WaltLongmire wrote:

fishmike wrote:where is the article your referring to Briggs?

Found in the Post article on Rose...the actual article isn't about Frank, but why Rose did not want to stay with the Knicks given their plans for him...

Assuming the Knicks wouldnt trade Frank for Kyrie because of this tabloid quote is about as big a stretch as it gets. I dont think there is any relevance here.

Nalod wrote:Everything is really quiet now.
Its like the Mooch took care of ALL the leaks!!!
No names being floated out for potential Kyrie trade. Until knicks say "We not involved", or "Frank will not be part of any conversation of a trade", then all but perhaps KP can be in a trade.
I know some fans can't contain themselves with the potential Melodrama of a deal, but the fact is its all really being done quite well.
with 3 or 4 teams potentially involved its good many players won't have to deal with trade rumors.
Melo seems to have gone into private mode, KP is in Latvia, and all is quiet until they tweet about themselves.
When something happens, Im sure Crush will let us know. That is unless Knicks1248 knows something Wojo don't

I have nothing..everyone has reported back to their respective corners..i expect to here crickets until september

wargames wrote:I know it's far from set in stone and would also require luck in the draft (would have to be top 5 minimum possibly #1) but Frank would be such a great PG next to both Luka Doncic and Timmy. He could work off ball and be the secondary ball handler while defending the opposing PG meaning Luka can focus on being the primary ball handler and defending the opposing SF. Also as a 3rd or 4th offensive option his ability to shoot the 3 well when open would make sure he wouldn't be a liability on the court either.

Vmart wrote:

fishmike wrote:

wargames wrote:I know it's far from set in stone and would also require luck in the draft (would have to be top 5 minimum possibly #1) but Frank would be such a great PG next to both Luka Doncic and Timmy. He could work off ball and be the secondary ball handler while defending the opposing PG meaning Luka can focus on being the primary ball handler and defending the opposing SF. Also as a 3rd or 4th offensive option his ability to shoot the 3 well when open would make sure he wouldn't be a liability on the court either.

thats the thing... when you are a big guard who can play the point, shoot the 3 and defend multiple spots you look good next to EVERYONE.

I don't want to give up Ntlikina in any deal. Honestly I'm not a big Irving fan I see a huge drop off in numbers if he becomes a Knick. Irving is a good player whose game gets elevated by the mere presence of LeBron. I feel that we as Knicks fan tend to overrate players on opposing teams I happen to believe that Irving is being overrated here. He isn't what this team needs. The Knicks need to develop the young players first and in a year or two they can think about adding someone to the core that will compliment them.

Kyrie is going to come here and just do what Melo did and Marbury did. I'm praying Kyrie doesn't end up here in NY. This is just more of the same.

I would take Kyrie as a hybrid guard-- I'm not going to over rate him but not going to under rate him either.
Carmelo Kuz oquinn and a 2019 # 1 pick restricted to 10 is my top offer( that offer is deep and fair)

Assets 100% off table
Willy G. kP. Frank N

BRIGGS wrote:

Vmart wrote:

fishmike wrote:

wargames wrote:I know it's far from set in stone and would also require luck in the draft (would have to be top 5 minimum possibly #1) but Frank would be such a great PG next to both Luka Doncic and Timmy. He could work off ball and be the secondary ball handler while defending the opposing PG meaning Luka can focus on being the primary ball handler and defending the opposing SF. Also as a 3rd or 4th offensive option his ability to shoot the 3 well when open would make sure he wouldn't be a liability on the court either.

thats the thing... when you are a big guard who can play the point, shoot the 3 and defend multiple spots you look good next to EVERYONE.

I don't want to give up Ntlikina in any deal. Honestly I'm not a big Irving fan I see a huge drop off in numbers if he becomes a Knick. Irving is a good player whose game gets elevated by the mere presence of LeBron. I feel that we as Knicks fan tend to overrate players on opposing teams I happen to believe that Irving is being overrated here. He isn't what this team needs. The Knicks need to develop the young players first and in a year or two they can think about adding someone to the core that will compliment them.

Kyrie is going to come here and just do what Melo did and Marbury did. I'm praying Kyrie doesn't end up here in NY. This is just more of the same.

I would take Kyrie as a hybrid guard-- I'm not going to over rate him but not going to under rate him either.
Carmelo Kuz oquinn and a 2019 # 1 pick restricted to 10 is my top offer( that offer is deep and fair)

Assets 100% off table
Willy G. kP. Frank N

I'd do this deal. but it says more about me not loving Kyrie. If he wants to be "The man", then we'd have to think he will see that KP becomes a god, Frank grows up nice, and willy is fed as well!
As for Cav's, they get Melo to replace some of the scoring but the fact is I doubt Melo would go there unless he he plans on opting out if Lebron leaves.
Bascially Melo can chose the money or winning.
Quite frankly, Cleve has to be able to do better.

HOUSTON is the only option.

SupremeCommander wrote:Counting on Frank for extended minutes would be a mistake on multiple fronts... first off, I wouldn't expect any actual winning if he played 25+mpg. Second off, it would probably hinder his chances of developing. I certainly hope they give him time because while he went up against decent completion he really didn't play all that much. I hope they don't rush because he has the size and length to eventually be a nice piece but I just don't see it this year

Ummm, Frank probably played as much as the top 3 draft picks COMBINED. He's ready to be a starter for us from day one, even at his ridiculously young age. He's got great fundamentals.

nyk4ever wrote:briggs loves creating trades sending melo to places he has said he won't waive his no-trade clause for.

HOUSTON is the only option.

Instead of NTC meaning No Trade Clause, think of it meaning Not Trading Clause. When approached from a different angle, it takes on a whole, new perspective. What if the attitude from Knicks management was that "we are not trading Carmelo"? Trust me, doors would open.