Is it Layden's website?

if they can get it funny, why not. Its ok to voice a different view. Isiah is rolling bigger dice. If it works, great, if not, its gonna be a big old THUD.

My view is this team has a 70% chance of being +or- .500 ball, 15% of reaching the conf. finals or better, and a 10% chance of being a disaster (34 wins or less). Yeah, it can happen. Injury (or lack of depth)and guys like sweet don't get better, and craw and Marbs really don't mix and compete for shots. H20 stays injured. IT can happen.

It ain't gonna be Isiahs fault, but he is the man and its gonna be some one thats gotta take it.

Is it a valid website (firethomas.com) or viewpoint? Only if you debate it.

looks like http://firescottlayden.com/ feels the same way. Damn, NY is a tough place.

Heh I actually used to post at the fire layden one. You'd think if they were gonna go out and make a site like that, they'd put more effort into.

as the old saying says, there are three kind of people in this world. those who can count, and those who can't.

LOL, I may have to borrow that sometime.

No that isn't my site. Although it could use a little work I certainly respect the effort and applaud the message.

Why is it that whenever anybody is critical of Isiah, Layden's name is brought up as a defense. "Well at least he's not Layden" is the inevitable response. What does one have to do with the other? Layden sucked and needed to be fired, we all know that but Isiah needs to be judged on the merits of his own moves instead of just comparing him to Layden. If and when his moves blow up, saying "Well at least he's not Layden, isn't going to make them look any better.

It's like an abused spouse thinking that things are better because her new husband only beats her 3 days a week instead of 6 like her ex.

Posted by islesfan:

Why is it that whenever anybody is critical of Isiah, Layden's name is brought up as a defense. "Well at least he's not Layden" is the inevitable response. What does one have to do with the other?

well at least he's not bianchi...

The only player of Layden's that didnt blow up on us was KVH, but he didnt make us any better either.

I liked Keith Van Horn, but truth is, I still think it made us a WORSE team, Isiah came along and until Frank Williams started playing good. If you remember, he was basically playing like ****ake, until that very game, against the T-Wolves, at the Garden (I was there! ) and it was Isiah's first game as the GM. Before that, though, the Knicks were several games below .500. I think it was 10-12 or so. And I kept saying how the trade definitely made us worse b/c of the PG situation, meanwhile, just about everyone besides mbknicky (MSG poster) argued that it was a lateral trade, or it made us better. I don't know, but when your team is playing .500 ball just the year before with one of your leaders (Yes, I consider Sprewell to be a leader!) is there, then you are many games below .500 w/o him, but a different player, I would definitely say we got significantly worse.

I give Layden all the credit in the world for Sweetney, and I even give him props for Doleac. Truth be told, though, Doleac had a HORRIFIC first year with us. Last year, he was solid. Did some nice things, especially with Marbury and Frank Williams. Proved he was no softy either, b/c he works hard down under.

As for Frank Williams. I love the kid, and became my second favorite player. But although, Boozer somehow slipped under EVERYONES radar, that doesn't make it an excuse and that includes Layden. Carlos Boozer is in a different league than Frank Williams. He had the chance to be a Knick. He's not a Knick b/c we drafted Frank. Again, I love Frank, but when you are in the position the Knicks were in, you gotto go by the best players.