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franco12
Posts: 33185 Alba Posts: 4 Joined: 2/19/2004 Member: #599 USA |
10/25/2017 12:21 PM
newyorknewyork wrote:I don't see him getting fired during the season. He would get fired in the offseason if the team doesn't show progress throughout. I can see him getting fired, but not after 3 games. Maybe when we are 1 & 19? And then, get me Herb Williams! |
knicks1248
Posts: 42059 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 2/3/2004 Member: #582 |
10/25/2017 12:28 PM
Knickoftime wrote:knicks1248 wrote:0-9 including preseason, 7 of the losses were straight blowouts, the offense looks retarded. this is from THJ regarding last nights game “Everything (went wrong),” Tim Hardaway Jr. said. “We couldn’t get anything offensively. We’re all out there just running like we don’t know what’s going on. It can’t happen kp last season “I think it was pretty easy to tell from the inside that we’re not that good of a team,’’ Porzingis said at the team hotel. “We can win games based on our talent but it’s not going to last long. [We needed] more work, attention to details, to keep growing as a team. A good team needs time to play together. so you don't think it has anything to do with the coaching? because even when we had decent talent, we still sucked bad. How can we develop players with a coach the reminds me of a substitute teacher. I like JH, as part of a coaching staff, but he's not a head coach by any stretch of the imagination. ES
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Knickoftime
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10/25/2017 12:41 PM
knicks1248 wrote:Knickoftime wrote:knicks1248 wrote:0-9 including preseason, 7 of the losses were straight blowouts, the offense looks retarded. Who said I'm advocating for Hornchek? You're the one who's been consistently arguing losing is going to lead to staff turnover. If you don't believe in Hornchek, isn't that a good thing? |
BigDaddyG
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10/25/2017 12:44 PM
jrodmc wrote: Not even close. No way do I see Hornacek's tenure culminating in anything like this. Derek is a gift that keeps giving. Always... always remember: Less is less. More is more. More is better and twice as much is good too. Not enough is bad, and too much is never enough except when it's just about right.
- The Tick
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knicks1248
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10/25/2017 12:47 PM
Knickoftime wrote:knicks1248 wrote:Knickoftime wrote:knicks1248 wrote:0-9 including preseason, 7 of the losses were straight blowouts, the offense looks retarded. I'm not saying your advocating, but let me just straight up ask you Do you think he's a the right coach for the job at hand? If yes, then why, if no, then no explanation needed. ES
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MaTT4281
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10/25/2017 12:52 PM
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Knickoftime
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10/25/2017 12:57 PM
knicks1248 wrote:Knickoftime wrote:knicks1248 wrote:Knickoftime wrote:knicks1248 wrote:0-9 including preseason, 7 of the losses were straight blowouts, the offense looks retarded. I think the Knick's head coaching job right now is to endure losses first, and run a program conducive to teaching young players second. I think he's perfectly suited for the first job, I'm not sure he's suited for the second. I'd have no issue if he was replaced. The Knicks aren't going to be good this year. But not every loss is going to be like last night. KP is probably going to look very good more than not. At the end of the year, they're going to qualify for better draft pick than they otherwise would have fighting for (and maybe not getting) the eighth seed. By the start of 2018-19 they'll probably have a new coaching staff. |
EnySpree
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10/25/2017 1:01 PM
Question is who do we being in?.... Hornys days are numbered
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mlby1215
Posts: 20314 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 4/16/2017 Member: #6486 |
10/25/2017 1:19 PM
Please don't fire him. He was very good, like he was too good to learn from one of the greatest coach. Remember we fought for him last season? He was being forced to use one of most successful system in NBA history. He was a poor guy! We helped him! Now he is a free man! Unless Mills forces him to use something, right? Why we change now? I means he still has a lot of potentials!
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BigDaddyG
Posts: 37500 Alba Posts: 9 Joined: 1/22/2010 Member: #3049 |
10/25/2017 1:31 PM LAST EDITED: 10/25/2017 2:33 PM
EnySpree wrote:Question is who do we being in?.... Hornys days are numbered You know who our interim would probably be? Always... always remember: Less is less. More is more. More is better and twice as much is good too. Not enough is bad, and too much is never enough except when it's just about right.
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GustavBahler
Posts: 41138 Alba Posts: 15 Joined: 7/12/2010 Member: #3186 |
10/25/2017 1:43 PM
If Hornacek is fired during the season, who you going to make head coach, Rambis? Because coaches don't usually agree (like never) to step in from outside the organization and take another head coach's job during the season.
Like I said in another thread, this is a PG driven problem that one of Hornacek's assistants would also have to deal with. Face it, unless Frank turns on the jets and blows everyone away with his progress, the offense is going to need a lot of work. I have no problem with the Knicks swapping out one or more of our PGs (not Frank) for another stop gap PG, just not someone with Bledsoe's medical history. And not someone wont drive or share the rock. |
fishmike
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10/25/2017 1:50 PM
GustavBahler wrote:If Hornacek is fired during the season, who you going to make head coach, Rambis? Because coaches don't usually agree (like never) to step in from outside the organization and take another head coach's job during the season.logic... does it have any place here?!?!?! Agree except on Bledsoe. He really moves the needle. If he doesnt its next year and he's out. He would be a nice stop gap at worse, and we have all our picks. I wouldnt give up young drafted guys but I would swap Kanter and give them the Bull's pick. "winning is more fun... then fun is fun" -Thibs
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knicks1248
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10/25/2017 1:53 PM LAST EDITED: 10/25/2017 1:54 PM
There has to be at least one person on that coaching staff that has a better idea on what system to run with this current roster. Look I never heard of JVG before he took over, and woods took MDAs roster and had twice the success.
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GustavBahler
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10/25/2017 1:57 PM
fishmike wrote:GustavBahler wrote:If Hornacek is fired during the season, who you going to make head coach, Rambis? Because coaches don't usually agree (like never) to step in from outside the organization and take another head coach's job during the season.logic... does it have any place here?!?!?! Bledsoe moving the needle is what Im concerned about. Moving it enough to get a cap killing, long term deal. That never works out well for us. Dont want Perry and Mills to even be tempted to throw big money at Bledsoe. Much too risky. |
Knickoftime
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10/25/2017 1:58 PM
knicks1248 wrote:There has to be at least one person on that coaching staff that has a better idea on what system to run with this current roster. Look I never heard of JVG before he took over, and woods took MDAs roster and had twice the success. Maybe they just aren't that talented? |