What changes does the coach make? No more Phil and triangle.. Is Jeff on his own? Has Mills and/or Perry given him direction?

What does the PG rotation look like? Frank, Baker, Sessions and Jack.
Do any of the invited guards makes the team? Jaramaz? XRM? Randle?

What's Lee's role?

Is Melo a Knick? Or is he waiting for a trade? Is he looking to move the ball or working on getting his shots off?

Who starts at center? Where does Noah fit in? Is KOQ trade bait?

Kuz, Lance, Beasley... who wins those minutes?

Knixkik wrote:I see Jeff really speeding things up. We probably see a lineup of Porzingis, Melo, Lee, Hardaway, and Ntilikina more often then not. Willy serves as 6th man playing 24-26 mpg. Beasley, Thomas, Baker, and either Sessions or Jack round out the rotation. O'Quinn probably is the odd man out (unless we go big.) Noah will be a match-up dependent rotation player when he returns. Kuz probably doesn't play much, as Beasley brings a similar skill-set and is probably a better player.

CrushAlot wrote:Interesting stuff in the papers today. Jack said at voluntary workouts Jeff hasn't mentioned the triangle. Also, in one of the Beasley articles it said that guys are working out in Melo's gym but he is working out in a gym seperate from teammates.

Can you imagine the media circus if he was in Tarry Town. Mills/perry is schedule to meet with the media Friday, and i think it's extremely important to shut the drama down for the sake of the rest of the team.

That Melo drama is set to be the biggest distraction in training camp.

TheGame wrote:If Jack is healthy, he will be our best pg and should get 10-15 minutes a game. The interesting camp question will be who will start at pg. I want Frank to win that competition. He probably will not be the best pg at the start of the season but you might as well throw him out there. The kid has a year of professional experience, so it is not like he is coming from college. I can see the argument for starting him out slow, but in my mind, he can handle it. The coaches will hopefully make the best decision.

The next issue is whether the team treats Melo as if he is going to stay. Melo likely starts no matter what but it will be interesting how many minutes he gets.

i dont think he can handle it , i saw his interviews, he looks pretty nervous, i am not sure if he can handle NYC pressure that easy

Paris907 wrote:I think Kuz has a solid 3 but don’t be surprised if by seasons end it’s Dotson. KP/Lee/Kuz/Dotson/ all shoot the three and well.

I suspect that they will still use some Triangle when in the Half Court, but not use all of the Rules heavy aspects of the system. Still even if Jeff completely gets rid of it, he's got plenty of other sets he can use and it will still require players learning how to execute. OK so even if you don't use Triangle but instead use Horns sets or whatever, you still have to master the sets and execute at a high level.

As for the PG spot I think it's good to have guys like Jack and Sessions in there mixed with the young guys. We're not talking about regular season games right now but how the younger players are being instructed in practice. These vets can help get the kids more ready. Last year Rose wasn't even there the whole time to help even if he wanted to. This Camp will be different in that regard. Nitty and Baker are going to play and just who starts is going to be a very interesting decision for Jeff IMO. I think it's going to be between Jack and Baker at the start. Just a hunch on my part.

fishmike wrote:

HofstraBBall wrote:

fishmike wrote:starting with:

What changes does the coach make? No more Phil and triangle.. Is Jeff on his own? Has Mills and/or Perry given him direction?

What does the PG rotation look like? Frank, Baker, Sessions and Jack.
Do any of the invited guards makes the team? Jaramaz? XRM? Randle?

What's Lee's role?

Is Melo a Knick? Or is he waiting for a trade? Is he looking to move the ball or working on getting his shots off?

Who starts at center? Where does Noah fit in? Is KOQ trade bait?

Kuz, Lance, Beasley... who wins those minutes?

Melo's side is expecting a trade before Friday.

Jack or Sessions will be the stating PG with Frank getting most of the second unit minutes.
Think Lee and Baker get most of minutes at 2 and Dotson spot minutes.

Prediction for starting lineup

Noah
KP
THJR
Lee
Jack

2nd. Unit
Willy
Anderson
Beasley
Baker
Frank

Unless they bench Noah and put KP at 5 and Anderson at 4 in starting lineup.

Think JH will also mix in small ball with may KP at 5, Beasley/LT at 4, Timmy at 3, 2 PG's.

Makes KO, Kuz, one of Vet PG's trade bait.

I have heard that about Melo as well... but we have also hear this all summer. There are certainly some mixed message with guys like Beasley talking about being thrilled to play with his buddy Melo. I do think Det is a viable destination for Ryan Anderson thus facilitating a Melo trade but again.. we have head this stuff all summer.

That being said Im thinking similar things you are regarding the rotation.
My first guess was (minus Melo and not factoring in for any players returned)
Noah, KP, Sessions, THjr with the 3 spot up for grabs between Lee, Kuz, Lance, Beas

I REALLY like Frank/Willy being featured in the 2nd unit running the P&R all day. Frank ran it well in EU and Willy sets bruising picks and is a great passer and finisher.

Question... Noah cant play for a month (12 games suspended for PEDs). Who starts? Remember KOQ wasnt handed anything last year, he earned his minutes.

Melo trade depends on how long Knicks pretend keeping him is a viable option. Don't think anyone is buying that. Specially Melo's people.

True forgot about Noah. Guess durin Noah's suspension we will have Willy starting with KP playing some 5. As JH did last year with Noah out. Think KO may be part of Melo deal as may be some other pieces. Knicks will have to play Noah, once he is back, in order to build up his value.

All the while one should expect the Melo era to end sooner than later. I admire the knicks position and Melo's as well as in the post Phil Era all professionalism that has gone into this. Melo himself has never been a epicenter of drama as he even handled his departure from Denver and his free agency with a certain restrain. Knicks on the other hand finally have shown a level themselves by quietly divorcing from Phil (we have not seen any summertime "Phil files") and instead Mills has constructed a starphuch free front office with experienced personnel.

If there was ever a reason for hope its not in the form of a "Prophet" like Phil, a sage like Walsh, or the snake oil salesmanship of Isiah, its Scott Perry and his boss Steve Mills.
This perhaps more than any other sign shows Dolan is detached from the team. Maybe some of you are not impressed because we don't have guys that are from programs that have won before and we like that sort of thing. Not a bad idea, but before teams win they usually have to make changes and more times that not the "no names" are elevated not from past achievements but the ones they create themselves. Its rare you can import an culture. It takes time and patience.

Spurs were born from Larry Brown but did its greatest work after he had left. Im am thinking that Phil did point the team in the right direction and if it took 60 mil and dolans attention then it was worth every penny. No, Phil did not make any great moves but he cleaned enough house and kept to building thru the draft.

LIke Pop is the true architect, not Larry Brown, This team is now Mill's and Perry.

Lots of questions. Answers soon enough!

GustavBahler wrote:Saw this in the Daily News.

Jarrett Jack, 33, is attempting his playing comeback with the Knicks this season, but had previously outlined a post-career aspiration to lead on the sideline. That should get the thumbs up from at least a couple NBA general managers, who, for consecutive years in their annual survey, voted the point guard in the top-5 for the category, "Which active player will make the best head coach someday?"

It's a good sign for Ntilikina, the eighth overall draft pick who will need more guidance than most rookies will because of his demanding position (point guard), age (19) and inexperience (he's never played in the U.S.).

Jack is eager to begin such a mentorship but is allowing the dynamic to grow organically as the two train together at voluntary workouts.

"For sure he has a lot of tools that you can't teach but just the cerebral side of it, that's where I come into play," Jack said. "Just try to hip him to some little tricks of the trade as the season goes along and just understanding what it means to be a starting PG in this league."

Jack still needs to make the Knicks roster, which is never a given on non-guaranteed contract. Less than two years ago, he was starting across the bridge for the Nets and averaging nearly 13 points per game. But then Jack tore his ACL, suffered a setback in his recovery, and played only two games since January 2016.