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Gudris
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9/2/2017 6:12 PM
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Kemet
Posts: 22087 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 9/23/2015 Member: #6148 |
9/2/2017 8:19 PM
BRIGGS wrote:Gudris wrote:Willy Hernangomez
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GustavBahler
Posts: 41138 Alba Posts: 15 Joined: 7/12/2010 Member: #3186 |
9/3/2017 12:25 PM LAST EDITED: 9/3/2017 12:28 PM
Kemet wrote:BRIGGS wrote:Gudris wrote:Willy Hernangomez Not too many Willy highlights, but the numbers are good. I really hope Frank can become a quality distributor in this league. Both KP and Willy move well without the ball. Just need a PG who can find them. Don't care who it is in the end, as long as someone does the job, and plays some D as well. |
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Jmpasq
Posts: 25243 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 4/10/2012 Member: #4182 |
9/3/2017 5:56 PM LAST EDITED: 9/3/2017 5:59 PM
GustavBahler wrote:Kemet wrote:BRIGGS wrote:Gudris wrote:Willy Hernangomez If Willy was a better rim protector he would be the most valuable young piece on the roster. He is the perfect center for the 4 and 1, he rebounds like a fiend but like I said not enough blocked and altered shots. Otherwise he is a great center prospect. If Porzingis had Willy's feel for the game he would be worthy of the pedestal many put him on. Porzingis should work out with Willy pick up some of his post moves, he would be unstoppable. Check out My NFL Draft Prospect Videos at Youtube User Pages Jmpasq,JPdraftjedi,Jmpasqdraftjedi. www.Draftbreakdown.com
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Panos
Posts: 29294 Alba Posts: 3 Joined: 1/6/2004 Member: #520 |
9/3/2017 6:06 PM
Jmpasq wrote:GustavBahler wrote:Kemet wrote:Not too many Willy highlights, but the numbers are good. I really hope Frank can become a quality distributor in this league. Both KP and Willy move well without the ball. Just need a PG who can find them.BRIGGS wrote:Gudris wrote:Willy HernangomezWow Spain has a better frontline than any NBA team. I'm curious, do you think that really happens in the NBA? We talk about players learning from other players, or mentoring other players, but does it really happen? I'm curious how much it does. Or are players who they are with only marginal improvements, or do improvements come mostly from good coaching. I'd love to know the real scoop. Did any young PGs get better court vision playing with J Kidd, or young bigs get more fundamentals playing with McHale, Malone, and Duncan? |
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GustavBahler
Posts: 41138 Alba Posts: 15 Joined: 7/12/2010 Member: #3186 |
9/3/2017 6:48 PM LAST EDITED: 9/3/2017 6:49 PM
Panos wrote:Jmpasq wrote:GustavBahler wrote:Kemet wrote:Not too many Willy highlights, but the numbers are good. I really hope Frank can become a quality distributor in this league. Both KP and Willy move well without the ball. Just need a PG who can find them.BRIGGS wrote:Gudris wrote:Willy HernangomezWow Spain has a better frontline than any NBA team. If you listen to some HOF speeches, you will often hear how a player became a HOFer in part because of the mentorship of a veteran on his team. Most players mentored don't reach those heights, but yes many elevate their game because a veteran told them what to look for, what they're missing. |
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Panos
Posts: 29294 Alba Posts: 3 Joined: 1/6/2004 Member: #520 |
9/3/2017 7:43 PM
GustavBahler wrote:Panos wrote:If you listen to some HOF speeches, you will often hear how a player became a HOFer in part because of the mentorship of a veteran on his team. Most players mentored don't reach those heights, but yes many elevate their game because a veteran told them what to look for, what they're missing.Jmpasq wrote:I'm curious, do you think that really happens in the NBA? We talk about players learning from other players, or mentoring other players, but does it really happen? I'm curious how much it does. Or are players who they are with only marginal improvements, or do improvements come mostly from good coaching. I'd love to know the real scoop. Did any young PGs get better court vision playing with J Kidd, or young bigs get more fundamentals playing with McHale, Malone, and Duncan?GustavBahler wrote:If Willy was a better rim protector he would be the most valuable young piece on the roster. He is the perfect center for the 4 and 1, he rebounds like a fiend but like I said not enough blocked and altered shots. Otherwise he is a great center prospect. If Porzingis had Willy's feel for the game he would be worthy of the pedestal many put him on. Porzingis should work out with Willy pick up some of his post moves, he would be unstoppable.Kemet wrote:Not too many Willy highlights, but the numbers are good. I really hope Frank can become a quality distributor in this league. Both KP and Willy move well without the ball. Just need a PG who can find them.BRIGGS wrote:Willy ready to add some extra-extra in his 2nd NBA season .. playing well against the Gasol brothersGudris wrote:Willy HernangomezWow Spain has a better frontline than any NBA team. Out of curiosity, can you give examples? |
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GustavBahler
Posts: 41138 Alba Posts: 15 Joined: 7/12/2010 Member: #3186 |
9/3/2017 8:42 PM
Panos wrote:GustavBahler wrote:Panos wrote:If you listen to some HOF speeches, you will often hear how a player became a HOFer in part because of the mentorship of a veteran on his team. Most players mentored don't reach those heights, but yes many elevate their game because a veteran told them what to look for, what they're missing.Jmpasq wrote:I'm curious, do you think that really happens in the NBA? We talk about players learning from other players, or mentoring other players, but does it really happen? I'm curious how much it does. Or are players who they are with only marginal improvements, or do improvements come mostly from good coaching. I'd love to know the real scoop. Did any young PGs get better court vision playing with J Kidd, or young bigs get more fundamentals playing with McHale, Malone, and Duncan?GustavBahler wrote:If Willy was a better rim protector he would be the most valuable young piece on the roster. He is the perfect center for the 4 and 1, he rebounds like a fiend but like I said not enough blocked and altered shots. Otherwise he is a great center prospect. If Porzingis had Willy's feel for the game he would be worthy of the pedestal many put him on. Porzingis should work out with Willy pick up some of his post moves, he would be unstoppable.Kemet wrote:Not too many Willy highlights, but the numbers are good. I really hope Frank can become a quality distributor in this league. Both KP and Willy move well without the ball. Just need a PG who can find them.BRIGGS wrote:Willy ready to add some extra-extra in his 2nd NBA season .. playing well against the Gasol brothersGudris wrote:Willy HernangomezWow Spain has a better frontline than any NBA team. Have a better question, you really believe in the 70 year history of the NBA, players entering the league have figured everything out for themselves? Just spent most of the day sanding and painting my deck in near 100 degree temperatures, but for you.... http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/steve-nash-rookie-vet-interview_us_56a82abce4b0947efb65ef5b https://www.thescore.com/news/800322 https://clutchpoints.com/magic-johnson-wants-lonzo-ball-mentored-veteran-point-guard/ |
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Gudris
Posts: 20998 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 12/12/2015 Member: #6213 |
9/4/2017 9:26 AM
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Panos
Posts: 29294 Alba Posts: 3 Joined: 1/6/2004 Member: #520 |
9/4/2017 10:38 AM
GustavBahler wrote:Panos wrote:Have a better question, you really believe in the 70 year history of the NBA, players entering the league have figured everything out for themselves?GustavBahler wrote:Out of curiosity, can you give examples?Panos wrote:If you listen to some HOF speeches, you will often hear how a player became a HOFer in part because of the mentorship of a veteran on his team. Most players mentored don't reach those heights, but yes many elevate their game because a veteran told them what to look for, what they're missing.Jmpasq wrote:I'm curious, do you think that really happens in the NBA? We talk about players learning from other players, or mentoring other players, but does it really happen? I'm curious how much it does. Or are players who they are with only marginal improvements, or do improvements come mostly from good coaching. I'd love to know the real scoop. Did any young PGs get better court vision playing with J Kidd, or young bigs get more fundamentals playing with McHale, Malone, and Duncan?GustavBahler wrote:If Willy was a better rim protector he would be the most valuable young piece on the roster. He is the perfect center for the 4 and 1, he rebounds like a fiend but like I said not enough blocked and altered shots. Otherwise he is a great center prospect. If Porzingis had Willy's feel for the game he would be worthy of the pedestal many put him on. Porzingis should work out with Willy pick up some of his post moves, he would be unstoppable.Kemet wrote:Not too many Willy highlights, but the numbers are good. I really hope Frank can become a quality distributor in this league. Both KP and Willy move well without the ball. Just need a PG who can find them.BRIGGS wrote:Willy ready to add some extra-extra in his 2nd NBA season .. playing well against the Gasol brothersGudris wrote:Willy HernangomezWow Spain has a better frontline than any NBA team. Cool thanks. Next lemonade is on me. |
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martin
Posts: 68680 Alba Posts: 108 Joined: 7/24/2001 Member: #2 USA |
9/4/2017 10:51 AM
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GustavBahler
Posts: 41138 Alba Posts: 15 Joined: 7/12/2010 Member: #3186 |
9/4/2017 11:30 AM
Panos wrote:GustavBahler wrote:Panos wrote:Have a better question, you really believe in the 70 year history of the NBA, players entering the league have figured everything out for themselves?GustavBahler wrote:Out of curiosity, can you give examples?Panos wrote:If you listen to some HOF speeches, you will often hear how a player became a HOFer in part because of the mentorship of a veteran on his team. Most players mentored don't reach those heights, but yes many elevate their game because a veteran told them what to look for, what they're missing.Jmpasq wrote:I'm curious, do you think that really happens in the NBA? We talk about players learning from other players, or mentoring other players, but does it really happen? I'm curious how much it does. Or are players who they are with only marginal improvements, or do improvements come mostly from good coaching. I'd love to know the real scoop. Did any young PGs get better court vision playing with J Kidd, or young bigs get more fundamentals playing with McHale, Malone, and Duncan?GustavBahler wrote:If Willy was a better rim protector he would be the most valuable young piece on the roster. He is the perfect center for the 4 and 1, he rebounds like a fiend but like I said not enough blocked and altered shots. Otherwise he is a great center prospect. If Porzingis had Willy's feel for the game he would be worthy of the pedestal many put him on. Porzingis should work out with Willy pick up some of his post moves, he would be unstoppable.Kemet wrote:Not too many Willy highlights, but the numbers are good. I really hope Frank can become a quality distributor in this league. Both KP and Willy move well without the ball. Just need a PG who can find them.BRIGGS wrote:Willy ready to add some extra-extra in his 2nd NBA season .. playing well against the Gasol brothersGudris wrote:Willy HernangomezWow Spain has a better frontline than any NBA team. 👍 |
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GustavBahler
Posts: 41138 Alba Posts: 15 Joined: 7/12/2010 Member: #3186 |
9/4/2017 11:37 AM
martin wrote:Tweet was deleted or there was problem with the URL: 2 things I really liked other than those chest high blocks: KP @ 1:10 turning the corner and taking it to the rim for the slam. The last play was a post up under the rim! Made it look so easy. Hope its a sign of things to come. |
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Jmpasq
Posts: 25243 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 4/10/2012 Member: #4182 |
9/4/2017 11:49 AM
GustavBahler wrote:martin wrote:Tweet was deleted or there was problem with the URL: God the defense on him is pitiful Check out My NFL Draft Prospect Videos at Youtube User Pages Jmpasq,JPdraftjedi,Jmpasqdraftjedi. www.Draftbreakdown.com
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nyknickzingis
Posts: 23029 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 12/8/2015 Member: #6207 |
9/4/2017 1:52 PM
I love KP
But he looks about the same as he was 3 months ago. Physically just a little stronger. I don't really see any post moves or better ability to do things. However I will say that KP with a stronger frame, more able to play at a high motor (he gets tired during the NBA season) is an all-star in the East. That's a 20/8/2 player in the league. So I don't really have a problem if that's what we see this coming season. However he doesn't look like he has added too much of post game or any considerable improvement to his skills. |
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GustavBahler
Posts: 41138 Alba Posts: 15 Joined: 7/12/2010 Member: #3186 |
9/4/2017 2:18 PM
Jmpasq wrote:GustavBahler wrote:martin wrote:Tweet was deleted or there was problem with the URL: Doubt it would have made a difference to you either way. |
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GustavBahler
Posts: 41138 Alba Posts: 15 Joined: 7/12/2010 Member: #3186 |
9/4/2017 2:25 PM
nyknickzingis wrote:I love KP No one expects him to turn in to Kevin McHale overnight, if at all. Certainly not me. I saw a few post ups, one right under the rim in the last few games. Its progress, I'll take it. Besides, maybe Latvia's offense isnt geared for KP to live in the paint. |
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martin
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9/4/2017 3:32 PM
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martin
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9/4/2017 3:36 PM
nyknickzingis wrote:I love KP Did we compare Dirk to Hakeen or Ewing and call them failures when they couldn't do post moves? KP is a SF in a C's length. He will shoot 3's, take guys off the dribble from out on the perimeter, run the floor like a gazelle, sky for a put back rebound and dunk, and all of those types of things. We shouldn't judge him on what we want him to do but rather what he can excel at with his unicorn gifts. Official sponsor of the PURE KNICKS LOVE Program
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