My guess is Kanter takes his opt in and delays free agency, or tries to get an extension on his contract, even at a significant paycut. We might land him for 12 mil a year or so. It's better than riding out his contract and getting stuck taking the mid-level exception, which some of these guys will be doing this summer.

All in all, giving the circumstances, my guess is we are able to keep Kanter on a long-term value contract. Considering what he brings to the table, it's a steal. Getting him in the Melo deal is turning out to be quite a prize for this team if we are able to keep him on a team friendly deal.

Knixkik wrote:

anrst wrote:when the trade went down people were praying for him to opt out

Yeah its crazy to think about now. He's earning his contract. But it's also great to think about how he might resign for significantly less money because of the market.

If he plays anywhere near what he is( I'm assuming he's now healthy) if you were his agent-- it would be impossible not to ask for close to a 5 year max

Knixkik wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

Knixkik wrote:

anrst wrote:when the trade went down people were praying for him to opt out

Yeah its crazy to think about now. He's earning his contract. But it's also great to think about how he might resign for significantly less money because of the market.

If he plays anywhere near what he is( I'm assuming he's now healthy) if you were his agent-- it would be impossible not to ask for close to a 5 year max

He will ask because it's his job. Then the knicks will counter with something significantly less. Then what? Briggs, who offers Kanter anywhere near the max? Why is an agent asking for max even relevant? Look at what happened what Noel's agent asked for the max last year? You are really underestimating what market value means. You think because he asks for it, the Knicks will give it?

You're kidding yourself if you think if kanter plays anything like this that other teams won't offer huge$

Knixkik wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

Knixkik wrote:

anrst wrote:when the trade went down people were praying for him to opt out

Yeah its crazy to think about now. He's earning his contract. But it's also great to think about how he might resign for significantly less money because of the market.

If he plays anywhere near what he is( I'm assuming he's now healthy) if you were his agent-- it would be impossible not to ask for close to a 5 year max

He will ask because it's his job. Then the knicks will counter with something significantly less. Then what? Briggs, who offers Kanter anywhere near the max? Why is an agent asking for max even relevant? Look at what happened what Noel's agent asked for the max last year? You are really underestimating what market value means. You think because he asks for it, the Knicks will give it?

When you think about it, he still only plays half a game. You can't give max money for that. Throw in the fact that none of the players in the upcoming free agency market look like potential destinations and I think it's safe to say Kanter opts in. Maybe he opts out with the understanding that we'll sign him to a longer term contract?

The real question needs to go to what we do with Noah, Willy and KOQ. 2 of those guys have to go.

Hardaway needs to get healthy. Courtney Lee has been great for us. We need better support from our bench. At times the guys we have can be brilliant. Other times they are a waste of space. Scott Perry has a really tough job to sort this all out

BRIGGS wrote:

Knixkik wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

Knixkik wrote:

anrst wrote:when the trade went down people were praying for him to opt out

Yeah its crazy to think about now. He's earning his contract. But it's also great to think about how he might resign for significantly less money because of the market.

If he plays anywhere near what he is( I'm assuming he's now healthy) if you were his agent-- it would be impossible not to ask for close to a 5 year max

He will ask because it's his job. Then the knicks will counter with something significantly less. Then what? Briggs, who offers Kanter anywhere near the max? Why is an agent asking for max even relevant? Look at what happened what Noel's agent asked for the max last year? You are really underestimating what market value means. You think because he asks for it, the Knicks will give it?

You're kidding yourself if you think if kanter plays anything like this that other teams won't offer huge$

I think you're way off on this. Kanter is putting up great numbers, but a 14 and 10 player does not get anything near max in this market. You have 4 teams with money to spend. He is a low post player who doesn't play outside or block shots and is the complete opposite as what's trending today. His value is partially because of how well he compliments KP and vice versa. He is lucky you aren't his agent, because it would be Noel all over again.

EnySpree wrote:Kanter wants to be here. He associates the team with family. He adopted the city. He's very friendly with the fans. I think he will override his agent to stay here. We have a good thing going with Kanter and KP.... we can't keep flipping guys chasing draft picks and cheap value players.

The real question needs to go to what we do with Noah, Willy and KOQ. 2 of those guys have to go.

Hardaway needs to get healthy. Courtney Lee has been great for us. We need better support from our bench. At times the guys we have can be brilliant. Other times they are a waste of space. Scott Perry has a really tough job to sort this all out

BigDaddyG wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

BigDaddyG wrote:

Knixkik wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

Knixkik wrote:

anrst wrote:when the trade went down people were praying for him to opt out

Yeah its crazy to think about now. He's earning his contract. But it's also great to think about how he might resign for significantly less money because of the market.

If he plays anywhere near what he is( I'm assuming he's now healthy) if you were his agent-- it would be impossible not to ask for close to a 5 year max

He will ask because it's his job. Then the knicks will counter with something significantly less. Then what? Briggs, who offers Kanter anywhere near the max? Why is an agent asking for max even relevant? Look at what happened what Noel's agent asked for the max last year? You are really underestimating what market value means. You think because he asks for it, the Knicks will give it?

When you think about it, he still only plays half a game. You can't give max money for that. Throw in the fact that none of the players in the upcoming free agency market look like potential destinations and I think it's safe to say Kanter opts in. Maybe he opts out with the understanding that we'll sign him to a longer term contract?

I don't see under almost any circumstance barring injury-- a scenario where he doesn't opt out-- how irresponsible would that be? If kanter gets hurt and leaves 75-100 mm on table-- isn't happening

Is he leaving $75-$100 on the table? Kanter's agent needs to read the market so his client doesn't end up like Nerlens Noel.

Noel less than 1 dimensional...not an offensive threat or a defensive stalwart...he is a rim runner...he should have taken the 70 mill DAL offered with an opt out after 2 or 3 yrs...

GoNyGoNyGo wrote:He loves NY, He will opt-in and stay.

He is a good fit next to KP.

He seemed to like Okc to. So he shouldn’t feel that ny should show loyalty but he should? I think what will happen is a 4-5 yr contract over 10

ekstarks94 wrote:

BigDaddyG wrote:

EnySpree wrote:Kanter wants to be here. He associates the team with family. He adopted the city. He's very friendly with the fans. I think he will override his agent to stay here. We have a good thing going with Kanter and KP.... we can't keep flipping guys chasing draft picks and cheap value players.

The real question needs to go to what we do with Noah, Willy and KOQ. 2 of those guys have to go.

Hardaway needs to get healthy. Courtney Lee has been great for us. We need better support from our bench. At times the guys we have can be brilliant. Other times they are a waste of space. Scott Perry has a really tough job to sort this all out

I think Perry was being honest when he acknowledged that this was going to be a rebuilding year. A couple of things fell into place and we're better than expected, but we're still rebuilding. I can't be too upset because the roster is what it is. I agree, that we need to figure out what to do with our spare bigs. But let's be honest, no of those guys are going to bring back the wing help we need unless we package our first. Is it worth it at this point? I don't think so.

If Willy did not regress...which I strongly believe is temporary...he would bring us something decent...dunno about now

This is the argument we keep going back to and I'm willing to bet the Knicks front office is doing the same. What we do know is we have to factor Kanter in to the Knicks prime equation. Noah contract is nuts.... we love KOQ but he's the one guy prime for an unwanted contract. Willy is not going to give us more than Kanter as far as on floor production. The Knicks will be more than fine with Kanter, Noah and KP playing center. Knicks need to see what they can get for KOQ, Willy and possibly Derm