meloshouldgo wrote:NYKBocker wrote:meloshouldgo wrote:NYKBocker wrote:meloshouldgo wrote:Switching from building a team around Melo to building a team around KP is NOT a rebuild. Its going from starfukkA to starfukkB. This is why we need tho stop trying tho build teams around people and demand they start plaguing basketball the right way. We weren't able to build teams around Ewing, Houston, Marbury, Amare, Melo ...
At some point out should sink in that this is a STUPID approach.
You need to start somewhere. You start with the best player you can find then go from them. KP is the starting point.
We have had lots of different starting points and we are yet to get started. How about we just rethink the approach? Do we really need to keep doing the same **** and expect different results?
Building anything starts with a foundation. The approach is that you need to decide what foundation you want to lay down. Knicks has decided that KP is this foundation along with Frank and hopefully Willy. Unless there is another way of building anything then this is the only way to go.
I mean...what approach do you think we should be doing?
The approach we need to use is NOT DECIDING on a core till the team actually evolves into one. I love KP and I think he will be a great player, but it's not a sure thing and the so called "core" is completely unproven. To act like that is a settled matter and then justify trades based on it is what is wrong with the approach. Keep your options open till you have a confirmed winner, then think about building around it. No need to commit to "future potential" because if it doesn't pan out, you have wasted another 10 years. I am not saying we shouldn't offer KP a max contract if he deserves it, I am saying we shouldn't start justifying trades assuming he is enough of a core for a championship team. He is FAR from showing that, Melo etc. NEVER showed that. And no you don't need to win a chip to decide you have a confirmed winner. You need to be a legitimate playoff team 2-3 years in a row with flexibility and room tho grow. Look at the Bucks etc.
I guess we are just going to have to agree to disagree. Being fluid and not deciding on a core until you have a team is just foolish to me. I mean you can be in a state of flux for a couple of years if you keep changing your core/starting-point and never accomplish anything. How exactly are you going to get a confirmed winner if you are rebuilding? You select a starting point then work from there. Why would it be another wasted 10 years? To me travel is as good as the destination. I want to build our team the right way. Build around KP because then you have a direction. Surround him with players that will make a team that will give you the best winning scenario.
Look at the Celtics. They were meandering in mediocrity because they didn't have a starting point. Then they lucked out and got Isaiah Thomas. They put a stake in the ground and said let's surround him with hard nosed defensive players that can shoot 3s to cover his weakness and accentuate his strengths. Now they have a pretty good team. Then they flipped him for a better model.
You say the Bucks. Well, they chose the Greek Freak as their starting point and built around him. They are doing it the right way.
One thing both the Celtics and the Bucks have though are really good head coaches. I am very iffy on Jeff.