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meloshouldgo
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12/2/2017  12:29 PM
Tax bill has passed in the Senate 51-49, now the dumb****s that voted for these dumb****s will get even fewer benefits and even higher prices but yeah they'll be too busy celebrating the extra $2000/year they'll get to save on taxes, to notice.

If you have any real assets (investment property etc.), this is s good time incorporate. Rental income will be taxed at ghee lowest rate EVER. Guess who gets a bunch of his income from rentals?

The only things that trickle down are wages and horse shit
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12/2/2017  12:46 PM
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Nixluva is posting triangle screen grabs, even when nobody asks - Fishmike. LOL So are we going to reference that thread like the bible now? "The thread of Wroten Page 14 post 9" - EnySpree
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12/2/2017  12:59 PM
It's amazing how the Republicans have managed to keep people voting against their own best interests over and over again. This is just the final nail in the coffin that rich and big corps have been trying to put the Middle Class and Poor into for decades. They've managed to rig the system and push all the money to the top. Now they can suck the rest of the money from Social Security, Medicare and all social programs.

I shouldn't be so shocked by the Craven and Cruel nature of these people but it still does have me shaking my head in disbelief. These people already have IT ALL and yet that's not enough. They've gotta take the crumbs too.

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12/2/2017  1:21 PM    LAST EDITED: 12/2/2017  1:22 PM
I don't get how these rich politicians can be so shameless. Sheer greed
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12/2/2017  1:33 PM
These 2018 tax cuts for the wealthy and corporations will lead to deficits then in 2020 Republicans will run on fiscal responsibility and the need to cut spending social programs i.e medicare, welfare and social security.

Trump is also planning to change the FCC rules which says corporations can't own national and local media outlets in the same market. The net effect of this is to have local Fox News and National fox news and Fox News like newspapers all in the same market.

Bring back dee-fense
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12/2/2017  2:03 PM
nixluva wrote:It's amazing how the Republicans have managed to keep people voting against their own best interests over and over again. This is just the final nail in the coffin that rich and big corps have been trying to put the Middle Class and Poor into for decades. They've managed to rig the system and push all the money to the top. Now they can suck the rest of the money from Social Security, Medicare and all social programs.

I shouldn't be so shocked by the Craven and Cruel nature of these people but it still does have me shaking my head in disbelief. These people already have IT ALL and yet that's not enough. They've gotta take the crumbs too.

They are sitting on over 2 Trillion in profits (2015 data - current #s would be a lot higher) and it was the measly 400B that was keeping them from creating jobs. FUCKING HYPOCRITES
And 50% of the country fall for this **** every time they vote - democracy is truly custom built for the STOOPID

The only things that trickle down are wages and horse shit
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12/2/2017  4:21 PM
meloshouldgo wrote:
nixluva wrote:It's amazing how the Republicans have managed to keep people voting against their own best interests over and over again. This is just the final nail in the coffin that rich and big corps have been trying to put the Middle Class and Poor into for decades. They've managed to rig the system and push all the money to the top. Now they can suck the rest of the money from Social Security, Medicare and all social programs.

I shouldn't be so shocked by the Craven and Cruel nature of these people but it still does have me shaking my head in disbelief. These people already have IT ALL and yet that's not enough. They've gotta take the crumbs too.

They are sitting on over 2 Trillion in profits (2015 data - current #s would be a lot higher) and it was the measly 400B that was keeping them from creating jobs. FUCKING HYPOCRITES
And 50% of the country fall for this **** every time they vote - democracy is truly custom built for the STOOPID


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12/2/2017  4:32 PM
We don't have a pure democracy. We operate under a Constitutional Republic. Thank God you geniuses aren't running the place
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12/2/2017  5:35 PM
izybx wrote:We don't have a pure democracy. We operate under a Constitutional Republic. Thank God you geniuses aren't running the place

True, thats our system. At the same time, some of the founding fathers warned anyone who would listen of the very real dangers of unchecked corporate power. This tax bill is the end result of us not listening. We can pretend its the fault of just one party, but this has been a tag team affair, each playing their part.

It goes back to the switch about 40 years ago from Stakeholder Capitalism, to Shareholder Capitalism. Reward the shareholders above all, never mind anything else. Works out great if you own enough shares of something to really matter. Thats not the case for most Americans because wages have been flat for the better part of 40 years.

Decent wages for the poor and middle class hurts the stock price you know. Not enough the market is at an all time high, never is. Thats what our founding fathers tried to warn us about.

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12/2/2017  6:22 PM    LAST EDITED: 12/2/2017  6:22 PM
Its cool that American Middle class has a goose to be cooked.
Most of the world population have no goose, and many have nothing to eat at all...
As a citizen of Empire I am satisfied. Hail to the Emperor and Senators!!!
All we need is more Bread-with-butter and Entertainment.
As for the rest of the world... they will get their shot sooner or later but not in my lifetime.
He can teach them to meditate... but no one can control even his own mind...
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12/2/2017  7:18 PM
arkrud wrote:Its cool that American Middle class has a goose to be cooked.
Most of the world population have no goose, and many have nothing to eat at all...
As a citizen of Empire I am satisfied. Hail to the Emperor and Senators!!!
All we need is more Bread-with-butter and Entertainment.
As for the rest of the world... they will get their shot sooner or later but not in my lifetime.

The clarion call of the enabler. We also dont have Universal Health care, maternity leave, clean water, well funded schools, an infrastructure that isnt bordering on complete failure. A government that represents all classes either.

Guess we have to wait until we become Somalia to complain. Deregulation worked out great for them.

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12/2/2017  7:52 PM
You have to cheat, lie, and manipulate to get ahead of the curve in america. Why would this sht surprise anyone
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12/2/2017  8:54 PM
GustavBahler wrote:
arkrud wrote:Its cool that American Middle class has a goose to be cooked.
Most of the world population have no goose, and many have nothing to eat at all...
As a citizen of Empire I am satisfied. Hail to the Emperor and Senators!!!
All we need is more Bread-with-butter and Entertainment.
As for the rest of the world... they will get their shot sooner or later but not in my lifetime.

The clarion call of the enabler. We also dont have Universal Health care, maternity leave, clean water, well funded schools, an infrastructure that isnt bordering on complete failure. A government that represents all classes either.

Guess we have to wait until we become Somalia to complain. Deregulation worked out great for them.

We do not have many things but we have freedom for everyone to accept the live and things we have or move on to any other place where life is better.
Not to many are moving... I wonder why? Most likely this other place is hard to find.
People never value what they have and cry about what they do not have instead.
I guess this is human nature.
90% of the people of the world will consider everyone who is unsatisfied with his live in US as hypocrite of highest degree and for a good reason.

He can teach them to meditate... but no one can control even his own mind...
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12/2/2017  8:56 PM
knicks1248 wrote:You have to cheat, lie, and manipulate to get ahead of the curve in america. Why would this sht surprise anyone

This is how human civilization in general works everywhere. In most places much more so that in US, in some may be slightly less.
We are humans you know - the worst and most dangerous creatures produced by evolution.

He can teach them to meditate... but no one can control even his own mind...
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12/2/2017  9:05 PM
knicks1248 wrote:You have to cheat, lie, and manipulate to get ahead of the curve in america. Why would this sht surprise anyone

Wrong, on so many levels.

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12/2/2017  9:28 PM    LAST EDITED: 12/2/2017  9:29 PM
arkrud wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
arkrud wrote:Its cool that American Middle class has a goose to be cooked.
Most of the world population have no goose, and many have nothing to eat at all...
As a citizen of Empire I am satisfied. Hail to the Emperor and Senators!!!
All we need is more Bread-with-butter and Entertainment.
As for the rest of the world... they will get their shot sooner or later but not in my lifetime.

The clarion call of the enabler. We also dont have Universal Health care, maternity leave, clean water, well funded schools, an infrastructure that isnt bordering on complete failure. A government that represents all classes either.

Guess we have to wait until we become Somalia to complain. Deregulation worked out great for them.

We do not have many things but we have freedom for everyone to accept the live and things we have or move on to any other place where life is better.
Not to many are moving... I wonder why? Most likely this other place is hard to find.
People never value what they have and cry about what they do not have instead.
I guess this is human nature.
90% of the people of the world will consider everyone who is unsatisfied with his live in US as hypocrite of highest degree and for a good reason.

We used to have some measure of freedom. They say 9/11 changed everything. From a legal standpoint it did. Many laws were passed that nullify most of the Bill of Rights. Passed during both Republican and Democratic administrations. Debtors prisons have been brought back for the poor. We have the highest incarceration rate in the world. Run increasingly for profit by private corporations, who are often also friends with judges who send them the business, so to speak. Often non-violent drug offenders.

Speaking of drugs we have an opiod epidemic thats very similar to what happened after the collapse of the old Soviet Union, but alcohol being the drug of choice there.

Wages are so stagnant that its hard for people to just get up and move. Many are locked into mortgages they can't walk away from. Most families are one paycheck short of disaster. Thats not freedom.

I understand America's hypocrisy when if comes to how it approaches the world. At the same time, if you really do feel a bond to this country of ours, the current state of our country, and the incredible amount of suffering that it is inflicting on many millions of people, it should keep you from making sick jokes about the suffering of others.

The bill that was just passed is going to send a lot more people in the coming years to the hospital, or the morgue. Its unavoidable. Thats how bad this bill is.

Some communities have always suffered more in bad times, and they will get hit the hardest. This is all being done to make a handful of rich billionaires, who collectively already have as much wealth as half the country, to have even more. Its beyond a kink in the system. Its the middle ages, complete with a denial of science.

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12/2/2017  10:08 PM
These bastards!!!

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12/2/2017  10:25 PM
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arkrud wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
arkrud wrote:Its cool that American Middle class has a goose to be cooked.
Most of the world population have no goose, and many have nothing to eat at all...
As a citizen of Empire I am satisfied. Hail to the Emperor and Senators!!!
All we need is more Bread-with-butter and Entertainment.
As for the rest of the world... they will get their shot sooner or later but not in my lifetime.

The clarion call of the enabler. We also dont have Universal Health care, maternity leave, clean water, well funded schools, an infrastructure that isnt bordering on complete failure. A government that represents all classes either.

Guess we have to wait until we become Somalia to complain. Deregulation worked out great for them.

We do not have many things but we have freedom for everyone to accept the live and things we have or move on to any other place where life is better.
Not to many are moving... I wonder why? Most likely this other place is hard to find.
People never value what they have and cry about what they do not have instead.
I guess this is human nature.
90% of the people of the world will consider everyone who is unsatisfied with his live in US as hypocrite of highest degree and for a good reason.

We used to have some measure of freedom. They say 9/11 changed everything. From a legal standpoint it did. Many laws were passed that nullify most of the Bill of Rights. Passed during both Republican and Democratic administrations. Debtors prisons have been brought back for the poor. We have the highest incarceration rate in the world. Run increasingly for profit by private corporations, who are often also friends with judges who send them the business, so to speak. Often non-violent drug offenders.

Speaking of drugs we have an opiod epidemic thats very similar to what happened after the collapse of the old Soviet Union, but alcohol being the drug of choice there.

Wages are so stagnant that its hard for people to just get up and move. Many are locked into mortgages they can't walk away from. Most families are one paycheck short of disaster. Thats not freedom.

I understand America's hypocrisy when if comes to how it approaches the world. At the same time, if you really do feel a bond to this country of ours, the current state of our country, and the incredible amount of suffering that it is inflicting on many millions of people, it should keep you from making sick jokes about the suffering of others.

The bill that was just passed is going to send a lot more people in the coming years to the hospital, or the morgue. Its unavoidable. Thats how bad this bill is.

Some communities have always suffered more in bad times, and they will get hit the hardest. This is all being done to make a handful of rich billionaires, who collectively already have as much wealth as half the country, to have even more. Its beyond a kink in the system. Its the middle ages, complete with a denial of science.

Suffering of the people of the world is not a joke. Its real.
People are getting killed in masses, dying from disease without medical help and from hunger without food.
They are tortured, hold in death camps, raped, and robbed.
Mostly in the countries who called themselves socialist, or various religions and military dictatorships.
I am not sure where you are leaving but I do not see the stuff you are talking about.
Yes, some Americans are better of that others for various reasons including the history of slavery and segregation, colonization and destruction of native Indian ingenious civilization.
There are drug addicts, criminals, corrupted politicians and bureaucrats.
But it is not even close to what is going on in most of the countries of the world.
There is no benefit from being blinded by hate.
When you hate somebody you became like those whom you hate.
Not a healthy way of leaving you live.
There is a lot to love about America and a lot of people to love and be proud off.
And this is healthy leaving.

He can teach them to meditate... but no one can control even his own mind...
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