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Should Marbury be the team captain?
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firefly
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9/1/2004  1:56 PM
On one hand, his brooding and lack of communication with his teammates may ruin locker room harmony and lead to infighting etc. On the other hand, since he's anyway THE point guard people will be looking to him for guidance anyway, so maybe making it official might make him realize that he has to be the focal point in everything, not just specific play but on the bench and in the locker room as well. And considering this team doesn't have a real leader figure outside of maybe Penny, this might force Steph to become just that.

I think this is the next step to him becoming the present day Isiah that the real Isiah wants him to become.
What do you guys think?
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9/1/2004  1:59 PM
No. I think the captain is H20 and it should stay like that. I also might consider Penny for team Captain but not Marbury. I think he might mistake being captain as a license to shoot whenever he wants. I'm not so sure I would want it like that.
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9/1/2004  2:01 PM
maybe co-captain...but as long as Houston is here, you can't take that away from him.
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9/1/2004  2:21 PM
Posted by TMS:

maybe co-captain...but as long as Houston is here, you can't take that away from him.

I'd like to see Marbury EARN the right to be co-captain through his play and leadership for the Knicks this year. Being the team's best player dosen't entitle him to be captain. It means being a leader, a team player, mentoring the young guys, getting TT to play up to his potential, stepping up in a big game, taking responsibilty after a tough loss, or sacrificing his stats if needed for the good of the team.

Marbs is a veteran in this league and needs to play like one, and act like one, to take the Knicks where we all would like them to go. If he leads them well, I'd be glad to see him named co-captain next year.
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9/1/2004  2:22 PM
V, he thinks he has a licence to shoot whenever he wants anyway. He's the superstar of the team. Maybe giving him this responsibility will make him pause for thought before each unadvised so-long-its-almost-a-four shot.

And I don't think co-captains would work on this team. It really only works where there are two stars if the team, or none at all. I don't have a problem taking the captaincy away from Houston. He got the job by default anyway as the star of the team. But he's been supplanted by someone now (possibly two people, with TT in there), and the job should go to the right man.
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9/1/2004  2:26 PM
I think Moochie should be team captain
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9/1/2004  2:29 PM
nah, Frederic Weis. he can be our inspiration from France, long may he stay there
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9/1/2004  2:35 PM
Posted by firefly:

V, he thinks he has a licence to shoot whenever he wants anyway. He's the superstar of the team. Maybe giving him this responsibility will make him pause for thought before each unadvised so-long-its-almost-a-four shot.

And I don't think co-captains would work on this team. It really only works where there are two stars if the team, or none at all. I don't have a problem taking the captaincy away from Houston. He got the job by default anyway as the star of the team. But he's been supplanted by someone now (possibly two people, with TT in there), and the job should go to the right man.
good post.
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9/1/2004  2:36 PM
Its H20's until he gives it up, gets exiled (traded) or retires.

No co-caps.

IN time, providing Isiah does not trade him, and he morphs into the leader we need him to be, yes he should be. And yes, he needs to earn the respect and trust to be an effective leader.

Penny? Never. TT? LOL!
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9/1/2004  2:40 PM
you don't have to be a big star on the team to be a captain...Charles Oakley was co-captain (or was it tri-captain w/Ewing & LJ?)...i don't see why Marbury & Houston couldn't share the role...as long as Marbury proved himself worthy of it like CTKnicksfan said earlier, i would have no problem w/it.
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9/1/2004  2:45 PM
Posted by firefly:

And I don't think co-captains would work on this team. It really only works where there are two stars if the team, or none at all.

Ewing and Oak were co-caps for years, even though Ewing was a star and Oak really wasn't. Hell even Herb Williams was a captain for a short time, along with Ewing and Oak (They were "tri-captains") I would like to see Marbs eventaully become a co-captain and leader for the Knicks, but there's no need to strip Houston of his leadership role in order to recognize Marbury's.
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9/1/2004  2:56 PM
no one on this team deserves to be named captain yet. Maybe Marbury in a few years after he shows what he can do in the playoffs.

[Edited by - gunsnewing on 09/01/2004 15:56:53]
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9/1/2004  3:35 PM
Posted by gunsnewing:

no one on this team deserves to be named captain et. Maybe Marbury in a few years after he shows what he can do in the playoffs.
say whats on ur mind dude, don't beat around the bush. spit it out.
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9/1/2004  3:57 PM
hahaha and Allan Houston should be stripped of his captaincy lol
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9/1/2004  4:37 PM
Posted by firefly:

On one hand, his brooding and lack of communication with his teammates may ruin locker room harmony and lead to infighting etc.
What? I never saw him brooding; I never saw him lacking commuincations with his teammates; I never saw him ruining the locker room harmony; and I never saw him leading to fighting in NY either
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9/1/2004  5:07 PM
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Originally Posted By Bonn1997
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Originally posted by firefly:

On one hand, his brooding and lack of communication with his teammates may ruin locker room harmony and lead to infighting etc.
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What? I never saw him brooding; I never saw him lacking commuincations with his teammates; I never saw him ruining the locker room harmony; and I never saw him leading to fighting in NY either

Hey, no need to bite my head off, dude!

look, Marbury's kinda like the dark genius. He doesnt interact with his teammates that much. He doesnt talk much in the lockerroom. He just does his thing. In Phoenix, his style led to infighting and the other two stars on the team felt alienated by him and were probably happy he left. That doesnt make him a troublemaker in the locker room, byt it certainly doesnt make him a leader.

I was just saying that maybe the responsibility will shake him out of his moods and make him interact with the team more and help them participate in what he's trying to do. In other words, to make him more of a leader, which is what we need him to be.

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9/1/2004  5:23 PM
Stephon looked to be interacting well with his teammates in Athens...i saw him communicating often w/the coaches & the younger guys like Carmelo, & even Iverson at times.
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9/1/2004  5:33 PM
Didn't we already have basically the same thread a while back? Oh well...kinda bored, I'll go hunt around for it.
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9/1/2004  6:11 PM
I dont think Marbury should be named captain or even co-captain until he has had at least a full season under his belt.For all the knocks on Houston,he shouldnt have to share that honor until Marbury or any one else for that matter proves that they deserve it and Marbury hasnt done that yet.
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9/1/2004  7:09 PM
He doesnt talk much in the lockerroom.
They let you in the lockerroom? How did that happen?
Should Marbury be the team captain?

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