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GustavBahler
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8/30/2017 5:49 PM
nixluva wrote:GustavBahler wrote:nixluva wrote:PopovichSAN ANTONIO — Gregg Popovich arrived at Tim Duncan's jersey retirement ceremony well prepared. In his suit coat pocket were several tissues, folded neatly, just in case.https://syndication.bleacherreport.com/amp/2682681-gregg-popovich-and-spurs-stars-recall-tim-duncans-exemplary-career.amp.html Sloan or Popovich wouldn't have let a no defense playing, selfish, PG, skate for almost an entire season, go AWOL because that player's contract was expiring. Especially the starting PG. You are trying to fit a square peg in a round hole. You are arguing that Duncan and KP were in the same situation. You dont tell a kid he is the future by showing him that other starters will skate for behavior that would have gotten them benched on other teams. It isnt a lifetime contract. Thats not how you keep players happy. Its a player's league now, keeping stars or future stars happy is important. Like it or not. Besides, if Phil was here Rose might still be. |
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nixluva
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8/30/2017 5:51 PM
CrushAlot wrote:GustavBahler wrote:nixluva wrote:PopovichSAN ANTONIO — Gregg Popovich arrived at Tim Duncan's jersey retirement ceremony well prepared. In his suit coat pocket were several tissues, folded neatly, just in case.https://syndication.bleacherreport.com/amp/2682681-gregg-popovich-and-spurs-stars-recall-tim-duncans-exemplary-career.amp.html In the end KP has to learn how to accept hard coaching of HIM and not be looking at how anyone else is coached as if this is F'n Kindergarten or Peewee League where everyone gets a participation trophy!!! Put your damn big boy pants and GO HARDER. WTF is wrong with people? Since when do we have to accept softness or sensitivity from players? Oakley is face palming right now over this kind of BS! |
nixluva
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8/30/2017 5:55 PM
GustavBahler wrote:nixluva wrote:GustavBahler wrote:nixluva wrote:PopovichSAN ANTONIO — Gregg Popovich arrived at Tim Duncan's jersey retirement ceremony well prepared. In his suit coat pocket were several tissues, folded neatly, just in case.https://syndication.bleacherreport.com/amp/2682681-gregg-popovich-and-spurs-stars-recall-tim-duncans-exemplary-career.amp.html Why do you keep making this about Rose??? This isn't about him. It's about KP manning the F up and accepting being coached and challenged to be BETTER! If anything I'd say KP could get in Jeff's face which would show some fire and balls! He's 7-3 for goodness sake! As I said Ewing and Oakley are laughing at this DRose excuse. |
GustavBahler
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8/30/2017 5:55 PM LAST EDITED: 8/30/2017 5:56 PM
nixluva wrote:CrushAlot wrote:GustavBahler wrote:nixluva wrote:PopovichSAN ANTONIO — Gregg Popovich arrived at Tim Duncan's jersey retirement ceremony well prepared. In his suit coat pocket were several tissues, folded neatly, just in case.https://syndication.bleacherreport.com/amp/2682681-gregg-popovich-and-spurs-stars-recall-tim-duncans-exemplary-career.amp.html If someone treated you like that at your job (nevermind the pay) you saw that kind of double standard, doubt you would appreciate that kind of a pep talk. |
nixluva
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8/30/2017 6:05 PM
GustavBahler wrote:nixluva wrote:CrushAlot wrote:GustavBahler wrote:nixluva wrote:PopovichSAN ANTONIO — Gregg Popovich arrived at Tim Duncan's jersey retirement ceremony well prepared. In his suit coat pocket were several tissues, folded neatly, just in case.https://syndication.bleacherreport.com/amp/2682681-gregg-popovich-and-spurs-stars-recall-tim-duncans-exemplary-career.amp.html First off there's no comparison between an office and sports. There's almost a military approach in sports where like a Sergeant might break a soldier down to build him up as a fierce fighter. Football coaches are notorious for being hard on players. Pushing KP is probably necessary. KP has to learn just how hard he has to play as a Big in this league. I have no problem with this. KP needs to go workout with Oakley and see what he thinks. |
GustavBahler
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8/30/2017 6:06 PM
nixluva wrote:GustavBahler wrote:nixluva wrote:GustavBahler wrote:nixluva wrote:PopovichSAN ANTONIO — Gregg Popovich arrived at Tim Duncan's jersey retirement ceremony well prepared. In his suit coat pocket were several tissues, folded neatly, just in case.https://syndication.bleacherreport.com/amp/2682681-gregg-popovich-and-spurs-stars-recall-tim-duncans-exemplary-career.amp.html Im making it about culture. Thats what this is all about isnt it? Establishing a culture of accountability? How the hell is this franchise going to get anywhere when you tell your future star that your starting PG can freeze you out, act like a sieve on D, force you to work harder to make up for it. Go AWOL, not miss a game, and you get singled out in a stadium full of people for a blown assignment. Thats not a culture change, thats the same old Knicks. Fing up a good thing. |
GustavBahler
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8/30/2017 6:11 PM
nixluva wrote:GustavBahler wrote:nixluva wrote:CrushAlot wrote:GustavBahler wrote:nixluva wrote:PopovichSAN ANTONIO — Gregg Popovich arrived at Tim Duncan's jersey retirement ceremony well prepared. In his suit coat pocket were several tissues, folded neatly, just in case.https://syndication.bleacherreport.com/amp/2682681-gregg-popovich-and-spurs-stars-recall-tim-duncans-exemplary-career.amp.html Im sure some folks in Iraq and Afghanistan would take issue with that remark. Of course they compare, its a multi-billion dollar business, these athletes are corporations unto themselves. Its very much work, and millions of people are watching. As a fan, I have no problem with Hornacek pushing KP, probably needs it. But if you are singling out a player, and letting others get away with worse, actual stars, then it doesnt come off as "tough love" comes off as being an ******* |
nixluva
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8/30/2017 6:25 PM
GustavBahler wrote:nixluva wrote:GustavBahler wrote:nixluva wrote:CrushAlot wrote:GustavBahler wrote:nixluva wrote:PopovichSAN ANTONIO — Gregg Popovich arrived at Tim Duncan's jersey retirement ceremony well prepared. In his suit coat pocket were several tissues, folded neatly, just in case.https://syndication.bleacherreport.com/amp/2682681-gregg-popovich-and-spurs-stars-recall-tim-duncans-exemplary-career.amp.html Whatever! I come from a Military and Police Family. I really don't think it's acceptable to make excuses for KP by bringing up DRose. This is about KP and how he handles coaching and being challenged. I don't wanna hear any Whining or crying what about so and so! No MF what about YOU manning up and handling your business? You wanna be great or not! Get your ass in gear and be a leader. |
GustavBahler
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8/30/2017 6:40 PM
nixluva wrote:GustavBahler wrote:nixluva wrote:GustavBahler wrote:nixluva wrote:CrushAlot wrote:GustavBahler wrote:nixluva wrote:PopovichSAN ANTONIO — Gregg Popovich arrived at Tim Duncan's jersey retirement ceremony well prepared. In his suit coat pocket were several tissues, folded neatly, just in case.https://syndication.bleacherreport.com/amp/2682681-gregg-popovich-and-spurs-stars-recall-tim-duncans-exemplary-career.amp.html Dont care, no one is shooting at them, trying to blow them up. Its closer to a regular paycheck than it is to actual combat. Get a grip. Suddenly culture change isnt so important. Keeping future stars who will be FAs on a team already with the worst rep in the league isn't so important. Just KP "manning up" and leading this **** show all by himself. KP cant lead while he's bending over. Maybe you can, IDK. Thats not leadership to me. He held to his convictions, Porzingis is still here. Phil is in Montana. Sounds like a leader to me. |
nixluva
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8/30/2017 7:08 PM
GustavBahler wrote:nixluva wrote:GustavBahler wrote:nixluva wrote:GustavBahler wrote:nixluva wrote:CrushAlot wrote:GustavBahler wrote:nixluva wrote:PopovichSAN ANTONIO — Gregg Popovich arrived at Tim Duncan's jersey retirement ceremony well prepared. In his suit coat pocket were several tissues, folded neatly, just in case.https://syndication.bleacherreport.com/amp/2682681-gregg-popovich-and-spurs-stars-recall-tim-duncans-exemplary-career.amp.html You get a grip! Contact sports is more close to the mentality of military than Office work unless you think people are throwing bows and posting up at the water cooler. You can't be serious with this take. I don't get you at all. You tried to push this as a fairness issue rather than one of personal responsibility. KP needs to man up and accept the challenge and not wuss out pointing to others not getting as much attention. As I said KP needs to worry about his own effort level and be an example for others to follow. Don't remember having to make excuses for Oakley or Ewing. Why are we going to allow KP to play soft? |
GustavBahler
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8/30/2017 7:32 PM
nixluva wrote:GustavBahler wrote:nixluva wrote:GustavBahler wrote:nixluva wrote:GustavBahler wrote:nixluva wrote:CrushAlot wrote:GustavBahler wrote:nixluva wrote:PopovichSAN ANTONIO — Gregg Popovich arrived at Tim Duncan's jersey retirement ceremony well prepared. In his suit coat pocket were several tissues, folded neatly, just in case.https://syndication.bleacherreport.com/amp/2682681-gregg-popovich-and-spurs-stars-recall-tim-duncans-exemplary-career.amp.html No, they post up on the weekend, for fun, and get the same injuries, only worse because they're older. This notion of blind loyalty to a team/employer who is clearly disrespecting you by giving other players carte blanche, no matter how it affects the team, I dont get myself. Its not family or country, its work. Personal responsibility at work only means something if its applied equally. Why would any player want anything else? The player who is third in touches, shouldnt get most of the heat. Personal responsibility means nothing if its selectively enforced, by anyone. Thats not a team concept. |
nixluva
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8/30/2017 8:56 PM
GustavBahler wrote:nixluva wrote:GustavBahler wrote:nixluva wrote:GustavBahler wrote:nixluva wrote:GustavBahler wrote:nixluva wrote:CrushAlot wrote:GustavBahler wrote:nixluva wrote:PopovichSAN ANTONIO — Gregg Popovich arrived at Tim Duncan's jersey retirement ceremony well prepared. In his suit coat pocket were several tissues, folded neatly, just in case.https://syndication.bleacherreport.com/amp/2682681-gregg-popovich-and-spurs-stars-recall-tim-duncans-exemplary-career.amp.html All you're doing is obfuscating the real issue. You've selected DRose as an excuse for KP NOT accepting personal responsibility. You're assuming that nothing was said to DRose and that's a valid excuse for KP not manning up to his coaches challenge. It's a WEAK argument because in fact KP is the one that still needed to step up his game regardless of what DRose did or didn't do. KP STILL needed to raise his game. PERIOD. He doesn't have to like it. KP's job is to respond with greater effort. |
GustavBahler
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8/30/2017 9:14 PM
nixluva wrote:GustavBahler wrote:nixluva wrote:GustavBahler wrote:nixluva wrote:GustavBahler wrote:nixluva wrote:GustavBahler wrote:nixluva wrote:CrushAlot wrote:GustavBahler wrote:nixluva wrote:PopovichSAN ANTONIO — Gregg Popovich arrived at Tim Duncan's jersey retirement ceremony well prepared. In his suit coat pocket were several tissues, folded neatly, just in case.https://syndication.bleacherreport.com/amp/2682681-gregg-popovich-and-spurs-stars-recall-tim-duncans-exemplary-career.amp.html You're the one who brought in the military, not I. Exactly what was KP's cardinal sin other than blowing off the exit meeting? Was he a selfish ball stopper? D he play Matador D? Was he a difficult teammate to get along with? Did he embarrass the team off the court, other than a few failed attempts at a booty call? What the hell did he do that has caused some folks to get sand in their nether regions? You keep repeating "personal responsibility" like a mantra. Porzingis numbers got better, in spite of all the dysfunction. He held up his end of the bargain. Coaching, mgmt, thats another story. |
GustavBahler
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8/30/2017 9:14 PM LAST EDITED: 8/30/2017 9:15 PM
nixluva wrote:GustavBahler wrote:nixluva wrote:GustavBahler wrote:nixluva wrote:GustavBahler wrote:nixluva wrote:GustavBahler wrote:nixluva wrote:CrushAlot wrote:GustavBahler wrote:nixluva wrote:PopovichSAN ANTONIO — Gregg Popovich arrived at Tim Duncan's jersey retirement ceremony well prepared. In his suit coat pocket were several tissues, folded neatly, just in case.https://syndication.bleacherreport.com/amp/2682681-gregg-popovich-and-spurs-stars-recall-tim-duncans-exemplary-career.amp.html You're the one who brought in the military, not I. Exactly what was KP's cardinal sin other than blowing off the exit meeting? Was he a selfish ball stopper? Did he play Matador D? Was he a difficult teammate to get along with? Did he embarrass the team off the court, other than a few failed attempts at a booty call? What the hell did he do that has caused some folks to get sand in their nether regions? You keep repeating "personal responsibility" like a mantra. Porzingis numbers got better, in spite of all the dysfunction. He held up his end of the bargain. Coaching, mgmt, thats another story. |
nixluva
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8/30/2017 9:57 PM
GustavBahler wrote:nixluva wrote:GustavBahler wrote:nixluva wrote:GustavBahler wrote:nixluva wrote:GustavBahler wrote:nixluva wrote:GustavBahler wrote:nixluva wrote:CrushAlot wrote:GustavBahler wrote:nixluva wrote:PopovichSAN ANTONIO — Gregg Popovich arrived at Tim Duncan's jersey retirement ceremony well prepared. In his suit coat pocket were several tissues, folded neatly, just in case.https://syndication.bleacherreport.com/amp/2682681-gregg-popovich-and-spurs-stars-recall-tim-duncans-exemplary-career.amp.html The Military analogy is common in sports. I don't understand why this is even a talking point. Of course it's not literally life and death but many of the concepts of sports originated with mock war and they treat Training Camp like Boot Camp. You know what the F I'm talking about. SMH. As for why this is an issue if the stories are true, that's because KP decided to skip his Exit Meeting and then cut off communication with his Coach for an extended period. What was KP hoping to achieve with his highly publicized act of defiance? It surely wasn't to resolve his unhappiness and not become a source of controversy and embarrassment. The Manly thing to do would be to go meet with Phil and Jeff and talk it out. You can't explain your way around this fact. KP WAS WRONG! |