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BRIGGS
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11/30/2017  9:51 AM
If Noah is getting 17mm Kanter is going to get 22-23 per.
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11/30/2017  10:16 AM    LAST EDITED: 11/30/2017  10:17 AM
Briggs, with this assumption please tell us the teams you think will sign him for this money. Not saying it won't happen, but comparing him to Noah money is not accurate. The market dictates the value. Rather than just throwing numbers out there, who do you see offering him that money? That being said, we need to keep this guy, considering his age and impact.
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11/30/2017  10:17 AM
dude you just made a thread about this yesterday. this couldn't go in there? enough is enough man!
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11/30/2017  10:33 AM
lock please!
Panos
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11/30/2017  10:37 AM
Omg the sky is falling!
Someone we traded for is actually playing well, dominating the glass, and making in impact on the win column! How horrible!
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11/30/2017  10:44 AM
franco12 wrote:lock please!

Yeah why is everyone counting Kanter money?

We got guys making 30 plus mill.... i think 22 mil is pretty much Kanters market value. Just like THJr is making his market value.

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11/30/2017  10:50 AM
his options are going to be very small with almost no team with cap next off season except for the bulls, lakers, and dallas

http://www.spotrac.com/nba/cap/2018/

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11/30/2017  10:58 AM
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11/30/2017  11:19 AM
knicks1248 wrote:his options are going to be very small with almost no team with cap next off season except for the bulls, lakers, and dallas

http://www.spotrac.com/nba/cap/2018/

Thank you for breaking this down. This is the type of stuff Briggs and others need to see to realize it's not as black and white as playing well equals a big contract. The market is the biggest factor and right now it appears that it will be in the Knicks' favor, instead of Kanter's.

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11/30/2017  11:25 AM
Kanter appears to be a smart dude and he's playing his best basketball right now, on the biggest stage. Just simply pay him or match is market value and move on. I think he deserves Noahs salary. They both dominate opposite sides of the ball.....Both are locker room leaders and floor leaders. Both inspire their teammates on and off the court. Sounds like financially he should be getting the same as Noah. Remember Noah was a DPOY.....So we are paying for the value of his resume. Kanter I believe wasn't some dominate player in the past....He was coming off the bench in a reduced roll. If anything, he should be paying us for reviving his career.

Kanter is a keeper and it's hard to see how we could replace his impact on and off the court.

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11/30/2017  11:27 AM
Knixkik wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:his options are going to be very small with almost no team with cap next off season except for the bulls, lakers, and dallas

http://www.spotrac.com/nba/cap/2018/

Thank you for breaking this down. This is the type of stuff Briggs and others need to see to realize it's not as black and white as playing well equals a big contract. The market is the biggest factor and right now it appears that it will be in the Knicks' favor, instead of Kanter's.

Kanter is falling n in love with the city. He might be willing to work with the Knicks to get talent here.

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11/30/2017  11:35 AM
EnySpree wrote:
Knixkik wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:his options are going to be very small with almost no team with cap next off season except for the bulls, lakers, and dallas

http://www.spotrac.com/nba/cap/2018/

Thank you for breaking this down. This is the type of stuff Briggs and others need to see to realize it's not as black and white as playing well equals a big contract. The market is the biggest factor and right now it appears that it will be in the Knicks' favor, instead of Kanter's.

Kanter is falling n in love with the city. He might be willing to work with the Knicks to get talent here.

I don't mind paying of he keeps up what he is doing consistently. But the Knicks are known for paying way above Market for whoever they have a crush on, example THJR. I will be very upset if we did something stupid like that.

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11/30/2017  11:58 AM
meloshouldgo wrote:
EnySpree wrote:
Knixkik wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:his options are going to be very small with almost no team with cap next off season except for the bulls, lakers, and dallas

http://www.spotrac.com/nba/cap/2018/

Thank you for breaking this down. This is the type of stuff Briggs and others need to see to realize it's not as black and white as playing well equals a big contract. The market is the biggest factor and right now it appears that it will be in the Knicks' favor, instead of Kanter's.

Kanter is falling n in love with the city. He might be willing to work with the Knicks to get talent here.

I don't mind paying of he keeps up what he is doing consistently. But the Knicks are known for paying way above Market for whoever they have a crush on, example THJR. I will be very upset if we did something stupid like that.

I have yet to see any evidence that THjr is being overpaid. Can you offer any?
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11/30/2017  12:02 PM
Panos wrote:Omg the sky is falling!
Someone we traded for is actually playing well, dominating the glass, and making in impact on the win column! How horrible!

lol ikr. smh briggs...just stop.

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11/30/2017  12:03 PM    LAST EDITED: 11/30/2017  12:04 PM
Kanter has done everything right so far from starting with shedding like 30pds in the offseason . He is earning it. He proves his impact. His attitude is great and necessary.

If we stretch Noah this offseason, renounce Dougies rights, and KOQ opts out. We could free up about 20mil in cap space before counting our draft pick salary. Also matters if Kanter opts out or in. And how much he will command his first yr and he could work it out with the Knicks to take a lower starting salary and have it jump back up. But I don't see any FA this off season worth throwing money at for the other positions of need. That fit our timeline as a long term piece and be a difference maker. The following off season we will have to pay KP so that would be the only real open door to spend in FA. Package that with Willy and one of our 2nd and maybe we can secure a decent player.

If Kanter is the long term option. Then a full court press on moving KOQ & Willy for other needs has to happen. Possible Dougie as well.

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11/30/2017  12:14 PM
Then I know he was brought up before but Kyle Anderson has developed a lot. He is a good defensive player, rebounds very well, and his passing is on point. He is actual a very very good compliment to the players we have on our team.

Retaining Kanter and stretching Noah renouncing Dougie in order to sign Kyle Anderson may be the move.

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11/30/2017  12:16 PM
newyorknewyork wrote:Kanter has done everything right so far from starting with shedding like 30pds in the offseason . He is earning it. He proves his impact. His attitude is great and necessary.

If we stretch Noah this offseason, renounce Dougies rights, and KOQ opts out. We could free up about 20mil in cap space before counting our draft pick salary. Also matters if Kanter opts out or in. And how much he will command his first yr and he could work it out with the Knicks to take a lower starting salary and have it jump back up. But I don't see any FA this off season worth throwing money at for the other positions of need. That fit our timeline as a long term piece and be a difference maker. The following off season we will have to pay KP so that would be the only real open door to spend in FA. Package that with Willy and one of our 2nd and maybe we can secure a decent player.

If Kanter is the long term option. Then a full court press on moving KOQ & Willy for other needs has to happen. Possible Dougie as well.

I agree about most of these things. We need to move O'Quinn. He is valuable to a contender at his current contract. Willy has to stay, if for anything because he is close with KP. This is all about building around our star player. We have to keep the chemistry strong. Willy will eventually get his rhythm back if he's playing consistent minutes off the bench. The jury is still out on McDermott, it will depend on what he wants for his next contract. Maybe (hopefully) we can keep him, or maybe someone like Dotson can step up and play a similar role off the bench next season. Kanter is proving his value and especially considering his age, he's a must keep. Noah can remain as a 3rd string center, or be stretched only if we need the money for a specific player. That option is there if we need it. This team is being built around KP, Ntilikina, Hardaway, and Kanter for better or for worse, and we need to make every move with that in mind.

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11/30/2017  12:30 PM
fishmike wrote:
meloshouldgo wrote:
EnySpree wrote:
Knixkik wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:his options are going to be very small with almost no team with cap next off season except for the bulls, lakers, and dallas

http://www.spotrac.com/nba/cap/2018/

Thank you for breaking this down. This is the type of stuff Briggs and others need to see to realize it's not as black and white as playing well equals a big contract. The market is the biggest factor and right now it appears that it will be in the Knicks' favor, instead of Kanter's.

Kanter is falling n in love with the city. He might be willing to work with the Knicks to get talent here.

I don't mind paying of he keeps up what he is doing consistently. But the Knicks are known for paying way above Market for whoever they have a crush on, example THJR. I will be very upset if we did something stupid like that.

I have yet to see any evidence that THjr is being overpaid. Can you offer any?

Thj has been playing pretty well following a terrible start. Ok defense too. Worth the money? Hard to say. 42%fg and 31% 3pt isnt awesome for sg or 1st positions.

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11/30/2017  12:47 PM
fishmike wrote:
meloshouldgo wrote:
EnySpree wrote:
Knixkik wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:his options are going to be very small with almost no team with cap next off season except for the bulls, lakers, and dallas

http://www.spotrac.com/nba/cap/2018/

Thank you for breaking this down. This is the type of stuff Briggs and others need to see to realize it's not as black and white as playing well equals a big contract. The market is the biggest factor and right now it appears that it will be in the Knicks' favor, instead of Kanter's.

Kanter is falling n in love with the city. He might be willing to work with the Knicks to get talent here.

I don't mind paying of he keeps up what he is doing consistently. But the Knicks are known for paying way above Market for whoever they have a crush on, example THJR. I will be very upset if we did something stupid like that.

I have yet to see any evidence that THjr is being overpaid. Can you offer any?

My favorite comparison is Crabbe... his contract is nearly identical to THJr... since thats the case THJr is underpaid considering all that he's brought to the game this year

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11/30/2017  12:54 PM
Knixkik wrote:
newyorknewyork wrote:Kanter has done everything right so far from starting with shedding like 30pds in the offseason . He is earning it. He proves his impact. His attitude is great and necessary.

If we stretch Noah this offseason, renounce Dougies rights, and KOQ opts out. We could free up about 20mil in cap space before counting our draft pick salary. Also matters if Kanter opts out or in. And how much he will command his first yr and he could work it out with the Knicks to take a lower starting salary and have it jump back up. But I don't see any FA this off season worth throwing money at for the other positions of need. That fit our timeline as a long term piece and be a difference maker. The following off season we will have to pay KP so that would be the only real open door to spend in FA. Package that with Willy and one of our 2nd and maybe we can secure a decent player.

If Kanter is the long term option. Then a full court press on moving KOQ & Willy for other needs has to happen. Possible Dougie as well.

I agree about most of these things. We need to move O'Quinn. He is valuable to a contender at his current contract. Willy has to stay, if for anything because he is close with KP. This is all about building around our star player. We have to keep the chemistry strong. Willy will eventually get his rhythm back if he's playing consistent minutes off the bench. The jury is still out on McDermott, it will depend on what he wants for his next contract. Maybe (hopefully) we can keep him, or maybe someone like Dotson can step up and play a similar role off the bench next season. Kanter is proving his value and especially considering his age, he's a must keep. Noah can remain as a 3rd string center, or be stretched only if we need the money for a specific player. That option is there if we need it. This team is being built around KP, Ntilikina, Hardaway, and Kanter for better or for worse, and we need to make every move with that in mind.

If a commitment is made to Kanter then Willy is moveable as they both fill the same role. Would need a player that brought different skill set to compliment them. Also once the money is spent. Our only means to add real talent would be through the draft. KOQ & Willy would be the only other real assets we have outside of a pick to acquire other young talent. Dotson as well but obviously he isn't a player we should move unless for a no brainer deal.

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