Frank is not the current flavor of the month Penetrating, dunking, Scoring PG. Thing is that’s not the only way to play PG. He just needs to develop his own game and style going forward. So far Frank is showing good progress.

nixluva wrote:Frank is a Phil/Gaines pick and just like KP, he is a very unique talent. As I’ve said he’s like a PG version of Kawhi. Some people hate on Phil and the Triangle and so they aren’t appreciating Frank is a Triangle type of PG. He’s effective in a Half Court Motion Offense. That’s not a bad thing!

Frank is not the current flavor of the month Penetrating, dunking, Scoring PG. Thing is that’s not the only way to play PG. He just needs to develop his own game and style going forward. So far Frank is showing good progress.

CrushAlot wrote:

Welpee wrote:

martin wrote:

meloshouldgo wrote:Common knowledge? Based on what?

Here's one take:

Tweet was deleted or there was problem with the URL:

https://twitter.com/Delblogo/status/941212664130400256

But what does that prove? He knew he was drafting 4th and it was unlikely Towns, Okafor or Russell would be available.

From the Phil Files,

The widely held assumption is that, should the Knicks secure the top pick, it's a tossup between whether Jackson would go with either Okafor or Towns. However, after recently watching Kentucky play and witnessing one of their practice sessions, Jackson has this to say about Towns: "For sure, he's a better defender than Okafor, but even in the limited minutes he got during the season, Towns was always in foul trouble. Also, he's not very core-strong. Plus, his big feet will make it difficult for him to maneuver through heavy traffic in the paint. I think in four years Towns will be a better NBA player that Okafor, but Okafor is more NBA-ready right now and we need help ASAP."

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/13347986/phil-files-part-6-turning-future

Thanks for finding this!!! I knew I read an article about phils infatuation with Ok4...

Uptown wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

Welpee wrote:

martin wrote:

meloshouldgo wrote:Common knowledge? Based on what?

Here's one take:

Tweet was deleted or there was problem with the URL:

https://twitter.com/Delblogo/status/941212664130400256

But what does that prove? He knew he was drafting 4th and it was unlikely Towns, Okafor or Russell would be available.

From the Phil Files,

The widely held assumption is that, should the Knicks secure the top pick, it's a tossup between whether Jackson would go with either Okafor or Towns. However, after recently watching Kentucky play and witnessing one of their practice sessions, Jackson has this to say about Towns: "For sure, he's a better defender than Okafor, but even in the limited minutes he got during the season, Towns was always in foul trouble. Also, he's not very core-strong. Plus, his big feet will make it difficult for him to maneuver through heavy traffic in the paint. I think in four years Towns will be a better NBA player that Okafor, but Okafor is more NBA-ready right now and we need help ASAP."

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/13347986/phil-files-part-6-turning-future

Thanks for finding this!!! I knew I read an article about phils infatuation with Ok4...

fishmike wrote:

Uptown wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

Welpee wrote:

martin wrote:

meloshouldgo wrote:Common knowledge? Based on what?

Here's one take:

Tweet was deleted or there was problem with the URL:

https://twitter.com/Delblogo/status/941212664130400256

But what does that prove? He knew he was drafting 4th and it was unlikely Towns, Okafor or Russell would be available.

From the Phil Files,

The widely held assumption is that, should the Knicks secure the top pick, it's a tossup between whether Jackson would go with either Okafor or Towns. However, after recently watching Kentucky play and witnessing one of their practice sessions, Jackson has this to say about Towns: "For sure, he's a better defender than Okafor, but even in the limited minutes he got during the season, Towns was always in foul trouble. Also, he's not very core-strong. Plus, his big feet will make it difficult for him to maneuver through heavy traffic in the paint. I think in four years Towns will be a better NBA player that Okafor, but Okafor is more NBA-ready right now and we need help ASAP."

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/13347986/phil-files-part-6-turning-future

Thanks for finding this!!! I knew I read an article about phils infatuation with Ok4...

validation! Uptown, now you can feel better about Phil backing into the KP pick do you still feel Frank is a "low value selection" with the 8th pick?

Nah...I feel great about the way KP is progressing and the way the Knicks are playing. I feel even better that the "Circus" no longer resides at the Garden. I'm on record as saying I would have picked DSJ in june but Frank is a Knick, so I'm rooting for him so succeed. His success = Knick success.

Uptown wrote:

fishmike wrote:

Uptown wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

Welpee wrote:

martin wrote:

meloshouldgo wrote:Common knowledge? Based on what?

Here's one take:

Tweet was deleted or there was problem with the URL:

https://twitter.com/Delblogo/status/941212664130400256

But what does that prove? He knew he was drafting 4th and it was unlikely Towns, Okafor or Russell would be available.

From the Phil Files,

The widely held assumption is that, should the Knicks secure the top pick, it's a tossup between whether Jackson would go with either Okafor or Towns. However, after recently watching Kentucky play and witnessing one of their practice sessions, Jackson has this to say about Towns: "For sure, he's a better defender than Okafor, but even in the limited minutes he got during the season, Towns was always in foul trouble. Also, he's not very core-strong. Plus, his big feet will make it difficult for him to maneuver through heavy traffic in the paint. I think in four years Towns will be a better NBA player that Okafor, but Okafor is more NBA-ready right now and we need help ASAP."

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/13347986/phil-files-part-6-turning-future

Thanks for finding this!!! I knew I read an article about phils infatuation with Ok4...

validation! Uptown, now you can feel better about Phil backing into the KP pick do you still feel Frank is a "low value selection" with the 8th pick?

Nah...I feel great about the way KP is progressing and the way the Knicks are playing. I feel even better that the "Circus" no longer resides at the Garden. I'm on record as saying I would have picked DSJ in june but Frank is a Knick, so I'm rooting for him so succeed. His success = Knick success.

As for Phil at the end of the day he was a godsend. He drafted Frank and KP. He god Dolan out of the mix. He was an absolute fool in the media and how he dealt with Melo but the bottom line is Phil paved the way for some critical things that hadnt happened in Dolan's MSG. Ever. We got rid of him at the perfect time.

Bottom line? Phil came in we had the Melo/Tyson crew. He left us with KP/Frank/Hornecek. The only lingering pain we are left with is Noah. Im not a Phil fan myself but if you look at the state of the franchise he took over vs. the state of if when he was let go Knick fans should be very grateful for this 3 years here.

Again... Phil was jettisoned at the perfect time... right before he could phuck up a Melo trade. But he left us with good young talent and set the next crew up for success. How much success time will tell.

Frank is easily my favorite Knick right now. He's the anti Melo, anti iso me-first culture. All he wants to do is win take on a challenge. Kids has heart, a high BB IQ and the wingspan of a praying mantis

Allanfan20 wrote:

Ira wrote:Frank played more minutes than JJ the last two games and the same number of minutes the game before those two. I love the way Hornacek is bringing him along and the way he runs the offense. He seems to have cut down on those silly turnovers that he used to commit.

I understand he’s not quite as explosive as other guards but I would love to see him attack the basket on the fast breaks the way he did that one time last night. I actually came away impressed even though it was “just” a lay-up. It will really open up his passing options once he starts doing that more.

He has length which you can't teach. I believe he may not have that arsenal of finishing moves that he is confident in as well confidence he can take contact and still finish. Once he has confidence in his ability to absorb contact and confidence in his ability to use his length and in his skill level to finish. He will become more aggressive attacking in these scenarios. Confidence breeds aggressiveness, practice breeds confidence.

nyknickzingis wrote:If Phil was so high on Okafor, why is that since Okafor has been on the trade block the last 2 years, that Phil didn't try to get him even once? If you're truly in love with a player, you see that player available in the future, you go grab him right away. Phil almost always takes the advice of Gaines, and Gaines is the one that sold him on KP. I don't get this inability to give Phil Jackson any credit for the moves he made that set the team up for a long time. KP, Frank, even role players like Lance, Ron, CLee. Willy was drafted in the second round, and is a solid trade asset if we decide to not keep him (but we should).

You can be bad at trades but still do good elsewhere. Jackson screwed up some trades, but drafting and longterm wise he set the Knicks up big time. We made out like bandits, considering we never really had a top 1 or 2 pick or were able to draft every single year up there. For all the talk about the young Lakers team we beat a few days ago, you look at where they drafted every year to get those guys. And in KP/Frank/Willy we have something to combat what they have despite not even having close to the same draft position or volume of picks. Come on, only a Phil hater wouldn't see the good he did in NY. There was bad, but there was definitely some good, especially for the longterm.

btw I loved OK4 in that draft and could not have been more wrong. After KP, Willy and the some of the undrafted guys they looked at or brought in I felt pretty good about our eye for new talent. My thought on Frank was simply trust. So far I love triangle guards!

newyorknewyork wrote:

fishmike wrote:

Uptown wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

Welpee wrote:

martin wrote:

meloshouldgo wrote:Common knowledge? Based on what?

Here's one take:

Tweet was deleted or there was problem with the URL:

https://twitter.com/Delblogo/status/941212664130400256

But what does that prove? He knew he was drafting 4th and it was unlikely Towns, Okafor or Russell would be available.

From the Phil Files,

The widely held assumption is that, should the Knicks secure the top pick, it's a tossup between whether Jackson would go with either Okafor or Towns. However, after recently watching Kentucky play and witnessing one of their practice sessions, Jackson has this to say about Towns: "For sure, he's a better defender than Okafor, but even in the limited minutes he got during the season, Towns was always in foul trouble. Also, he's not very core-strong. Plus, his big feet will make it difficult for him to maneuver through heavy traffic in the paint. I think in four years Towns will be a better NBA player that Okafor, but Okafor is more NBA-ready right now and we need help ASAP."

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/13347986/phil-files-part-6-turning-future

Thanks for finding this!!! I knew I read an article about phils infatuation with Ok4...

validation! Uptown, now you can feel better about Phil backing into the KP pick do you still feel Frank is a "low value selection" with the 8th pick?

And then this happen. You know at ACTUAL pre draft NBA workouts.

Rag EEVE
2 years ago
A scout just called him the best player in the draft after this workout 

Also Phil made it Crystal Clear what his thinking was on what he was looking for in the draft:

However, in selecting that talent look for the Knicks to think defense first. That’s what team president Phil Jackson told season ticket holders at an event Thursday, reports Ian Begley of ESPN.

“Gotta have a defender,” Jackson said. “… That’s a good starting point — a guy like Tyson Chandler (whom the Knicks traded over the summer) is the defensive backup that we have to have. In this day and age in our game, there are so many screen and rolls, so many 3-point shooters, so many things that a player of size has to (do). Not only cover the paint and protect the basket but he has to be able to step out defensively and play a guard. And do some defensive work on the extreme part of the floor so it’s very important that that player have defensive capabilities.”

That answer came in relation to a question about the draft. It suggests that should the Knicks land the top pick; they are among the growing number of teams leaning toward Kentucky’s Karl Towns over Duke’s Jahlil Okafor. Towns is the better defender (and the better free throw shooter).

newyorker4ever wrote:And i thought i was clicking into a thread about Frank