Although Beasley looks aloof at time he make decent passes and is a willing ball mover.

Nalod wrote:Sleepy Beas let John wall get the rebound at the 1st half end. That was his assignment.
Sleepy Beas gets fatigued also and checks out as much or more than others. Watch him get lost on defense, its comical. He is smooth offensively and has been great when we need buckets.
He is getting minutes and when needed he finishes.

Thomas let's dudes get open threes all the time buy sitting in the paint doubling the post for no reason. Nobody complains.

We need Beas dropping 20-30 points a night more than Thomas so called defense.

knicks1248 wrote:Starting beasley won't help, you have to get more scoring from your pg position, more 3 point shooting from your fwds, and definitely more penetration. If your pg is not making teams pay for doubling, and your SF isn't knocking down 3's the struggle is going to get real. Mcderm fell off as well, he's barely hitting wide open 3's.

McDermott has really disappointed me. For the low volume of shots he takes, i would rather let him go this summer and get a real playmaker in here. Thomas and Beasley have formed a solid backup forward tandem. McDermott has one role and he does it sparingly. He already admitted he can't shoot well on the road. I see us play teams every game who have random guys that come off the bench and never miss wide open shots. McDermott needs to be that guy but it's been few and far between.

EnySpree wrote:He's averaging 22pts asnd 9 rebounds per 36 minutes... Knicks are starved for baskets. Too much pressure is put on the defense to make stops. Beas needs 30 plus minutes a night at least. Even when THJr comes back. We're not so good where we can bench Beas. KP can't drop 40 every night. He's begun n for help.

Beas has proven he can be featured. No reason we should be going through heavy scoring droughts with Beas on the roster.

Here is what's funny about this board.... relatively normal suggestions get put down by weird agendas. Some are saying youth will be disrupted? Or that he is better needed in second unit? BS...how does starting Beas over Thomas hurt youth? And what ever happened to rewarding good play. He is the only one taking it strong to hoop.

Move may get us off to better starts in the half. Also think we are having issues with our outside shooting. Just not as good as early on. Buckets is missing everything. Lee has cooled off. Frank and Baker ummm yeah. Not to mention Kanters energy has been shut down by lack of minutes. Think we need minor adjustments. This may be one.

HofstraBBall wrote:

EnySpree wrote:He's averaging 22pts asnd 9 rebounds per 36 minutes... Knicks are starved for baskets. Too much pressure is put on the defense to make stops. Beas needs 30 plus minutes a night at least. Even when THJr comes back. We're not so good where we can bench Beas. KP can't drop 40 every night. He's begun n for help.

Beas has proven he can be featured. No reason we should be going through heavy scoring droughts with Beas on the roster.

Here is what's funny about this board.... relatively normal suggestions get put down by weird agendas. Some are saying youth will be disrupted? Or that he is better needed in second unit? BS...how does starting Beas over Thomas hurt youth? And what ever happened to rewarding good play. He is the only one taking it strong to hoop.

Move may get us off to better starts in the half. Also think we are having issues with our outside shooting. Just not as good as early on. Buckets is missing everything. Lee has cooled off. Frank and Baker ummm yeah. Not to mention Kanters energy has been shut down by lack of minutes. Think we need minor adjustments. This may be one.

I think the issue is guard play and the other stuff you mentioned. Lee/McD have cooled. McD has been missing everything. That and our guard play is really poor right now.

Frank is 19 and has been sick. Baker stinks. Jack has his moments but lets be realistic. Sessions is a nada. Lee is fine, but you cant ask too much and the guy who has helped all year is THjr who has had some high assist games.

Our guard play, especially PG was easily the biggest weakness coming in, and that group is banged up and depleted right now. Makes everything look worse.

I think this is a ride it out more than a fix it type of thing. I think the starting this doesnt happen because they want him coming in for KP, and clearly KP's minutes need to stay low for now. But Beas is getting the time. I think the coach sees what you guys do. Beas has earned it.

HofstraBBall wrote:

EnySpree wrote:He's averaging 22pts asnd 9 rebounds per 36 minutes... Knicks are starved for baskets. Too much pressure is put on the defense to make stops. Beas needs 30 plus minutes a night at least. Even when THJr comes back. We're not so good where we can bench Beas. KP can't drop 40 every night. He's begun n for help.

Beas has proven he can be featured. No reason we should be going through heavy scoring droughts with Beas on the roster.

Here is what's funny about this board.... relatively normal suggestions get put down by weird agendas. Some are saying youth will be disrupted? Or that he is better needed in second unit? BS...how does starting Beas over Thomas hurt youth? And what ever happened to rewarding good play. He is the only one taking it strong to hoop.

Move may get us off to better starts in the half. Also think we are having issues with our outside shooting. Just not as good as early on. Buckets is missing everything. Lee has cooled off. Frank and Baker ummm yeah. Not to mention Kanters energy has been shut down by lack of minutes. Think we need minor adjustments. This may be one.

Fine, reward him with more minutes. But you can't deny that a Beasely, Porzingis Kanter lineup is a defensive disaster. No agenda, just truth. If you feel that KP should get the hook sooner through this rough stretch, that's fair. But this isn't 2K. Player's have to mesh.

fishmike wrote:

jskinny35 wrote:IMO, the problem is we have players valued at certain position depths and they are forced to play in higher depth positions then they should. J.Jack is a solid backup or 3rd guard - but we criticize him for being inconsistent in a starters role. Beasley is perfect off the bench, as his defensive lapses and ISO style fit/work better with the 2nd unit. O'Quinn is another solid bench player - but not good enough to be a consistent starter. We need to stop moving a bench player up to a starters player.

Since we lack talent, better to let them play their respective roles and take our lumps. Each incorrect roster spot placement results in us complaining and trying to adjust a different one to offset the initial deficiency. Truth is we have 3 starters at this point - KP, Kanter and Hardaway Jr (Lee is a borderline starter but is also a 2 guard). Good news is Frank may get there and McDermott still has time to improve. Given what we have - I think we have to start Jack, Lee/Hardaway Jr, McDermott, KP and Kanter and take our lumps... Beasley, O'Quinn, Frank get most of bench minutes for now.

this.

As soon as news came out about THJ injury being a 6 to 8 wk stress reaction, JH said the biggest issue was everyone's role would switch, and that was going to be a problem when you have certain guys that are comfortable in their current role.