fishmike wrote:Who was Dirk's batman?

And can you imagine if Dirk had KP's defensive ability?

Gudris wrote:KP is legit number 1 option, problem with Knicks today is we don't have real number 2,3,4 and 5 option that can take load of KP in every game.

One day Beasly steps up, one day Kanter or Lee, but we need this every game, Knicks need time to grow and update

it looks like we will miss the playoffs this year also

KP himself is tired but is also getting virtually zero easy baskets a game. Meanwhile also protecting the basket.

Gudris wrote:KP is legit number 1 option, problem with Knicks today is we don't have real number 2,3,4 and 5 option that can take load of KP in every game.

One day Beasly steps up, one day Kanter or Lee, but we need this every game, Knicks need time to grow and update

it looks like we will miss the playoffs this year also

Yup exactly.

Knixkik wrote:

fishmike wrote:Who was Dirk's batman?

And can you imagine if Dirk had KP's defensive ability?

MIAMI — [b]Kristaps Porzingis has struggled recently living up to the designation as Knicks franchise player, admitting fatigue through 38 games.

Two European-based scouts aren’t surprised, suggesting the natural makeup of an international player isn’t best suited for that role. They see Porzingis as an All-Star — just not necessarily a superstar.
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Tim Shea, a former European scout with the Knicks and the Bobcats/Hornets who has lived for years in Barcelona, Spain, said it’s uncommon for a European to embrace mentally that status as an NBA franchise guy in the same way as an American-born AAU player. Only Dirk Nowitzki — and it took him many years — fully accepted that franchise-player responsibility.

“It’s because Europeans have learned the game as a ‘team game’ above all,’’ Shea told The Post. “[Porzingis] is at the very best an All-Star like Pau Gasol that can assist and become a great complementary player to some NBA big gun. He can only be cast as a piece of a rebuild that is a long way from anywhere.”

SEE ALSO
Kristaps Porzingis admits this is getting too much for him
Kristaps Porzingis admits this is getting too much for him
Shea said the “KP’’ moniker should now stand for “Keep Plowing’’ as he battles enormous expectations. Porzingis kicked up a fuss when he mentioned Thursday after a loss in Washington he was “so tired.” He is looking for a second wind to the season and is anxiously awaiting Tim Hardaway Jr.’s expected January return.
Never having a European-born coach — or one with international coaching experience — doesn’t help matters, according to Shea. The former Knicks scout who was opposed to the drafting of Frederic Weis feels an American coach may sometimes not relate fully to an international player’s mindset.

The Knicks felt they needed to trade Carmelo Anthony to thrust Porzingis into the face-of-the-franchise position, but he’s only 22 years old and in his third season. After an MVP-like start, Porzingis’ shooting percentage has dipped to 43.9 percent. In the last 19 games he has shot 39.9 percent.

With All-Star voting beginning on Christmas, his downturn could hurt his chances of being named a starter. He is currently fourth among Eastern Conference frontcourt players in the fan voting, behind Giannis Antetokounmpo, LeBron James and Joel Embiid.

“If the Garden continues to think and sell that Porzingis is a franchise player, they might as well let Willy Hernangomez play the point,’’ one NBA scout with European connections said. “It is not going to happen. KP has only played on a losing team as a pro in Spain and a losing team in New York. They have a lot of good, young Europeans — KP, Frank (Ntilikina), (Enes) Kanter, Willy. We can now start to care about the team, but please don’t believe KP will lead you to the end of the yellow brick road by himself. It’s idiotic to put him in that position.’’

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Porzingis’ offensive rating was 109.2 in his first 19 games, but it is 102.2 since Dec. 6.Charles Wenzelberg
Porzingis, who is averaging 23.7 points, scored just 2 points in the second half in Washington and was inactive defensively. The burden of leading the Knicks every game has taken its toll. The Knicks are 1-6 in their last seven games, falling two games below .500 at 18-20 for the first time since they started 1-3.

Despite his dire words, Porzingis hoped the good weather in Miami would resuscitate him. Though Florida also had a chill — much like Porzingis’ mid-range jumper — with temperatures in the 50’s.

“Little bumps and bruises and things like that that you play through affects you a little bit,” Porzingis said. “Once I’m playing I want to delete that completely out of my head and not think about it. As you go forward, more and more stuff add up, but it’s normal. It’s nothing to keep complaining about. We just have to keep pushing forward, get as much rest as I can and try to be as fresh as I can for every game.”r every game.”

Some truly believe Melo was holding KP back, no... the triangle and phil was holding everybody back. Now we're back to having one star, no real pg that's suited for this system, and a 2nd scorer whose injured. Starting out just like the melo ERA, Amare hurt, and missing the correct vet pg (except kidd's one season) for melo

Jmpasq wrote:
Been saying this he is an All star not s franchise player. We need to get lucky in this draft we need to draft the Donovan Mitchell this year

That won't help either because that kid will be 3 to 4 yrs behind kp's timeline trying to learn the nba, just like frank is a few yrs behind kp now.

knicks1248 wrote:

MIAMI — [b]Kristaps Porzingis has struggled recently living up to the designation as Knicks franchise player, admitting fatigue through 38 games.

Two European-based scouts aren’t surprised, suggesting the natural makeup of an international player isn’t best suited for that role. They see Porzingis as an All-Star — just not necessarily a superstar.
[/b]
Tim Shea, a former European scout with the Knicks and the Bobcats/Hornets who has lived for years in Barcelona, Spain, said it’s uncommon for a European to embrace mentally that status as an NBA franchise guy in the same way as an American-born AAU player. Only Dirk Nowitzki — and it took him many years — fully accepted that franchise-player responsibility.

“It’s because Europeans have learned the game as a ‘team game’ above all,’’ Shea told The Post. “[Porzingis] is at the very best an All-Star like Pau Gasol that can assist and become a great complementary player to some NBA big gun. He can only be cast as a piece of a rebuild that is a long way from anywhere.”

SEE ALSO
Kristaps Porzingis admits this is getting too much for him
Kristaps Porzingis admits this is getting too much for him
Shea said the “KP’’ moniker should now stand for “Keep Plowing’’ as he battles enormous expectations. Porzingis kicked up a fuss when he mentioned Thursday after a loss in Washington he was “so tired.” He is looking for a second wind to the season and is anxiously awaiting Tim Hardaway Jr.’s expected January return.
Never having a European-born coach — or one with international coaching experience — doesn’t help matters, according to Shea. The former Knicks scout who was opposed to the drafting of Frederic Weis feels an American coach may sometimes not relate fully to an international player’s mindset.

The Knicks felt they needed to trade Carmelo Anthony to thrust Porzingis into the face-of-the-franchise position, but he’s only 22 years old and in his third season. After an MVP-like start, Porzingis’ shooting percentage has dipped to 43.9 percent. In the last 19 games he has shot 39.9 percent.

With All-Star voting beginning on Christmas, his downturn could hurt his chances of being named a starter. He is currently fourth among Eastern Conference frontcourt players in the fan voting, behind Giannis Antetokounmpo, LeBron James and Joel Embiid.

“If the Garden continues to think and sell that Porzingis is a franchise player, they might as well let Willy Hernangomez play the point,’’ one NBA scout with European connections said. “It is not going to happen. KP has only played on a losing team as a pro in Spain and a losing team in New York. They have a lot of good, young Europeans — KP, Frank (Ntilikina), (Enes) Kanter, Willy. We can now start to care about the team, but please don’t believe KP will lead you to the end of the yellow brick road by himself. It’s idiotic to put him in that position.’’

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Porzingis’ offensive rating was 109.2 in his first 19 games, but it is 102.2 since Dec. 6.Charles Wenzelberg
Porzingis, who is averaging 23.7 points, scored just 2 points in the second half in Washington and was inactive defensively. The burden of leading the Knicks every game has taken its toll. The Knicks are 1-6 in their last seven games, falling two games below .500 at 18-20 for the first time since they started 1-3.

Despite his dire words, Porzingis hoped the good weather in Miami would resuscitate him. Though Florida also had a chill — much like Porzingis’ mid-range jumper — with temperatures in the 50’s.

“Little bumps and bruises and things like that that you play through affects you a little bit,” Porzingis said. “Once I’m playing I want to delete that completely out of my head and not think about it. As you go forward, more and more stuff add up, but it’s normal. It’s nothing to keep complaining about. We just have to keep pushing forward, get as much rest as I can and try to be as fresh as I can for every game.”r every game.”

Some truly believe Melo was holding KP back, no... the triangle and phil was holding everybody back. Now we're back to having one star, no real pg that's suited for this system, and a 2nd scorer whose injured. Starting out just like the melo ERA, Amare hurt, and missing the correct vet pg (except kidd's one season) for melo

nyknickzingis wrote:Batmans at 22 third year in the league do average 24 a night
How many Robins have as many 30 point games as him so far?

The number one thing after you have the talent (which KP does) is if you have the mindset. Do you want the ball? Do you have what to take the last shot? Do you want to be a leader?

To me KP has all of that in spades.

He's just a twig. He's still way too scrawny and gets pushed around and physically he is not there.
If he's doing this year 5 into his career ok.

This is his first year carrying a NBA team and also the least amount of talent on offense he has ever played with the NBA. I don't gets the KP hate. Who in the 2015 draft is doing better? Towns? lol

Embiid? lol he barely plays.

KP needs to keep working on his body ... it's his biggest weakness right now. He needs to dedicate himself to being the fittest big man in the league.

his skill set and even anything remotely resembling dwight howard in physique....he'd be the best player in the league. weight gain needed and he is still at least 1 offseason away.