I don't think he will. I would like him to, but I think he will just finish his best years in NY. Then when he gets too old, he'll get shipped out.
Hope he has a great career here tho. I'd like to see #3 hanging up on the rafters.

Screw the NY media... Starbury's a keeper.

Hope they let Starks stand next to him when they hang Marbury's #3 up in the rafters...

[Edited by - HARDCOREKNICKSFAN on 08/30/2004 23:41:58]

No. Isiah has a restless trigger finger. He will eventually be traded for a big man.

Posted by raven:

sean deveney about marbury during the olympics :

Marbury got a taste of what Chauncey Billups went through last season -- playing for Brown is difficult for point guards, especially scoring point guards. At times, Marbury looked confused about when to shoot and when to pass, much like Billups did at times last season. Marbury is a good scorer, but he was a ballhog with the Knicks last year and has been for his entire career. Perhaps a few weeks under Brown's tutelage will make that go away.

http://msn.foxsports.com/story/2852442

After he was traded to the Knicks, he led the league in assists. TEAM USA led the Olympics in assists as a team. Marbury must be a strange kind of passing ball hog. The ball is in his hands because he's the best player on the Knicks and because he's the point guard and he's running the offense!

I've always been a little baffled by scoring PGs--- there's something ironic about it. If a players is busy scoring 20ppg and is dribbling the ball up the court and distributing it, the ball must be in his hands an awful lot. Part of the label of ballhog has to do with how long it takes for you to make decisions and for the ball to move. It's okay to score as a PG--- but it's how you score that's important to this position. Isolations and shots out of the flow aren't good ways to score--- transition baskets, open jumpers, and occassional drives to keep the defense honest seem like the idea for PGs.

No matter how many assists you make, you can still be labeled a ballhog.

(Jason Kidd generally escapes the label because the ball is often flying around and swinging around the floor.)

Posted by bernard:

It's unusual for aging superstars to acknowledge the extent of their decline. They don't want to take a smaller contract. They don't want to take a smaller role on their team. Usually, the only way they will accept less is by being forced to by the open market. Will Starbury be an exception to this rule? I doubt it. Doesn't strike me as a particularly humble guy. Would be surprised if he weren't out of NY when current contract expires or in the year prior.

Great post.Even money thats why he wont retire as a Knick.Not many quality PGs do.Cousy and Stockton are the only ones I can think of off the top of my head although Marbury has a ways to go if he wants to be included in that company.

Posted by technomaster:

I've always been a little baffled by scoring PGs--- there's something ironic about it. If a players is busy scoring 20ppg and is dribbling the ball up the court and distributing it, the ball must be in his hands an awful lot. Part of the label of ballhog has to do with how long it takes for you to make decisions and for the ball to move. It's okay to score as a PG--- but it's how you score that's important to this position. Isolations and shots out of the flow aren't good ways to score--- transition baskets, open jumpers, and occassional drives to keep the defense honest seem like the idea for PGs.

No matter how many assists you make, you can still be labeled a ballhog.

(Jason Kidd generally escapes the label because the ball is often flying around and swinging around the floor.)

No, I think Kidd escapes the label simply because he's not a good scorer. If he could score 20 a game like Marbury and was still the same passer he is, he'd be called a ball-hog too. People simply HATE PGs who can score.

Of course Marbury sometimes puts up bad shots, but ALL 20 PPG scorers do. If you don't allow a great scorer to have some freedom on offense, he might not put up bad shots, but he'll be to reluctant to do anything good either.

Hahaha, all of the players listed are ball hogs.

I remember hearing stories about the big O from my father--- it was as if he was the original ball hog.

Tim Hardaway? Ball hog. Isiah Thomas? Ball hog---> but he learned to trust his teammates, and that's when they started to win... and win big.

Some might say GP is also a ball hog--- the only difference is that he never averaged a ton of assists like the other guys.