fin89 wrote:Nothing against Kanter, but we have a surplus of bigs, and he's quite expensive in addition to our Noah void. Obviously, Portland wanted no part in aiding a conference rival get the player they were trying to recruit, but Portland was the team that was responsible for Kanter's max contract. Maybe after the sting of not getting Melo wears off, they will be open to Kanter and Perry gets his guy in Harkless. I guess i'm trying to make sense of this trade still.
Kanter has close to no future trade value.
Most teams will be cap locked in the coming offseason. Two straight offseasons of plus cap space because of the massive jump in previous revenue. No smoothing option, teams spending wildly. Now teams will be hitting the tax zone just to keep their core players together. Gonna be ugly. With little to no money out there, Kanter will 99.9999999999 be opting into his option year next year.
At the deadline, only teams looking are teams trying to rebuild ( where Kanter makes zero sense for them unless he's packaged with picks and/or young players to absorb his contract, which the Knicks are not trying to do) or contenders. Contenders by their nature are always hard up near the cap and the only way to salary match and not gut their core is to sacrifice a mass of depth. To take in a player who offers negative defense and needs to be benched because his defensive limitations are so horrible to have any chance to win late in a game?
Noah has no trade value. Same basic problem. Too little upside for the contract hit that robs depth.
OKC tried to trade Kanter for a long while now. He was available all last year, no one wanted him. Why would they want him now? Knicks only have him because they needed to dump Melo.
No rational team would trade picks and/or young players for Kanter. What they will trade is a BAD BAD CONTRACT for him, where his value is more than someone horrible like a Luol Deng.
No rational team would trade Greg Monroe for Kanter. Same problems, some offense, some low post skill, no defense, big contract, but Kanters is longer. That's like having the Greg Monroe problem for one more year.
Kanter is worth something, on a shorter contract with a much lower AAV. He's useful then to some team. Under his current contract, no, he's just too problematic.
If the Knicks were a contender , would you want them to trade a mass of depth for Kanter? Then why would another team?
If the Knicks had one last year of Greg Monroe, would you want them to trade for Kanter and extend the pain of a bad contract for another year? Then why would another team?
If the Knicks didn't have Noah's horrible contract, would you want the Knicks to trade for it? Then why would another team?
If a player is probably the worst pivot defender in the entire league, what are the odds he could, in one season, get to average? Its probably not likely.
This is where nixluva says, no no, you can't predict what the future will hold.
OK, if you smoke a pack of cigarette a day long enough, you'll probably end up with serious health problem from smoking. Probably lung cancer if doing it long enough. Are there exceptions? Yes. But they change the odds and the rules? No.
Thinking Kanter can become a league average defender in one offseason, because he's dropping mass weight like most players do WHO ARE JUICE/PEDS CYCLING for mandatory testing, is like hoping lighting up those packs a day won't matter in the end.
Is it possible? In theory, Yes, it's possible. But in theory, Taylor Swift will show up and blow you right now under your kitchen table. It's possible a flying saucer crashes into your house and is full of gold coins so you can retire a billionaire. It's possible EnySpree or Knicks1248 would look up something on their own on Google instead of demanding people here fill in the gaps for them on what they could look up in 8 seconds and try to become actually informed. But is any of that likely?
The same reason you guys want the Knicks to dump a player in a trade is THE EXACT SAME DAMN REASON THE OTHER TEAM DOES NOT WANT SAID PLAYER.
Kanter is here for a simple reason. Perry knows the Knicks will not make the playoffs. He also knows the West is top heavy and bad Western teams will be tanking earlier and faster and the rigged lottery system won't favor the Knicks. So he's putting what he hopes is a "fun and shoot" team on the floor. A regular season team that fans can sort of enjoy watching play heavy offense. That's it. Hornacek and Mills will go along because they don't want to get fired.
Unless the Knicks take in another BAD contract for him, or they use draft assets to dump him, Kanter is here this year to stay and will likely opt in next year because the market would collapse on him otherwise. Nixluva will jump in here and give his classic "You can't say that for certain, you don't know, you can't predict the future!"
No, I can't predict the future. I can "forecast" the actual NBA marketplace.
