[ IMAGES: Images ON turn off | ACCOUNT: User Status is LOCKED why? ]

Around the NBA 2017-18
Author Thread
martin
Posts: 46533
Alba Posts: 106
Joined: 7/24/2001
Member: #2
USA
12/8/2017  10:50 AM
fishmike wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:Thunder finally win again. George and Adams had huge games.

And then they lose to the nets

the end of that game was ridiculous, all the rush shots melo and westbrook took in the last 2 minutes of games. I'm talking 18 seconds on the shot clock and hoisting up off balance contested shots.

Good game from Melo though. I continue to be fascinated by any Knick fans who "follow" Melo. He did so much for this franchise

Best team he's ever played on. Career low FG%, assists and he sucks on defense. Everyday that trade gets older the clearer it becomes that we fleeced Presti

You could see over the past 2 years that his legs were shot. Haven't watched him this year and I am wondering about the same.

You have to wonder if all of the publicized summer videos were to boost his "value" for a trade. If PG opts out and moves on and Melo opts IN, OKC in trouble.

Official sponsor of the PURE KNICKS LOVE Program
AUTOADVERT
fishmike
Posts: 47945
Alba Posts: 1
Joined: 7/19/2002
Member: #298
USA
12/8/2017  11:08 AM
martin wrote:
fishmike wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:Thunder finally win again. George and Adams had huge games.

And then they lose to the nets

the end of that game was ridiculous, all the rush shots melo and westbrook took in the last 2 minutes of games. I'm talking 18 seconds on the shot clock and hoisting up off balance contested shots.

Good game from Melo though. I continue to be fascinated by any Knick fans who "follow" Melo. He did so much for this franchise

Best team he's ever played on. Career low FG%, assists and he sucks on defense. Everyday that trade gets older the clearer it becomes that we fleeced Presti

You could see over the past 2 years that his legs were shot. Haven't watched him this year and I am wondering about the same.

You have to wonder if all of the publicized summer videos were to boost his "value" for a trade. If PG opts out and moves on and Melo opts IN, OKC in trouble.

He's the worst kind of terrible because he doesnt know it yet. He still thinks he's a great player in the league. He just refuses to change. We saw it here for 2 years. Yes Phil handled it terribly, nobody will argue that. Bottom line is we had guy who demanded star treatment without star play or anything close to it. Great lockerroom guy though

This happens in sports. Lots of players go through this. The key is that your franchise sees it and moves on before it becomes damaging. We got out late, but we got out with something to show for it.

fishmike - Making UltimateKnicks great again
martin
Posts: 46533
Alba Posts: 106
Joined: 7/24/2001
Member: #2
USA
12/8/2017  11:34 AM
fishmike wrote:
martin wrote:
fishmike wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:Thunder finally win again. George and Adams had huge games.

And then they lose to the nets

the end of that game was ridiculous, all the rush shots melo and westbrook took in the last 2 minutes of games. I'm talking 18 seconds on the shot clock and hoisting up off balance contested shots.

Good game from Melo though. I continue to be fascinated by any Knick fans who "follow" Melo. He did so much for this franchise

Best team he's ever played on. Career low FG%, assists and he sucks on defense. Everyday that trade gets older the clearer it becomes that we fleeced Presti

You could see over the past 2 years that his legs were shot. Haven't watched him this year and I am wondering about the same.

You have to wonder if all of the publicized summer videos were to boost his "value" for a trade. If PG opts out and moves on and Melo opts IN, OKC in trouble.

He's the worst kind of terrible because he doesnt know it yet. He still thinks he's a great player in the league. He just refuses to change. We saw it here for 2 years. Yes Phil handled it terribly, nobody will argue that. Bottom line is we had guy who demanded star treatment without star play or anything close to it. Great lockerroom guy though

This happens in sports. Lots of players go through this. The key is that your franchise sees it and moves on before it becomes damaging. We got out late, but we got out with something to show for it.

Wade has found a nice place on Cavs bench, wonder when Melo will smarten up.

Official sponsor of the PURE KNICKS LOVE Program
knicks1248
Posts: 36596
Alba Posts: 1
Joined: 2/3/2004
Member: #582
12/8/2017  12:06 PM
martin wrote:
fishmike wrote:
martin wrote:
fishmike wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:Thunder finally win again. George and Adams had huge games.

And then they lose to the nets

the end of that game was ridiculous, all the rush shots melo and westbrook took in the last 2 minutes of games. I'm talking 18 seconds on the shot clock and hoisting up off balance contested shots.

Good game from Melo though. I continue to be fascinated by any Knick fans who "follow" Melo. He did so much for this franchise

Best team he's ever played on. Career low FG%, assists and he sucks on defense. Everyday that trade gets older the clearer it becomes that we fleeced Presti

You could see over the past 2 years that his legs were shot. Haven't watched him this year and I am wondering about the same.

You have to wonder if all of the publicized summer videos were to boost his "value" for a trade. If PG opts out and moves on and Melo opts IN, OKC in trouble.

He's the worst kind of terrible because he doesnt know it yet. He still thinks he's a great player in the league. He just refuses to change. We saw it here for 2 years. Yes Phil handled it terribly, nobody will argue that. Bottom line is we had guy who demanded star treatment without star play or anything close to it. Great lockerroom guy though

This happens in sports. Lots of players go through this. The key is that your franchise sees it and moves on before it becomes damaging. We got out late, but we got out with something to show for it.

Wade has found a nice place on Cavs bench, wonder when Melo will smarten up.

lets be honest here, westbrook/melo/pg13 is not really a really good mix of talent..

ES
meloshouldgo
Posts: 24470
Alba Posts: 0
Joined: 5/3/2014
Member: #5801

12/8/2017  12:42 PM
martin wrote:
fishmike wrote:
martin wrote:
fishmike wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:Thunder finally win again. George and Adams had huge games.

And then they lose to the nets

the end of that game was ridiculous, all the rush shots melo and westbrook took in the last 2 minutes of games. I'm talking 18 seconds on the shot clock and hoisting up off balance contested shots.

Good game from Melo though. I continue to be fascinated by any Knick fans who "follow" Melo. He did so much for this franchise

Best team he's ever played on. Career low FG%, assists and he sucks on defense. Everyday that trade gets older the clearer it becomes that we fleeced Presti

You could see over the past 2 years that his legs were shot. Haven't watched him this year and I am wondering about the same.

You have to wonder if all of the publicized summer videos were to boost his "value" for a trade. If PG opts out and moves on and Melo opts IN, OKC in trouble.

He's the worst kind of terrible because he doesnt know it yet. He still thinks he's a great player in the league. He just refuses to change. We saw it here for 2 years. Yes Phil handled it terribly, nobody will argue that. Bottom line is we had guy who demanded star treatment without star play or anything close to it. Great lockerroom guy though

This happens in sports. Lots of players go through this. The key is that your franchise sees it and moves on before it becomes damaging. We got out late, but we got out with something to show for it.

Wade has found a nice place on Cavs bench, wonder when Melo will smarten up.

Honestly don't think smartening up is a part of Melo's toolset. I think we have enough data to conclude the obvious by now.

The only things that trickle down are wages and horse shit
martin
Posts: 46533
Alba Posts: 106
Joined: 7/24/2001
Member: #2
USA
12/8/2017  1:15 PM
meloshouldgo wrote:
martin wrote:
fishmike wrote:
martin wrote:
fishmike wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:Thunder finally win again. George and Adams had huge games.

And then they lose to the nets

the end of that game was ridiculous, all the rush shots melo and westbrook took in the last 2 minutes of games. I'm talking 18 seconds on the shot clock and hoisting up off balance contested shots.

Good game from Melo though. I continue to be fascinated by any Knick fans who "follow" Melo. He did so much for this franchise

Best team he's ever played on. Career low FG%, assists and he sucks on defense. Everyday that trade gets older the clearer it becomes that we fleeced Presti

You could see over the past 2 years that his legs were shot. Haven't watched him this year and I am wondering about the same.

You have to wonder if all of the publicized summer videos were to boost his "value" for a trade. If PG opts out and moves on and Melo opts IN, OKC in trouble.

He's the worst kind of terrible because he doesnt know it yet. He still thinks he's a great player in the league. He just refuses to change. We saw it here for 2 years. Yes Phil handled it terribly, nobody will argue that. Bottom line is we had guy who demanded star treatment without star play or anything close to it. Great lockerroom guy though

This happens in sports. Lots of players go through this. The key is that your franchise sees it and moves on before it becomes damaging. We got out late, but we got out with something to show for it.

Wade has found a nice place on Cavs bench, wonder when Melo will smarten up.

Honestly don't think smartening up is a part of Melo's toolset. I think we have enough data to conclude the obvious by now.

true!

Official sponsor of the PURE KNICKS LOVE Program
newyorknewyork
Posts: 27300
Alba Posts: 1
Joined: 1/16/2004
Member: #541
12/8/2017  5:09 PM
Listening to Alan Hahn yesterday on the radio. Was on another dudes show though transitioning. But he brought up how Towns and his people aren't happy at all in Minny. How he doesn't like the system they are running. How they would love to come to NY(only due to local ties but isn't something they are pushing). This information will most likely lead to nothing(probably 99% probability it leads to nothing). Just passing along an interesting tidbit I heard from Hahn.
CrushAlot
Posts: 55687
Alba Posts: 0
Joined: 7/25/2003
Member: #452
USA
12/8/2017  6:01 PM
martin wrote:
fishmike wrote:
martin wrote:
fishmike wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:Thunder finally win again. George and Adams had huge games.

And then they lose to the nets

the end of that game was ridiculous, all the rush shots melo and westbrook took in the last 2 minutes of games. I'm talking 18 seconds on the shot clock and hoisting up off balance contested shots.

Good game from Melo though. I continue to be fascinated by any Knick fans who "follow" Melo. He did so much for this franchise

Best team he's ever played on. Career low FG%, assists and he sucks on defense. Everyday that trade gets older the clearer it becomes that we fleeced Presti

You could see over the past 2 years that his legs were shot. Haven't watched him this year and I am wondering about the same.

You have to wonder if all of the publicized summer videos were to boost his "value" for a trade. If PG opts out and moves on and Melo opts IN, OKC in trouble.

He's the worst kind of terrible because he doesnt know it yet. He still thinks he's a great player in the league. He just refuses to change. We saw it here for 2 years. Yes Phil handled it terribly, nobody will argue that. Bottom line is we had guy who demanded star treatment without star play or anything close to it. Great lockerroom guy though

This happens in sports. Lots of players go through this. The key is that your franchise sees it and moves on before it becomes damaging. We got out late, but we got out with something to show for it.

Wade has found a nice place on Cavs bench, wonder when Melo will smarten up.

i wonder if he is thinking about opting out to get one last big contract. I would guess that he still believes in his abilities and sees himself as a marquee player.
I think we know what we're doing..... Phil Jackson
CrushAlot
Posts: 55687
Alba Posts: 0
Joined: 7/25/2003
Member: #452
USA
12/8/2017  6:02 PM
newyorknewyork wrote:Listening to Alan Hahn yesterday on the radio. Was on another dudes show though transitioning. But he brought up how Towns and his people aren't happy at all in Minny. How he doesn't like the system they are running. How they would love to come to NY(only due to local ties but isn't something they are pushing). This information will most likely lead to nothing(probably 99% probability it leads to nothing). Just passing along an interesting tidbit I heard from Hahn.
Wow.
I think we know what we're doing..... Phil Jackson
martin
Posts: 46533
Alba Posts: 106
Joined: 7/24/2001
Member: #2
USA
12/8/2017  11:14 PM
CrushAlot wrote:
martin wrote:
fishmike wrote:
martin wrote:
fishmike wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:Thunder finally win again. George and Adams had huge games.

And then they lose to the nets

the end of that game was ridiculous, all the rush shots melo and westbrook took in the last 2 minutes of games. I'm talking 18 seconds on the shot clock and hoisting up off balance contested shots.

Good game from Melo though. I continue to be fascinated by any Knick fans who "follow" Melo. He did so much for this franchise

Best team he's ever played on. Career low FG%, assists and he sucks on defense. Everyday that trade gets older the clearer it becomes that we fleeced Presti

You could see over the past 2 years that his legs were shot. Haven't watched him this year and I am wondering about the same.

You have to wonder if all of the publicized summer videos were to boost his "value" for a trade. If PG opts out and moves on and Melo opts IN, OKC in trouble.

He's the worst kind of terrible because he doesnt know it yet. He still thinks he's a great player in the league. He just refuses to change. We saw it here for 2 years. Yes Phil handled it terribly, nobody will argue that. Bottom line is we had guy who demanded star treatment without star play or anything close to it. Great lockerroom guy though

This happens in sports. Lots of players go through this. The key is that your franchise sees it and moves on before it becomes damaging. We got out late, but we got out with something to show for it.

Wade has found a nice place on Cavs bench, wonder when Melo will smarten up.

i wonder if he is thinking about opting out to get one last big contract. I would guess that he still believes in his abilities and sees himself as a marquee player.

He would be insane to opt out unless it truly is for family. No team is going to give him a long term big contract. Writing been on wall too long.

Official sponsor of the PURE KNICKS LOVE Program
CrushAlot
Posts: 55687
Alba Posts: 0
Joined: 7/25/2003
Member: #452
USA
12/8/2017  11:35 PM
martin wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
martin wrote:
fishmike wrote:
martin wrote:
fishmike wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:Thunder finally win again. George and Adams had huge games.

And then they lose to the nets

the end of that game was ridiculous, all the rush shots melo and westbrook took in the last 2 minutes of games. I'm talking 18 seconds on the shot clock and hoisting up off balance contested shots.

Good game from Melo though. I continue to be fascinated by any Knick fans who "follow" Melo. He did so much for this franchise

Best team he's ever played on. Career low FG%, assists and he sucks on defense. Everyday that trade gets older the clearer it becomes that we fleeced Presti

You could see over the past 2 years that his legs were shot. Haven't watched him this year and I am wondering about the same.

You have to wonder if all of the publicized summer videos were to boost his "value" for a trade. If PG opts out and moves on and Melo opts IN, OKC in trouble.

He's the worst kind of terrible because he doesnt know it yet. He still thinks he's a great player in the league. He just refuses to change. We saw it here for 2 years. Yes Phil handled it terribly, nobody will argue that. Bottom line is we had guy who demanded star treatment without star play or anything close to it. Great lockerroom guy though

This happens in sports. Lots of players go through this. The key is that your franchise sees it and moves on before it becomes damaging. We got out late, but we got out with something to show for it.

Wade has found a nice place on Cavs bench, wonder when Melo will smarten up.

i wonder if he is thinking about opting out to get one last big contract. I would guess that he still believes in his abilities and sees himself as a marquee player.

He would be insane to opt out unless it truly is for family. No team is going to give him a long term big contract. Writing been on wall too long.

He might get more money with more years, not 27 mil in one year but maybe 54 mil for 3 years. I didn't think he would opt out if he stayed in NY. I thought he would force the Knicks to buy him out like Wade in Chicago. I believe he ages out of a longer term deal soon but I am not positive. This might motivate him to opt out. I believe TT has posted about this and he has a good handle on the cba
I think we know what we're doing..... Phil Jackson
CrushAlot
Posts: 55687
Alba Posts: 0
Joined: 7/25/2003
Member: #452
USA
12/9/2017  12:20 AM
https://syndication.bleacherreport.com/amp/2747968-this-isnt-entertainment-basketball-do-ball-brothers-have-a-future-overseas.amp.html?__twitter_impression=true
I think we know what we're doing..... Phil Jackson
TripleThreat
Posts: 21598
Alba Posts: 0
Joined: 2/24/2012
Member: #3997

12/9/2017  1:59 AM
knicks1248 wrote:lets be honest here, westbrook/melo/pg13 is not really a really good mix of talent..


While I don't think Melo and his lazy style of play has ever helped any team situation, the far bigger problem in OKC is Westbrook.

He's not a low IQ player, it's worse, he's a mediocre IQ player who thinks he's a high IQ player. The team is designed to upload his counting stats. That's about it. You can't run a real offense around him.

In his prime, what made Jason Kidd so interesting was he would get triple doubles, but in the context of the flow of the game itself. It was never forced. That the first half of his career, he was a putrid long range shooter made it even more impressive. Westbrook got triple doubles by subverting his team mates playing actual free flowing team basketball.

The Nike "narrative" is "Look at how much he does without any real help!"

Well, no one wants to play with him. Not really. It's not a huge secret in the league.

The Designated Max Player Extension was created just for a Westbrook situation. You have a franchise player who cannot carry a team to a championship on his own. He's got actual flaws but a lot of talent. He's very marketable. The shoe brands love him. He can carry a team "narrative" for the league and advertisers. He will kill the cap with a huge AAV, but he will keep tickets selling and anchor a team with just enough wins to generate a profit.

I've said this over and over here. People think the mistake OKC made was trading for Kendrick Perkins and trading James Harden away. That was not the real mistake. The real mistake was not trading off Westbrook, then trading off Harden a few years before Harden was actually traded.

Durant really just didn't want to play next to this dude anymore.

Melo will always be a selfish chucker. But much of the problems OKC has and will have, starts with RW.

Since you came on this board you have been way off in regards to trade value. - Briggs 7/28/2015
martin
Posts: 46533
Alba Posts: 106
Joined: 7/24/2001
Member: #2
USA
12/9/2017  11:48 AM
CrushAlot wrote:
martin wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
martin wrote:
fishmike wrote:
martin wrote:
fishmike wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:Thunder finally win again. George and Adams had huge games.

And then they lose to the nets

the end of that game was ridiculous, all the rush shots melo and westbrook took in the last 2 minutes of games. I'm talking 18 seconds on the shot clock and hoisting up off balance contested shots.

Good game from Melo though. I continue to be fascinated by any Knick fans who "follow" Melo. He did so much for this franchise

Best team he's ever played on. Career low FG%, assists and he sucks on defense. Everyday that trade gets older the clearer it becomes that we fleeced Presti

You could see over the past 2 years that his legs were shot. Haven't watched him this year and I am wondering about the same.

You have to wonder if all of the publicized summer videos were to boost his "value" for a trade. If PG opts out and moves on and Melo opts IN, OKC in trouble.

He's the worst kind of terrible because he doesnt know it yet. He still thinks he's a great player in the league. He just refuses to change. We saw it here for 2 years. Yes Phil handled it terribly, nobody will argue that. Bottom line is we had guy who demanded star treatment without star play or anything close to it. Great lockerroom guy though

This happens in sports. Lots of players go through this. The key is that your franchise sees it and moves on before it becomes damaging. We got out late, but we got out with something to show for it.

Wade has found a nice place on Cavs bench, wonder when Melo will smarten up.

i wonder if he is thinking about opting out to get one last big contract. I would guess that he still believes in his abilities and sees himself as a marquee player.

He would be insane to opt out unless it truly is for family. No team is going to give him a long term big contract. Writing been on wall too long.

He might get more money with more years, not 27 mil in one year but maybe 54 mil for 3 years. I didn't think he would opt out if he stayed in NY. I thought he would force the Knicks to buy him out like Wade in Chicago. I believe he ages out of a longer term deal soon but I am not positive. This might motivate him to opt out. I believe TT has posted about this and he has a good handle on the cba

Melo going to be 34 in May, this season. Do you really think there is a team that is going to give him $15M per over 3 years? He is pretty much having career lows across the board and diminishing.

Versus a guaranteed $28M.

Official sponsor of the PURE KNICKS LOVE Program
Chandler
Posts: 22333
Alba Posts: 0
Joined: 11/26/2015
Member: #6197

12/11/2017  9:59 AM
fishmike wrote:
martin wrote:
fishmike wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:Thunder finally win again. George and Adams had huge games.

And then they lose to the nets

the end of that game was ridiculous, all the rush shots melo and westbrook took in the last 2 minutes of games. I'm talking 18 seconds on the shot clock and hoisting up off balance contested shots.

Good game from Melo though. I continue to be fascinated by any Knick fans who "follow" Melo. He did so much for this franchise

Best team he's ever played on. Career low FG%, assists and he sucks on defense. Everyday that trade gets older the clearer it becomes that we fleeced Presti

You could see over the past 2 years that his legs were shot. Haven't watched him this year and I am wondering about the same.

You have to wonder if all of the publicized summer videos were to boost his "value" for a trade. If PG opts out and moves on and Melo opts IN, OKC in trouble.

He's the worst kind of terrible because he doesnt know it yet. He still thinks he's a great player in the league. He just refuses to change. We saw it here for 2 years. Yes Phil handled it terribly, nobody will argue that. Bottom line is we had guy who demanded star treatment without star play or anything close to it. Great lockerroom guy though

This happens in sports. Lots of players go through this. The key is that your franchise sees it and moves on before it becomes damaging. We got out late, but we got out with something to show for it.

I might be one to argue that. I will agree it would have all been more pleasant if everything could have been kept in house etc. But what we don't know -- and won't know until Phil's next book -- is whether they tried dealing with the ball stopping etc in house and Melo just ignored it. Even if that didn't happen, we all know Phil has used media before as a tool before so not a huge surprise.

I for one seriously doubt Melo would be gone if not for Phil using his tactics (and to Crush etc., yes Phil gave him the contract -- hindsight is always 20/20)

DJMUSIC: Fisher talked a good game in Post game but aside from that Derek Fisher was ALL CHIT CHAT SH_t and produced nothing!
Cartman718
Posts: 25229
Alba Posts: 0
Joined: 10/12/2007
Member: #1694

12/11/2017  10:05 AM
I think OKC realized that in order to continue to sell tickets and not alienate Westbrook, they need more marquee names on the roster. And they got that, I dont think they feel they could actually win any championships with that trio.
Nixluva is posting triangle screen grabs, even when nobody asks - Fishmike. LOL So are we going to reference that thread like the bible now? "The thread of Wroten Page 14 post 9" - EnySpree
knicks1248
Posts: 36596
Alba Posts: 1
Joined: 2/3/2004
Member: #582
12/11/2017  1:06 PM
Cartman718 wrote:I think OKC realized that in order to continue to sell tickets and not alienate Westbrook, they need more marquee names on the roster. And they got that, I dont think they feel they could actually win any championships with that trio.

Marquee names mean nothing if your not an elite team. Chemistry out weighs talent any day of the wk for me.

It's tough to play with a PG like Russell, he's no different than Marbury and steve francis, you have no idea what those type of pg's are going to do from possession to possession.

ES
CrushAlot
Posts: 55687
Alba Posts: 0
Joined: 7/25/2003
Member: #452
USA
12/11/2017  6:55 PM
Chandler wrote:
fishmike wrote:
martin wrote:
fishmike wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:Thunder finally win again. George and Adams had huge games.

And then they lose to the nets

the end of that game was ridiculous, all the rush shots melo and westbrook took in the last 2 minutes of games. I'm talking 18 seconds on the shot clock and hoisting up off balance contested shots.

Good game from Melo though. I continue to be fascinated by any Knick fans who "follow" Melo. He did so much for this franchise

Best team he's ever played on. Career low FG%, assists and he sucks on defense. Everyday that trade gets older the clearer it becomes that we fleeced Presti

You could see over the past 2 years that his legs were shot. Haven't watched him this year and I am wondering about the same.

You have to wonder if all of the publicized summer videos were to boost his "value" for a trade. If PG opts out and moves on and Melo opts IN, OKC in trouble.

He's the worst kind of terrible because he doesnt know it yet. He still thinks he's a great player in the league. He just refuses to change. We saw it here for 2 years. Yes Phil handled it terribly, nobody will argue that. Bottom line is we had guy who demanded star treatment without star play or anything close to it. Great lockerroom guy though

This happens in sports. Lots of players go through this. The key is that your franchise sees it and moves on before it becomes damaging. We got out late, but we got out with something to show for it.

I might be one to argue that. I will agree it would have all been more pleasant if everything could have been kept in house etc. But what we don't know -- and won't know until Phil's next book -- is whether they tried dealing with the ball stopping etc in house and Melo just ignored it. Even if that didn't happen, we all know Phil has used media before as a tool before so not a huge surprise.

I for one seriously doubt Melo would be gone if not for Phil using his tactics (and to Crush etc., yes Phil gave him the contract -- hindsight is always 20/20)

Its not just hindsight, giving a player a ntc and huge trade kicker is giving them an incredible amount of power. Melo wasn't going to do Phil and help him to make a trade after all of the bad blood created. If Phil stayed Melo would either be a Knick, a rocket or bought out. If Melo ended up not being moved, my guess is that he would have reupped next year and then sought a buy out like Wade.
I think we know what we're doing..... Phil Jackson
CrushAlot
Posts: 55687
Alba Posts: 0
Joined: 7/25/2003
Member: #452
USA
12/11/2017  7:03 PM
I think we know what we're doing..... Phil Jackson
martin
Posts: 46533
Alba Posts: 106
Joined: 7/24/2001
Member: #2
USA
12/11/2017  7:06 PM
CrushAlot wrote:
Chandler wrote:
fishmike wrote:
martin wrote:
fishmike wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:Thunder finally win again. George and Adams had huge games.

And then they lose to the nets

the end of that game was ridiculous, all the rush shots melo and westbrook took in the last 2 minutes of games. I'm talking 18 seconds on the shot clock and hoisting up off balance contested shots.

Good game from Melo though. I continue to be fascinated by any Knick fans who "follow" Melo. He did so much for this franchise

Best team he's ever played on. Career low FG%, assists and he sucks on defense. Everyday that trade gets older the clearer it becomes that we fleeced Presti

You could see over the past 2 years that his legs were shot. Haven't watched him this year and I am wondering about the same.

You have to wonder if all of the publicized summer videos were to boost his "value" for a trade. If PG opts out and moves on and Melo opts IN, OKC in trouble.

He's the worst kind of terrible because he doesnt know it yet. He still thinks he's a great player in the league. He just refuses to change. We saw it here for 2 years. Yes Phil handled it terribly, nobody will argue that. Bottom line is we had guy who demanded star treatment without star play or anything close to it. Great lockerroom guy though

This happens in sports. Lots of players go through this. The key is that your franchise sees it and moves on before it becomes damaging. We got out late, but we got out with something to show for it.

I might be one to argue that. I will agree it would have all been more pleasant if everything could have been kept in house etc. But what we don't know -- and won't know until Phil's next book -- is whether they tried dealing with the ball stopping etc in house and Melo just ignored it. Even if that didn't happen, we all know Phil has used media before as a tool before so not a huge surprise.

I for one seriously doubt Melo would be gone if not for Phil using his tactics (and to Crush etc., yes Phil gave him the contract -- hindsight is always 20/20)

Its not just hindsight, giving a player a ntc and huge trade kicker is giving them an incredible amount of power. Melo wasn't going to do Phil and help him to make a trade after all of the bad blood created. If Phil stayed Melo would either be a Knick, a rocket or bought out. If Melo ended up not being moved, my guess is that he would have reupped next year and then sought a buy out like Wade.

Doesn't pass the easy smell test.

He hated Phil so much he wouldn't have wanted to get traded this summer AND would have re-upped AGAIN, still hating Phil and the circus and the situation, just out of spite?

And yet, a MUCH better GM and environment settles in and the first thing that happens is he gets moved? And there are reports that Melo would have opened up Portland as a destination too?

Official sponsor of the PURE KNICKS LOVE Program
Around the NBA 2017-18

©2001-2012 ultimateknicks.com All rights reserved. About Us.
This site is not affiliated with the NY Knicks or the National Basketball Association in any way.
You may visit the official NY Knicks web site by clicking here.

All times (GMT-05:00) Eastern Time.