely agree. He is a plug and play starter right away at SF.

Not so sure about that. We always make the mistake of assuming that one guy will contribute faster because he's an upperclassmen. But guys develop at different rates. Heck, Frank Kaminsky is still trying to find his way. I like Mykal, but I don't expect him to start gunning from the start. Heck, it took Otto Porter three years and everyone swore up and down that he was a first year contributor.

I don't think he will contribute faster because he is an upper classmen. I think he will contribute faster because he has NBA ready skills. Shooting, defensive, and athletic ability will translate right away.

Knixkik wrote:

BigDaddyG wrote:

Knixkik wrote:

EnySpree wrote:

This kid might be the full package for us. His basketball IQ is way more advance than about of guys ranked ahead of him. He plays bigger than he is. He had long arms. Plays defense. He does everything well. We simply can't go wrong with him. I think he could start right away for us at the 3.

Completely agree. He is a plug and play starter right away at SF.

Not so sure about that. We always make the mistake of assuming that one guy will contribute faster because he's an upperclassmen. But guys develop at different rates. Heck, Frank Kaminsky is still trying to find his way. I like Mykal, but I don't expect him to start gunning from the start. Heck, it took Otto Porter three years and everyone swore up and down that he was a first year contributor.

I don't think he will contribute faster because he is an upper classmen. I think he will contribute faster because he has NBA ready skills. Shooting, defensive, and athletic ability will translate right away.