BRIGGS wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

reub wrote:

Knixkik wrote:I won't waiver from Bridges being my top choice. I've been high on him all year. I want the best shooter and defender in the draft.

If we have Trae Young, Mikal Bridges and Carter to choose from I'll want all three. We couldn't go wrong there.

Young is a tough guy to judge. He is one of three guys to lead the ncaa in scoring and assists and could impact the game on offense like Steph/Lillard. But there are so many concerns as well. Hopefully the Knicks continue to scout well and get this right.

I would not pass on young. Watch his videos when he played with the best kids in his class.

If we don't move down or up I think I'd be happy with one of Carter sexton or Young

Id even throw Knox in this group. Have to remember hes 18 years old too. At one point I felt he was top 3.

Im going to assume the top 5 will be

Aayton
Doncic
Bagley
Porter
Bamba

so that leaves a list of

Jackson Carter Young Sexton Knox Mikal Bridges (these will be the potential Knicks choices at 9)

We can add in SAG but were not taking him as we have Frank.

That is your top players in the lottery--although doesnt mean they may be the best players in the draft obviously.

My guess is we pick out of Knox Carter Sexton Young. I just think Bridges is a SG at the pro level and we are into two of them already big$$$. We have needs at PG SF and C

Right now Im at

#1 Sexton #2 Young #3 Carter #4 Knox

I want no part of Sexton at all -- shooting and passing ability is sub-standard, size makes him a switching liability, and he's not enough of an athlete to be a down-hill scorer. I'd take SGA over him.

Assuming your top 5 holds, I'll take 1) Young (happy), 2) Jackson (happy), 3) Bridges (happy), 4)SGA (neutral), 5) Carter (shade under neutral), 6) Knox (wouldn't be thrilled), 7) Sexton (no consideration).

codeunknown wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

reub wrote:

Knixkik wrote:I won't waiver from Bridges being my top choice. I've been high on him all year. I want the best shooter and defender in the draft.

If we have Trae Young, Mikal Bridges and Carter to choose from I'll want all three. We couldn't go wrong there.

Young is a tough guy to judge. He is one of three guys to lead the ncaa in scoring and assists and could impact the game on offense like Steph/Lillard. But there are so many concerns as well. Hopefully the Knicks continue to scout well and get this right.

I would not pass on young. Watch his videos when he played with the best kids in his class.

If we don't move down or up I think I'd be happy with one of Carter sexton or Young

Id even throw Knox in this group. Have to remember hes 18 years old too. At one point I felt he was top 3.

Im going to assume the top 5 will be

Aayton
Doncic
Bagley
Porter
Bamba

so that leaves a list of

Jackson Carter Young Sexton Knox Mikal Bridges (these will be the potential Knicks choices at 9)

We can add in SAG but were not taking him as we have Frank.

That is your top players in the lottery--although doesnt mean they may be the best players in the draft obviously.

My guess is we pick out of Knox Carter Sexton Young. I just think Bridges is a SG at the pro level and we are into two of them already big$$$. We have needs at PG SF and C

Right now Im at

#1 Sexton #2 Young #3 Carter #4 Knox

I want no part of Sexton at all -- shooting and passing ability is sub-standard, size makes him a switching liability, and he's not enough of an athlete to be a down-hill scorer. I'd take SGA over him.

Assuming your top 5 holds, I'll take 1) Young (happy), 2) Jackson (happy), 3) Bridges (happy), 4)SGA (neutral), 5) Carter (shade under neutral), 6) Knox (wouldn't be thrilled), 7) Sexton (no consideration).

I agree with you with on Sexton about everything, except his athletic ability. He's not Westbrook in terms of burst, but he's got the same amount of relentlessness going to the rim. Athletically, I'd say Sexton is on Reggie Jackson level in terms of run/jump ability. Is that enough to make up for the fact that he's not a natural facilitator? Well, it took Reggie a few years. I'm not sold on Sexton as a lottery pick, but he's propped up by the fact that this a week point guard draft. I think I'd take 1) Jackson (unlikely) 2) Carter 3) Mikal 4) Miles 5) Knox.

reub wrote:I'm watching Bridges today and all I see is a 22 year old 3 and D role player. A Kent Bazemore type. I'd rather take Carter or Trae Young, both of whom have much more upside.

Those players are going to be gone before we pick if we stay at 9... so have fun crying on draft night when we draft Mikal

EnySpree wrote:

reub wrote:I'm watching Bridges today and all I see is a 22 year old 3 and D role player. A Kent Bazemore type. I'd rather take Carter or Trae Young, both of whom have much more upside.

Those players are going to be gone before we pick if we stay at 9... so have fun crying on draft night when we draft Mikal

Young or Carter could be available at 9 depending on how the picks go. I've said it before, the top seven in my opinion is Ayton, Bamba, Jackson, Doncic, Porter, Bagley and Young. After that you've got Carter, Miles, Mikal, Knox and Sexton grouped together. So there is a good chance Carter is available at 9 if my top seven go in the top seven and the 8th team picks anyone not named Carter. Likewise it is possible that Young is available if two teams above us take two players from the next group I mentioned, and to be honest Young is the most likely to fall out of the top seven due to concerns over his size, athleticism, and whether his game will translate.

Obviously there is a scenario where Young and Carter is not available, but I think there's a good chance one of them will be available at 9, and if they are we should take them.

Mike1989 wrote:

EnySpree wrote:

reub wrote:I'm watching Bridges today and all I see is a 22 year old 3 and D role player. A Kent Bazemore type. I'd rather take Carter or Trae Young, both of whom have much more upside.

Those players are going to be gone before we pick if we stay at 9... so have fun crying on draft night when we draft Mikal

Young or Carter could be available at 9 depending on how the picks go. I've said it before, the top seven in my opinion is Ayton, Bamba, Jackson, Doncic, Porter, Bagley and Young. After that you've got Carter, Miles, Mikal, Knox and Sexton grouped together. So there is a good chance Carter is available at 9 if my top seven go in the top seven and the 8th team picks anyone not named Carter. Likewise it is possible that Young is available if two teams above us take two players from the next group I mentioned, and to be honest Young is the most likely to fall out of the top seven due to concerns over his size, athleticism, and whether his game will translate.

Obviously there is a scenario where Young and Carter is not available, but I think there's a good chance one of them will be available at 9, and if they are we should take them.

I totally agree with what you said there. Drafting Mikal is similar to drafting Kent Bazemore. Trae might bust or he could be great. Carter is above average at almost everything, younger than Mikal, and is often compared to Al Horford. He's going to be underappreciated because he's not great at anything, but he is good at almost everything. I'd rather take a chance on Trae or Carter over a Kent Bazemore type of 3 and D role player.

EnySpree wrote:Wendell is having a nightmare game so far.... let's chill with the hype for a sec.

Wendell was in foul trouble the whole game, which held down his production. Hopefully this will hurt his draft placement and enable us to draft him. He does everything well and projects as an Al Horford type of player. Mikal looks like a role player.

Nalod wrote:You think pro scouts are as impressionable to one game as we are?
There will be workouts, hours of tape, they will argue among themselves their views and even still some will succeed and some will not.

reub wrote:

EnySpree wrote:Wendell is having a nightmare game so far.... let's chill with the hype for a sec.

Wendell was in foul trouble the whole game, which held down his production. Hopefully this will hurt his draft placement and enable us to draft him. He does everything well and projects as an Al Horford type of player. Mikal looks like a role player.

Mikal was looking like the best player in the draft up until today so save it. Wendell had a nightmare game... foul trouble and fouling out in a losing effort is a nightmare game. Don't sugar coat it cuz you like one guy over the other.

EnySpree wrote:

reub wrote:

EnySpree wrote:Wendell is having a nightmare game so far.... let's chill with the hype for a sec.

Wendell was in foul trouble the whole game, which held down his production. Hopefully this will hurt his draft placement and enable us to draft him. He does everything well and projects as an Al Horford type of player. Mikal looks like a role player.

Mikal was looking like the best player in the draft up until today so save it. Wendell had a nightmare game... foul trouble and fouling out in a losing effort is a nightmare game. Don't sugar coat it cuz you like one guy over the other.

I like mikal bridges and I won't cry if we take him-- however name an nba player who is really good thT does not have a dribble drive game? Without a dribble drive your more likely to be a role player. Could be a real good one but I think that's what ge may be.