BigRedDog wrote:This is just so closed minded.
Trey Burke went 9th in the 2013 NBA Draft.
The 2013 NBA Draft.
Basic Sports 101 - Take a look at all the major sports in 2013. How many of those teams that were winning then are still as relevant now? How many have undergone massive changes in that time? How many have shifted from contenders to gutted? Or bare bones to ascending?
The distance between 2017, heading fast to 2018, and 2013 is a thousand miles long in terms of sports timelines.
NBA players make their biggest developmental leaps between Years 1 and 2 and Years 2 and 3. Once you get past Year 3, what you see is likely what you will get, barring some pretty strange and unique circumstances. Are their outliers to the rule? Yes. But they are called exceptions to the rule for a reason. The rule exists for a reason.
Would I personally love it, as a Knicks fan, to mine gold from everywhere, to trade rape every other team and gut every other team in deals and in the draft and build a contender that's impossible to beat. Sure, I would. But that's not realistic.
Burke was AVAILABLE FOR A REASON.
Just about every other team passed on him for a reason.
He's in the G League now for a reason.
I've listed many reasons why in my other post above. You aren't actually addressing what he's done in the NBA past his draft pedigree ( Dude, in 2013....) or his rookie year ( before the rest of the league got a scouting handle on him and when he was likely going to get the most burn in terms of usage)
He does not offer length nor size nor speed. He doesn't offer elite long range shooting and is a complete zero on defense. He's deficient at running an NBA offense against live NBA grade competition. He's outside his traditional developmental window. That's why he was AVAILABLE IN THE FIRST PLACE.
I'm actually pointing out things he can do now that can help him become a passable back end rotation reserve in the NBA. Develop an elite three point shot with a lot of hard work and time. NBA modern and current history shows this is a skill set that can be developed later in a career.
You keep talking about what he could be down the road without any actual methodology as to how that would be possible. What skills he could develop. What system would suit him. What changes he should or could make. You are relying on the time honored UK "Because I Said So" mantra.
Because you said so. In mother f**king 2013 no less.
Every minute given to Trey Burke in a Knick uniform is a minute not given to a raw rookie prospect who is still actually in his developmental window. On top of this, Trey Burke is actually a very very very hard worker in terms of trying to improve his game. This is a guy who is putting in the work and STILL isn't breaching the 15 man roster in this league.
If you want to talk about draft pedigree, it's EXACTLY BECAUSE HE HAD FORMER DRAFT PEDIGREE THAT HE GOT THE CHANCE HE GOT RIGHT NOW. You want it to mean more, but it means exactly as much as he actually got.
If you want to tell me I'm wrong, then tell me I'm wrong. I don't have a problem with people telling me I'm wrong under their viewpoint. What I do find amusing is you aren't actually talking about what Trey Burke can do right now, specifically, to undo the very reasons he's stuck in his current situation in the first place.
Unpack how he can become a league average defender.
Unpack how he can compensate for lack of length, defense, court vision, speed and NBA average athleticism.
Unpack how his current skill set actually translates against NBA grade competition.
"Because You Said So" is worth about as much in 2017 as it was in 2013. Take a minute to unpack that. (It will take you far longer than a minute)