Vmart wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:I dont know why such a disparity--but this looks like a lottery team when playing away from home and a feisty playoff team at home. The problem is we are -8 home to road--and if this sustains well be in the 10th playoffs spot or worse by end of January. Need to fix this quickly. Its not so much we dont have KP or hardaway-its the way we play. We play awful basketball on the road.

It’s a know fact that backup players don’t play as well on the road as home. As long as the Knicks sitting out their starters on the road they will lose a lot more than win. I don’t think the Knicksnhave played a road game with their starters all there.

I dont agree with that. The Spurs throw G League line ups out and win games. Good teams lose players and other step up. We have been getting destroyed on the road--non competitive.

We don't have the depth of stars where we can miss our top 2 and still win on the road.
The fact that we won against OKC and other teams, Nets on the road, in itself was a miracle.

I'll take the loss and prefer we get a healthy KP and THJ for the late season stretch. If we can stay in striking distance all year within the playoffs and then KP is healthy late in the season, we can make that push.

BRIGGS wrote:

nyknickzingis wrote:Can't win road games when so much firepower is out.
25-30 points from KP (although he has not been the same player on the road either)
15-20 points from THJ.

We don't have the depth of stars where we can miss our top 2 and still win on the road.
The fact that we won against OKC and other teams, Nets on the road, in itself was a miracle.

I'll take the loss and prefer we get a healthy KP and THJ for the late season stretch. If we can stay in striking distance all year within the playoffs and then KP is healthy late in the season, we can make that push.

Its not that we lose--its that we are non competitive.

The spurs had a hall a fame player in David Robinson.....and they got the number 1 pick because he was injured. And even when healthy they were losing. So don't look at the spurs now....look at them b4 Duncan. It's a process where texas fans had to wait it out. Knick fans have no patience. We just starting to develop a win ing culture.....Culture doesn't change overnight. If KP and THJ continue to ride the bench.....like David Robinson did.....We could land a culture changing pick.....We don't have enough talent to win games consistently with out our top two players. Some of our roll players probably wouldn't be in the league right now if it wasn't for the knicks. For examble.....Beas is our best player now.....and he couldnt find a team to take him so he played overseas. Some of the spurs players are solid roll players or talented enough to be a starter. Their system is mature right now. And they found some hidden. gems over the years picking late in the first. Give it time. It will take a while b4 we become that solid where we don't need KP to win games. But without KP and THJ....thats like taking any top two players off the team.....how would they look. Cavs for example have better roll players than us. sit their best two players and they would struggle to win games.

BRIGGS wrote:

blkexec wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

nyknickzingis wrote:Can't win road games when so much firepower is out.
25-30 points from KP (although he has not been the same player on the road either)
15-20 points from THJ.

We don't have the depth of stars where we can miss our top 2 and still win on the road.
The fact that we won against OKC and other teams, Nets on the road, in itself was a miracle.

I'll take the loss and prefer we get a healthy KP and THJ for the late season stretch. If we can stay in striking distance all year within the playoffs and then KP is healthy late in the season, we can make that push.

Its not that we lose--its that we are non competitive.

The spurs had a hall a fame player in David Robinson.....and they got the number 1 pick because he was injured. And even when healthy they were losing. So don't look at the spurs now....look at them b4 Duncan. It's a process where texas fans had to wait it out. Knick fans have no patience. We just starting to develop a win ing culture.....Culture doesn't change overnight. If KP and THJ continue to ride the bench.....like David Robinson did.....We could land a culture changing pick.....We don't have enough talent to win games consistently with out our top two players. Some of our roll players probably wouldn't be in the league right now if it wasn't for the knicks. For examble.....Beas is our best player now.....and he couldnt find a team to take him so he played overseas. Some of the spurs players are solid roll players or talented enough to be a starter. Their system is mature right now. And they found some hidden. gems over the years picking late in the first. Give it time. It will take a while b4 we become that solid where we don't need KP to win games. But without KP and THJ....thats like taking any top two players off the team.....how would they look. Cavs for example have better roll players than us. sit their best two players and they would struggle to win games.

Nah --good teams win on the road with players down. We are not just losing we are non competitive

BRIGGS wrote:

blkexec wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

nyknickzingis wrote:Can't win road games when so much firepower is out.
25-30 points from KP (although he has not been the same player on the road either)
15-20 points from THJ.

We don't have the depth of stars where we can miss our top 2 and still win on the road.
The fact that we won against OKC and other teams, Nets on the road, in itself was a miracle.

I'll take the loss and prefer we get a healthy KP and THJ for the late season stretch. If we can stay in striking distance all year within the playoffs and then KP is healthy late in the season, we can make that push.

Its not that we lose--its that we are non competitive.

The spurs had a hall a fame player in David Robinson.....and they got the number 1 pick because he was injured. And even when healthy they were losing. So don't look at the spurs now....look at them b4 Duncan. It's a process where texas fans had to wait it out. Knick fans have no patience. We just starting to develop a win ing culture.....Culture doesn't change overnight. If KP and THJ continue to ride the bench.....like David Robinson did.....We could land a culture changing pick.....We don't have enough talent to win games consistently with out our top two players. Some of our roll players probably wouldn't be in the league right now if it wasn't for the knicks. For examble.....Beas is our best player now.....and he couldnt find a team to take him so he played overseas. Some of the spurs players are solid roll players or talented enough to be a starter. Their system is mature right now. And they found some hidden. gems over the years picking late in the first. Give it time. It will take a while b4 we become that solid where we don't need KP to win games. But without KP and THJ....thats like taking any top two players off the team.....how would they look. Cavs for example have better roll players than us. sit their best two players and they would struggle to win games.

Nah --good teams win on the road with players down. We are not just losing we are non competitive