Shout to Kanter and KOQ last night as well.

misterearl wrote:Did Beasley describe himself as a left-handed Melo?

Cool.

The funny part is that at this point, his skill set may be a better productivity fit. Imagine if Melo accepted coming off the bench in OKC, but I digress. This is not a Melo thread of thought but a celebration of a migrant worker who may have found a home in the world’s most famous arena.

McDermott, Ntilikina, Baker and O’Quinn dug in on DEFENSE as Knicks second unit withstood a Boston push and where given the trust of Hornacek to close out the game. A beautiful thing. A signal of team work on a night our most publicized player was shooting blanks. Literally. Blanks.

If New Yorkers continue to show Michael Beasley love, he may return the affection with continued focus, on and off the court. Talent has never been his issue. It’s a love thing at The Garden. The Spree analogy is worthy of consideration. Why? Because New Yorkers ADORE a good comeback story.

Beasley was a superstar off the bench, like you said the talent was always there. this time around it looks like he finally wants to play basketball mix that with one of the most talented offensive players in the game and you have a star!

If Beasley wants to be a star he can be one, what better place then MSG to have a wake up party! I hope he stays in a knick uniform for a while having a Beasley off the bench is deadly!

fishmike wrote:TEAM BASKETBALL is beautiful. You got it wrong Earl.

Give Beasley all the credit he deserves. Beas is a talented individual scorer with a history of poor defense, sporadic effort at best when the ball isnt in his hands and very suspect decision making. Now when we add Beas it made sense. We already had a ton of young guys and were short on scoring. Considering the cost (none) giving Beas a shot made sense.

Early in the season he lost his minutes for poor defense, sporadic effort and poor decisions. He had 5 DNPs in Nov and 3 other games where he played single digit minutes. Lance took his minutes at the backup 4. This was the right call. Lance brought D and effort. The right call vs. Beas forcing shots and playing suspect defense.

Then the November full of DNPs and inconsistent minutes.

Then we see two magical things happen that never happens in Knick world. A positive culture has a positive effect and a player's attitude turns around for the positive and benefit of the team.

There is no point of debating chicken and egg. This is not about giving this guy credit or that guy credit. Its about giving them ALL credit. Since purging the me-first players who dont defend and the president how had issues letting his coaches coach this culture is different and Jeff Hornecek is empowered. He is empowered by the support of his roster, his front office and the ability to sit anyone who's effort or style of play is not conducive to a team first approach.

We have seen the effect of this culture on the floor. It is early stages for sure but also undeniable.

Now the Michael Beasley part. He surely sees himself a more talented player than Lance, McD or whoever else was taking his minutes. In the past this was the surest way to ensure a miserable player and typical Knick dysfunction in the locker room. However that doesnt exist now. What the coach wanted and what Beas was failing to deliver were very clear. Transparency. So it forces Beas to be mature. To be ready. To practice hard. To show the guys he's willing to work too. To say "OK coach, you want that? I can do that."

He's still B-Easy through and through. But watch him and the change is undeniable. Beas is taking better shots. He's treating his 1-1 defensive matchups like its a pay game on the playground and his weed money is at stake. Dude is bringing it. Even when Tatum scored late last night Beas made him work or nail a great shot. Beas is moving the ball. He's still B-Easy but he's working hard on the other things and his teammates SEE him working hard on the other things.

Last night was an amazing example of individual talents and skills working together to elevate the team as a whole. You had Frank/Ron/KOQ playing defense like every possession was the last. You had McBuckets who spreads the floor and seems to have no fear like the rest of the roster.

Bottom line... awesome work from Beasley on the floor, on the bench, in the gym, in the locker room and at practice. You see the team's reaction after the game? That is what you see from a team that works and plays for the TEAM.

When a guy with Beasley's baggage comes in you see this progression from poor player to being benched to coming back as he did it speaks volumes about the team culture. This is something we have not had since JVG was the coach and rode Camby about his rebounding.

The Beas story is great. The Mills/Perry/Hornecek story, and what they are creating post Phil/Melo is even more great. Downright magical if I do say so myself.

Good take!
While we are worlds apart, the knicks are having a "Spurs" kind of moment. Plug a talented player into a system who when he buys in enhances the team and in effect puts up big number. THis vs. Give the ball to him and see what he can bring. Beas game was based on his rebounding and defense. He got hot and we called his number.
He was a closer. When KP sits he gets an opportunity.
For those that saw the game in charlotte, especially his travel call in the middle of the damn floor no less, it was a classic B-easy moment. He also was lazy on a few plays and he got yanked.
He was the flavor of the night and he closed out what was looking like a loss. Beas has the offensive talent to be Melo-lite and hang 20 pts a night. GS, spurs, any good team offense is born from good defense.

It was great to see team celebrate at center court with Beas. Im not ready to resign him for 45mil over three years quite yet. JR money BTW.

Nalod wrote:

fishmike wrote:TEAM BASKETBALL is beautiful. You got it wrong Earl.

Give Beasley all the credit he deserves. Beas is a talented individual scorer with a history of poor defense, sporadic effort at best when the ball isnt in his hands and very suspect decision making. Now when we add Beas it made sense. We already had a ton of young guys and were short on scoring. Considering the cost (none) giving Beas a shot made sense.

Early in the season he lost his minutes for poor defense, sporadic effort and poor decisions. He had 5 DNPs in Nov and 3 other games where he played single digit minutes. Lance took his minutes at the backup 4. This was the right call. Lance brought D and effort. The right call vs. Beas forcing shots and playing suspect defense.

Then the November full of DNPs and inconsistent minutes.

Then we see two magical things happen that never happens in Knick world. A positive culture has a positive effect and a player's attitude turns around for the positive and benefit of the team.

There is no point of debating chicken and egg. This is not about giving this guy credit or that guy credit. Its about giving them ALL credit. Since purging the me-first players who dont defend and the president how had issues letting his coaches coach this culture is different and Jeff Hornecek is empowered. He is empowered by the support of his roster, his front office and the ability to sit anyone who's effort or style of play is not conducive to a team first approach.

We have seen the effect of this culture on the floor. It is early stages for sure but also undeniable.

Now the Michael Beasley part. He surely sees himself a more talented player than Lance, McD or whoever else was taking his minutes. In the past this was the surest way to ensure a miserable player and typical Knick dysfunction in the locker room. However that doesnt exist now. What the coach wanted and what Beas was failing to deliver were very clear. Transparency. So it forces Beas to be mature. To be ready. To practice hard. To show the guys he's willing to work too. To say "OK coach, you want that? I can do that."

He's still B-Easy through and through. But watch him and the change is undeniable. Beas is taking better shots. He's treating his 1-1 defensive matchups like its a pay game on the playground and his weed money is at stake. Dude is bringing it. Even when Tatum scored late last night Beas made him work or nail a great shot. Beas is moving the ball. He's still B-Easy but he's working hard on the other things and his teammates SEE him working hard on the other things.

Last night was an amazing example of individual talents and skills working together to elevate the team as a whole. You had Frank/Ron/KOQ playing defense like every possession was the last. You had McBuckets who spreads the floor and seems to have no fear like the rest of the roster.

Bottom line... awesome work from Beasley on the floor, on the bench, in the gym, in the locker room and at practice. You see the team's reaction after the game? That is what you see from a team that works and plays for the TEAM.

When a guy with Beasley's baggage comes in you see this progression from poor player to being benched to coming back as he did it speaks volumes about the team culture. This is something we have not had since JVG was the coach and rode Camby about his rebounding.

The Beas story is great. The Mills/Perry/Hornecek story, and what they are creating post Phil/Melo is even more great. Downright magical if I do say so myself.

Good take!
While we are worlds apart, the knicks are having a "Spurs" kind of moment. Plug a talented player into a system who when he buys in enhances the team and in effect puts up big number. THis vs. Give the ball to him and see what he can bring. Beas game was based on his rebounding and defense. He got hot and we called his number.
He was a closer. When KP sits he gets an opportunity.
For those that saw the game in charlotte, especially his travel call in the middle of the damn floor no less, it was a classic B-easy moment. He also was lazy on a few plays and he got yanked.
He was the flavor of the night and he closed out what was looking like a loss. Beas has the offensive talent to be Melo-lite and hang 20 pts a night. GS, spurs, any good team offense is born from good defense.

It was great to see team celebrate at center court with Beas. Im not ready to resign him for 45mil over three years quite yet. JR money BTW.

Jack is here because Perry vouched for him. And suprising Beasley is here because Rambis vouched for him. Beasley may feel a bit of gratitude toward Rambis for getting him this opportunity. Staying humble and showing maturity. These guys are all acting like how Pros should act. Knowing that it could all be gone in a hurry. Perry even has praised Sessions for how he has handled his benching earlier in the season. When you add in Kanter, Lance, KOQ, Lee, Doug. Jeff gotta love coaching these guys.

fishmike wrote:TEAM BASKETBALL is beautiful. You got it wrong Earl.

Give Beasley all the credit he deserves. Beas is a talented individual scorer with a history of poor defense, sporadic effort at best when the ball isnt in his hands and very suspect decision making. Now when we add Beas it made sense. We already had a ton of young guys and were short on scoring. Considering the cost (none) giving Beas a shot made sense.

Early in the season he lost his minutes for poor defense, sporadic effort and poor decisions. He had 5 DNPs in Nov and 3 other games where he played single digit minutes. Lance took his minutes at the backup 4. This was the right call. Lance brought D and effort. The right call vs. Beas forcing shots and playing suspect defense.

Then the November full of DNPs and inconsistent minutes.

Then we see two magical things happen that never happens in Knick world. A positive culture has a positive effect and a player's attitude turns around for the positive and benefit of the team.

There is no point of debating chicken and egg. This is not about giving this guy credit or that guy credit. Its about giving them ALL credit. Since purging the me-first players who dont defend and the president who had issues letting his coaches coach this culture is different and Jeff Hornecek is empowered. He is empowered by the support of his roster, his front office and the ability to sit anyone who's effort or style of play is not conducive to a team first approach.

We have seen the effect of this culture on the floor. It is early stages for sure but also undeniable.

Now the Michael Beasley part. He surely sees himself a more talented player than Lance, McD or whoever else was taking his minutes. In the past this was the surest way to ensure a miserable player and typical Knick dysfunction in the locker room. However that doesnt exist now. What the coach wanted and what Beas was failing to deliver were very clear. Transparency. So it forces Beas to be mature. To be ready. To practice hard. To show the guys he's willing to work too. To say "OK coach, you want that? I can do that."

He's still B-Easy through and through. But watch him and the change is undeniable. Beas is taking better shots. He's treating his 1-1 defensive matchups like its a pay game on the playground and his weed money is at stake. Dude is bringing it. Even when Tatum scored late last night Beas made him work or nail a great shot. Beas is moving the ball. He's still B-Easy but he's working hard on the other things and his teammates SEE him working hard on the other things.

Last night was an amazing example of individual talents and skills working together to elevate the team as a whole. You had Frank/Ron/KOQ playing defense like every possession was the last. You had McBuckets who spreads the floor and seems to have no fear like the rest of the roster.

Bottom line... awesome work from Beasley on the floor, on the bench, in the gym, in the locker room and at practice. You see the team's reaction after the game? That is what you see from a team that works and plays for the TEAM.

When a guy with Beasley's baggage comes in you see this progression from poor player to being benched to coming back as he did it speaks volumes about the team culture. This is something we have not had since JVG was the coach and rode Camby about his rebounding.

The Beas story is great. The Mills/Perry/Hornecek story, and what they are creating post Phil/Melo is even more great. Downright magical if I do say so myself.

fishmike - in your rush to always be "right" about something you miss the point. Nowhere has The Answer Man EVER exulted individual play OVER team basketball. and you know you it. Rather than rushing to prejudge you would be wise to just breathe and enjoy a win over the Boston Celtics in the spirit it was expressed. Not just your "expert" analysis.

Yeah, I said it.

The Answer Man may not always be right, but he is never wrong.

misterearl wrote:

fishmike wrote:TEAM BASKETBALL is beautiful. You got it wrong Earl.

Give Beasley all the credit he deserves. Beas is a talented individual scorer with a history of poor defense, sporadic effort at best when the ball isnt in his hands and very suspect decision making. Now when we add Beas it made sense. We already had a ton of young guys and were short on scoring. Considering the cost (none) giving Beas a shot made sense.

Early in the season he lost his minutes for poor defense, sporadic effort and poor decisions. He had 5 DNPs in Nov and 3 other games where he played single digit minutes. Lance took his minutes at the backup 4. This was the right call. Lance brought D and effort. The right call vs. Beas forcing shots and playing suspect defense.

Then the November full of DNPs and inconsistent minutes.

Then we see two magical things happen that never happens in Knick world. A positive culture has a positive effect and a player's attitude turns around for the positive and benefit of the team.

There is no point of debating chicken and egg. This is not about giving this guy credit or that guy credit. Its about giving them ALL credit. Since purging the me-first players who dont defend and the president who had issues letting his coaches coach this culture is different and Jeff Hornecek is empowered. He is empowered by the support of his roster, his front office and the ability to sit anyone who's effort or style of play is not conducive to a team first approach.

We have seen the effect of this culture on the floor. It is early stages for sure but also undeniable.

Now the Michael Beasley part. He surely sees himself a more talented player than Lance, McD or whoever else was taking his minutes. In the past this was the surest way to ensure a miserable player and typical Knick dysfunction in the locker room. However that doesnt exist now. What the coach wanted and what Beas was failing to deliver were very clear. Transparency. So it forces Beas to be mature. To be ready. To practice hard. To show the guys he's willing to work too. To say "OK coach, you want that? I can do that."

He's still B-Easy through and through. But watch him and the change is undeniable. Beas is taking better shots. He's treating his 1-1 defensive matchups like its a pay game on the playground and his weed money is at stake. Dude is bringing it. Even when Tatum scored late last night Beas made him work or nail a great shot. Beas is moving the ball. He's still B-Easy but he's working hard on the other things and his teammates SEE him working hard on the other things.

Last night was an amazing example of individual talents and skills working together to elevate the team as a whole. You had Frank/Ron/KOQ playing defense like every possession was the last. You had McBuckets who spreads the floor and seems to have no fear like the rest of the roster.

Bottom line... awesome work from Beasley on the floor, on the bench, in the gym, in the locker room and at practice. You see the team's reaction after the game? That is what you see from a team that works and plays for the TEAM.

When a guy with Beasley's baggage comes in you see this progression from poor player to being benched to coming back as he did it speaks volumes about the team culture. This is something we have not had since JVG was the coach and rode Camby about his rebounding.

The Beas story is great. The Mills/Perry/Hornecek story, and what they are creating post Phil/Melo is even more great. Downright magical if I do say so myself.

fishmike - in your rush to always be "right" about something you miss the point. Nowhere has The Answer Man EVER exulted individual play OVER team basketball. and you know you it. Rather than rushing to prejudge you would be wise to just breathe and enjoy a win over the Boston Celtics in the spirit it was expressed. Not just your "expert" analysis.

Yeah, I said it.

The Answer Man may not always be right, but he is never wrong.

My need to be right? About what? The good team play? Your posts are more fun when you make sense. Rushing to prejudge? Whatcha drinking man?

He has been the biggest surprise, to me, so far. I hope he can keep this up for the season.