But when I see him jogging half hearted to keep pace w 35 year old nene to result in a dunk I want to send him to the showers on his way back to Spain. That just Cant happen. When you want more minutes you can't be out hustled by 35 yr old nene

BRIGGS wrote:I'll put some of this on Willy
Most of it on Knicks management
Somehow they took a first team all rookie player on what was a rebuilding team-- benched him and drove his confidence into the ground. The player is behind many guys in terms of playing reps-- and psychologically he's shot.

Weak, terribly weak excuse-making for Willy.

Did they tell him to not run back on D? Play with zero intensity? Not rotate?

Give me a break

BRIGGS wrote:I'll put some of this on Willy
Most of it on Knicks management
Somehow they took a first team all rookie player on what was a rebuilding team-- benched him and drove his confidence into the ground. The player is behind many guys in terms of playing reps-- and psychologically he's shot.

Could have easily claimed the starters spot. He actually looks fat.

EnySpree wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:I'll put some of this on Willy
Most of it on Knicks management
Somehow they took a first team all rookie player on what was a rebuilding team-- benched him and drove his confidence into the ground. The player is behind many guys in terms of playing reps-- and psychologically he's shot.

You are discribing a soft player... if this is the case then he needs to go else where.

So he makes all rookie team, makes a low salary, plays behind Kanter and KOQ and plays sparingly. He is with us for 2 years contractually. You think he’s valuable enough to secure Brogden ROy but that he soft and sucks. Which is it? Make up your mind. I agree with someone who understands that his confidence has been slayed under Horny. If your wish comes true (and it won’t be for Brogden), remember when he ends up being a bona Fide player out west.

martin wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:I'll put some of this on Willy
Most of it on Knicks management
Somehow they took a first team all rookie player on what was a rebuilding team-- benched him and drove his confidence into the ground. The player is behind many guys in terms of playing reps-- and psychologically he's shot.

Weak, terribly weak excuse-making for Willy.

Did they tell him to not run back on D? Play with zero intensity? Not rotate?

Give me a break

Briggs has to cover his tracks. we all remember those posts this summer where he said the Knicks should be keeping wily over kp

nyknickzingis wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:I'll put some of this on Willy
Most of it on Knicks management
Somehow they took a first team all rookie player on what was a rebuilding team-- benched him and drove his confidence into the ground. The player is behind many guys in terms of playing reps-- and psychologically he's shot.

The Knicks coaching staff killed his flow and rhythm. That's true. They sort of did to him what the Sixers did with Okafor. However, the other side is like Okafor, Willy is only focused on playing a certain way and while he can wow you with his skills on offense, the coaching staff made it clear to them that this year they wanted better effort on defense and more cutting to the basket. We're not seeing that from Willy.

Love the guy and hate this situation. Hope he gets it back in track. I also think they are making a big mistake not playing Willy with KP. KP and Willy complement each other very well. We have to trade O'Quinn and get minutes free up for Noah and Willy. When Willy doesn't play hard enough, you go with Noah. Kanter is a must re-sign and a core player.

I agree with you both here, although I really don't want any part of Noah whatsoever--only in some emergency.

Willy was a dude almost everyone considered a 1st round pick by season's end last year if the draft had been done over. Now he's a complete afterthought? Could the effort level be a little better? Perhaps, although maybe he's just severely behind other players which may be making confusion look like a lack of effort. I know this: you get this kid up to speed, he's a skiiled asset. No question in my mind. I know what I've seen. Kind of like a mini Enes Kanter. I hate to see his development stalled for the time being.

Finestrg wrote:

nyknickzingis wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:I'll put some of this on Willy
Most of it on Knicks management
Somehow they took a first team all rookie player on what was a rebuilding team-- benched him and drove his confidence into the ground. The player is behind many guys in terms of playing reps-- and psychologically he's shot.

The Knicks coaching staff killed his flow and rhythm. That's true. They sort of did to him what the Sixers did with Okafor. However, the other side is like Okafor, Willy is only focused on playing a certain way and while he can wow you with his skills on offense, the coaching staff made it clear to them that this year they wanted better effort on defense and more cutting to the basket. We're not seeing that from Willy.

Love the guy and hate this situation. Hope he gets it back in track. I also think they are making a big mistake not playing Willy with KP. KP and Willy complement each other very well. We have to trade O'Quinn and get minutes free up for Noah and Willy. When Willy doesn't play hard enough, you go with Noah. Kanter is a must re-sign and a core player.

I agree with you both here, although I really don't want any part of Noah whatsoever--only in some emergency.

Willy was a dude almost everyone considered a 1st round pick by season's end last year if the draft had been done over. Now he's a complete afterthought? Could the effort level be a little better? Perhaps, although maybe he's just severely behind other players which may be making confusion look like a lack of effort. I know this: you get this kid up to speed, he's a skiiled asset. No question in my mind. I know what I've seen. Kind of like a mini Enes Kanter. I hate to see his development stalled for the time being.

I agree with this. The same player was first round worthy last year and now he is garbage. I think he has been put in a horrible situation by inept management. But there's no excuse four him not putting in the effort when he is on the floor either.

BRIGGS wrote:I'll put some of this on Willy
Most of it on Knicks management
Somehow they took a first team all rookie player on what was a rebuilding team-- benched him and drove his confidence into the ground. The player is behind many guys in terms of playing reps-- and psychologically he's shot.

How is it "Knicks Management"? Can't even blame Phil for brow beathing him down? No, this is on willy, a more competitive roster, and a coach who has choices.
Now does that mean we get ride of him?
Why is it when player drops we need to trade him. Likewise when his "Stock is up" some how 29 other teams are clueless and are not in on the scheme!!!

Willy needs to talk with THjr and understand that the talent is there, but the body has to also. Marc Gasol got awesome when he committed.
Talent is one thing, but the drive and desire to get the body "right" is not easy task unless you genetically gifted.