Believe Noah can be very helpful in a playoff situation (provided we get there), and this logjam gives the Knicks the "luxury" of resting Noah and increasing his minutes near the end of the season. Pretty sure Noah can go all out for a short stretch here and there, and give us some quality minutes. Noah's days getting major minutes are over.

knickscity wrote:KP doesn't have that hot start if Kanter wasn't there. Kanter actually is a future piece, Noah and Oquinn are not.

Bonn1997 wrote:

knickscity wrote:KP doesn't have that hot start if Kanter wasn't there. Kanter actually is a future piece, Noah and Oquinn are not.

I'm not sure what to make of KP's hot start. I haven't looked at the #s carefully but I seem to remember him having great starts each year and then falling off. I'm not sure if it's a durability issue or just a coincidence.

The all around game that KP showed early in the season, isnt there. You're just the man to ask. How much less is he posting up, numbers wise? Because Im seeing a lot less of it. Looks like KP is reverting back to his old game, maybe out of habit.

CrushAlot wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

knickscity wrote:KP doesn't have that hot start if Kanter wasn't there. Kanter actually is a future piece, Noah and Oquinn are not.

I'm not sure what to make of KP's hot start. I haven't looked at the #s carefully but I seem to remember him having great starts each year and then falling off. I'm not sure if it's a durability issue or just a coincidence.

The all around game that KP showed early in the season, isnt there. You're just the man to ask. How much less is he posting up, numbers wise? Because Im seeing a lot less of it. Looks like KP is reverting back to his old game, maybe out of habit.

That is a great question. I would love to know the numbers on that. I also think his elbow injury might have him avoiding contact a bit. He said earlier in the season that he needs surgery on his elbow. It's too bad because he bulked up this offseason. I would think surgery on his elbow would impede his offseason conditioning.

I really wonder if the organization is being impatient with his healing and is doing him long-term harm. Look at what an intelligent organization like the Rockets does: Chris Paul gets injured in game 1. They let him take a month off and he looks back to normal right away when he returns. They gave him time to fully heal. It didn't faze them that he missed 14 of the first 15 games. His long-term health is what really mattered. KP has multiple injuries and they gave him 1 game off. Then he comes back and looks like half the player he was.

Jmpasq wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:We should see what we can get for Kanter.

We simply have too much $ allocated at 5. Open up the cap space--see if we can get a pick and ending contract

Lee Kanter Noah and Oquinn should all be firmly on the block as of game 25--were not winning crp--were 1-8 on the road and -7 H away for games played.

GS puts cheap C in place and gets great results--so does SA. We cant have 45mm at the C.

KP needs a center that can score in the post and rebound like a fiend. Kanter checks a number of the boxes to maximize KP. Unless we can get Draymond Green somehow Kanter si the best we can do for now

...with Willy Hernangomez sitting on the bench, only being owed $2 million for this and next season? I disagree. I like Kanter but he is a misutilization of resources.

Bonn1997 wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

knickscity wrote:KP doesn't have that hot start if Kanter wasn't there. Kanter actually is a future piece, Noah and Oquinn are not.

I'm not sure what to make of KP's hot start. I haven't looked at the #s carefully but I seem to remember him having great starts each year and then falling off. I'm not sure if it's a durability issue or just a coincidence.

The all around game that KP showed early in the season, isnt there. You're just the man to ask. How much less is he posting up, numbers wise? Because Im seeing a lot less of it. Looks like KP is reverting back to his old game, maybe out of habit.

That is a great question. I would love to know the numbers on that. I also think his elbow injury might have him avoiding contact a bit. He said earlier in the season that he needs surgery on his elbow. It's too bad because he bulked up this offseason. I would think surgery on his elbow would impede his offseason conditioning.

I don't have the numbers on that. A quick look at the #s makes it clear his game went way downhill right after he came back from the elbow injury, though. He was putting up 30 to 40 point games on like 15 to 20 shots before the injury. In the 7 games before the injury, he shot 85 for 156 (.545%). Since, he has shot 79 for 195 (.405%).

I really wonder if the organization is being impatient with his healing and is doing him long-term harm. Look at what an intelligent organization like the Rockets does: Chris Paul gets injured in game 1. They let him take a month off and he looks back to normal right away when he returns. They gave him time to fully heal. It didn't faze them that he missed 14 of the first 15 games. His long-term health is what really mattered. KP has multiple injuries and they gave him 1 game off. Then he comes back and looks like half the player he was.

CrushAlot wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

knickscity wrote:KP doesn't have that hot start if Kanter wasn't there. Kanter actually is a future piece, Noah and Oquinn are not.

I'm not sure what to make of KP's hot start. I haven't looked at the #s carefully but I seem to remember him having great starts each year and then falling off. I'm not sure if it's a durability issue or just a coincidence.

The all around game that KP showed early in the season, isnt there. You're just the man to ask. How much less is he posting up, numbers wise? Because Im seeing a lot less of it. Looks like KP is reverting back to his old game, maybe out of habit.

That is a great question. I would love to know the numbers on that. I also think his elbow injury might have him avoiding contact a bit. He said earlier in the season that he needs surgery on his elbow. It's too bad because he bulked up this offseason. I would think surgery on his elbow would impede his offseason conditioning.

I don't have the numbers on that. A quick look at the #s makes it clear his game went way downhill right after he came back from the elbow injury, though. He was putting up 30 to 40 point games on like 15 to 20 shots before the injury. In the 7 games before the injury, he shot 85 for 156 (.545%). Since, he has shot 79 for 195 (.405%).

I really wonder if the organization is being impatient with his healing and is doing him long-term harm. Look at what an intelligent organization like the Rockets does: Chris Paul gets injured in game 1. They let him take a month off and he looks back to normal right away when he returns. They gave him time to fully heal. It didn't faze them that he missed 14 of the first 15 games. His long-term health is what really mattered. KP has multiple injuries and they gave him 1 game off. Then he comes back and looks like half the player he was.

interesting point about giving him time to just heal. I believe I read somewhere that Hardaway might have done further damage to his stress fracture playing through injuries.

Our management has always sucked when it comes to injuries - but I doubt KP would like to sit around as long as CP3 has. The age difference would account for why CP3 would welcome caution and KP would welcome indiscretion.