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EuroBasket 2017 - KP, Willy and Kuuz
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Gudris
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8/10/2017  4:50 PM
Tomorrow 12:30 PM EST KP is going to play his first game under Latvian Nat Team flag, it will be friendly game with Poland

i will post links to watch a game tomorrow

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8/11/2017  12:36 PM
http://live.shwidget.com/static/freeplayer/491853871416320.html

KP vs Poland live stream

Gudris
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8/11/2017  1:29 PM
After first half KP 12 points and playing full time 5
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8/11/2017  2:04 PM
Thanks for the updates.
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8/11/2017  2:30 PM
Latvia 77 - Poland 65

KP finished with 24 points, 12 rebounds and 3 blocks

he played full time 5

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8/11/2017  3:07 PM
Gudris wrote:Latvia 77 - Poland 65

KP finished with 24 points, 12 rebounds and 3 blocks

he played full time 5

thanks for link and update. Overall impressions?

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Gudris
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8/11/2017  3:25 PM
martin wrote:
Gudris wrote:Latvia 77 - Poland 65

KP finished with 24 points, 12 rebounds and 3 blocks

he played full time 5

thanks for link and update. Overall impressions?


BRIGGS
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8/11/2017  3:33 PM
I like KP at 5

We need to rig a plan where Kp plays 30-32 minutes at 5
Willy plays the other18 at 5 -- and then willy kp play together for 12-14. Each gets 30-32
But the time is staggered giving each good time at 5.

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8/11/2017  3:39 PM
BRIGGS wrote:I like KP at 5

We need to rig a plan where Kp plays 30-32 minutes at 5
Willy plays the other18 at 5 -- and then willy kp play together for 12-14. Each gets 30-32
But the time is staggered giving each good time at 5.

Unless I've lost it and my math skills may be totally worthless.

There are only 48 minutes per game for the 1 center position.

If KP plays 30 mins at C -- that only leaves 18 per game for Willy --- regardless of how many other ideas you come up with.

Also consider in your math --- does this mean ZERO minutes for both Noah/KOQ who are both pure 5's in my book.

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8/11/2017  3:46 PM
LivingLegend wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:I like KP at 5

We need to rig a plan where Kp plays 30-32 minutes at 5
Willy plays the other18 at 5 -- and then willy kp play together for 12-14. Each gets 30-32
But the time is staggered giving each good time at 5.

Unless I've lost it and my math skills may be totally worthless.

There are only 48 minutes per game for the 1 center position.

If KP plays 30 mins at C -- that only leaves 18 per game for Willy --- regardless of how many other ideas you come up with.

Also consider in your math --- does this mean ZERO minutes for both Noah/KOQ who are both pure 5's in my book.

Another thing Briggs -- if you like Willy more than KP --- why are you playing KP more minutes?

Or was that post just another example of your opinion changing with the wind...box score on a daily basis?

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8/11/2017  3:51 PM
Gudris wrote:
martin wrote:
Gudris wrote:Latvia 77 - Poland 65

KP finished with 24 points, 12 rebounds and 3 blocks

he played full time 5

thanks for link and update. Overall impressions?


Will still struggle with strength for at least the next few years but so highly skilled and versatile.

He could have easily had 30 today in those 27 minutes -- had some very open mid-range and 3 looks plus missed 2 or 3 FTs.

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8/11/2017  4:06 PM
LivingLegend wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:I like KP at 5

We need to rig a plan where Kp plays 30-32 minutes at 5
Willy plays the other18 at 5 -- and then willy kp play together for 12-14. Each gets 30-32
But the time is staggered giving each good time at 5.

Unless I've lost it and my math skills may be totally worthless.

There are only 48 minutes per game for the 1 center position.

If KP plays 30 mins at C -- that only leaves 18 per game for Willy --- regardless of how many other ideas you come up with.

Also consider in your math --- does this mean ZERO minutes for both Noah/KOQ who are both pure 5's in my book.

I think KP should get starter minutes at the center spot its his future and the future is now. I honestly will be disappointed if KP dose not start at the 5 from day one of the season.

Willy should be groomed as our starting 4 he has the size of LMA we should groom him as our starting 4 of the future that's where I see his future with this team

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8/11/2017  4:17 PM
Man!, that boy is TALL!!!!!
Man!, that boy is tall and fluid!!!

I don't know where I want this kid on the floor, I don't really care what position he plays. I'd say let Noah and Willy guard the opposing 5 and bang it out with their bigs. If they have a jokic type, and there some, then let him guard them. No need letting him guard Dwight or Drummand.
So long/short I think the other team has to figure him out too!!! If Dwight covers him he'll have to come out and get him. He'll also cross him up and go around him. KP is a problem to guard.
Lets see where we are with noah and the rest come oct.

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8/11/2017  4:26 PM
LivingLegend wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:I like KP at 5

We need to rig a plan where Kp plays 30-32 minutes at 5
Willy plays the other18 at 5 -- and then willy kp play together for 12-14. Each gets 30-32
But the time is staggered giving each good time at 5.

Unless I've lost it and my math skills may be totally worthless.

There are only 48 minutes per game for the 1 center position.

If KP plays 30 mins at C -- that only leaves 18 per game for Willy --- regardless of how many other ideas you come up with.

Also consider in your math --- does this mean ZERO minutes for both Noah/KOQ who are both pure 5's in my book.

There will be times they play together. The assumption is there will be times other teams force you to only play 1 big. I think Brigg's point is they both play 30-32, split the minutes at the 5 say 30/18 as he suggested and the other 12 minutes they play together KP is at the 4.

Now you are right about Noah and KOQ, but I see Briggs point as more future. I dont know what KOQ's future with the team is. I like a lot about him. I dont see the point in resigning him with Willy and KP here as the long term building blocks. All signs point to a trade but I also know they love him as a lockerroom guy. Noah also has something left in the tank and his loss was a big part of the tailspin last year. Even KP was vocal about that.

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8/11/2017  5:06 PM
fishmike wrote:
LivingLegend wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:I like KP at 5

We need to rig a plan where Kp plays 30-32 minutes at 5
Willy plays the other18 at 5 -- and then willy kp play together for 12-14. Each gets 30-32
But the time is staggered giving each good time at 5.

Unless I've lost it and my math skills may be totally worthless.

There are only 48 minutes per game for the 1 center position.

If KP plays 30 mins at C -- that only leaves 18 per game for Willy --- regardless of how many other ideas you come up with.

Also consider in your math --- does this mean ZERO minutes for both Noah/KOQ who are both pure 5's in my book.

There will be times they play together. The assumption is there will be times other teams force you to only play 1 big. I think Brigg's point is they both play 30-32, split the minutes at the 5 say 30/18 as he suggested and the other 12 minutes they play together KP is at the 4.

Now you are right about Noah and KOQ, but I see Briggs point as more future. I dont know what KOQ's future with the team is. I like a lot about him. I dont see the point in resigning him with Willy and KP here as the long term building blocks. All signs point to a trade but I also know they love him as a lockerroom guy. Noah also has something left in the tank and his loss was a big part of the tailspin last year. Even KP was vocal about that.

Not to nit-pick because I really don't care but Briggs said he likes KP at the 5 and he would like to see KP get 30-32 minutes at the 5.

My point is -- if KP is getting that many mins at the 5 Willy is only playing around 18 minutes a night because Willy ain't no 4 on any planet.

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8/12/2017  7:03 AM    LAST EDITED: 8/12/2017  7:11 AM
KP looks bigger. stronger.
Definitely looks more ready to play 5 than two years ago.

I would say they should start KP/Willy together with a smaller perimeter unit, maybe 3 guards like CLee/Hardaway/Frank.
Bring Beasley or Lance Thomas in early (6 min mark).
Willy or KP sit till end of the quarter.
Start of second quarter, whichever big went out first, comes back in with the second unit.

If another big gets in foul trouble in the first quarter, you use O'Quinn or Noah to do the exact same thing to get through the quarter.

Basically.

Willy/KP (Noah or O'Quinn if bigs in foul trouble)
KP/Beasley
Lee/Thomas
Hardaway/Baker
Frank/Sessions

At this point, I think we should push for Melo to getting bought out. If he's willing to waive the entire ETO money, why not stretch his payment out for this year to 5 years and you can open up capspace for both this year and next. Let the players develop. Melo clearly wants to go to Houston only, and if he wants to negotiate the ETO out of the buyout, do that deal with him.

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8/12/2017  10:00 AM    LAST EDITED: 8/12/2017  10:01 AM
This notion that he has to play one position over the other is just the worst thing we can do to this kid. Between him and Willy who they guard should be situational and game by game, they need to develop that chemistry and trust in each other, Willy also needs to play better defense. Similarly on offense he is skilled enough to take what the defense gives him, whether it's inside or out, iso or moving without the ball. We should focus on him developing an ALL ROUND offensive game. This is the ONLY way he can play to his full potential

Trying to force him to play the 5 only as a underhanded way to justify starting Melo is just so played out. Melo should not be part of any equation about KP's development

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8/12/2017  11:14 AM
I have no idea why anyone wants KP to play the 5.
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8/12/2017  11:52 AM
PhilinLA wrote:I have no idea why anyone wants KP to play the 5.

Its a no brainer. You put Porzinigis in a 4-1 set--you open up the game for the other 4 guys and give KP all the room he needs. When we need to we can play KP with Willy (or Oquinn) together. I think if you give Porzinigis too much latitude to sit on the perimeter--hes more likely going to get hurt on drives--or just not live up to his billing.
We have to really good players there in Willy and KP--lets give them each a chance to flourish

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8/12/2017  12:17 PM
Why is Willy not a 4? I think he is the perfect 4 in the McHale mold.
EuroBasket 2017 - KP, Willy and Kuuz

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