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nixluva
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7/28/2017  3:16 PM
Knixkik wrote:
smackeddog wrote:Good stuff, takes the pressure off frank and ensures a nice tanking season

You say that, but we won't win any less games than last year.

Yeah it's almost like some are expecting another 17 win season. I don't see this team being bad enough to get a top 5 Lotto spot. Depends on what happens with Melo.
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7/28/2017  3:17 PM
smackeddog wrote:Good stuff, takes the pressure off frank and ensures a nice tanking season

yup, I bet your looking forward to continue the losing culture, losing habits, poor development..I know KP excited about that.

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7/28/2017  3:19 PM
smackeddog wrote:
Knixkik wrote:
smackeddog wrote:Good stuff, takes the pressure off frank and ensures a nice tanking season

You say that, but we won't win any less games than last year.



Want to bet? Once we're shot of melo (we aren't getting anything of significance back), we have a terrible roster. Our youngsters are going to need a few years.

if that was the case a deal would have been done already

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7/28/2017  3:22 PM
Love it - we're going to suck next year... I'd rather let Frank come off the bench until/if he's ready
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7/28/2017  3:27 PM    LAST EDITED: 7/28/2017  3:30 PM
SocraticBallin22 wrote:Sessions is getting paid the same as Drose, who are both getting paid less than Ron Baker

Is the Ron Baker signing even official yet??

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7/28/2017  3:29 PM
is he good on D?
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7/28/2017  3:29 PM
smackeddog wrote:
Knixkik wrote:
smackeddog wrote:Good stuff, takes the pressure off frank and ensures a nice tanking season

You say that, but we won't win any less games than last year.



Want to bet? Once we're shot of melo (we aren't getting anything of significance back), we have a terrible roster. Our youngsters are going to need a few years.

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7/28/2017  3:30 PM
knicks1248 wrote:
smackeddog wrote:Good stuff, takes the pressure off frank and ensures a nice tanking season

yup, I bet your looking forward to continue the losing culture, losing habits, poor development..I know KP excited about that.

The high pick will make it all worthwhile
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7/28/2017  3:34 PM
I agree- I think this means we're out of the Kyrie sweeps (I HOPE) and we're not trading Melo (better than getting junk back).
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7/28/2017  3:37 PM
nixluva wrote:
Knixkik wrote:
smackeddog wrote:Good stuff, takes the pressure off frank and ensures a nice tanking season

You say that, but we won't win any less games than last year.

Yeah it's almost like some are expecting another 17 win season. I don't see this team being bad enough to get a top 5 Lotto spot. Depends on what happens with Melo.

I'm not seeing what you are nixluva- we have a worse roster than last year:

Pg: Frank (not ready), sessions (not much) and baker
SG: Lee, Dotson
SF: Tim Jr (better at SG), Lance, possibly harkless, Kuz
PF: KP, KOQ
C: Noah (done), Willy

That's a worse roster than last year, I think. That's not a bad thing- we need a top 3 pick
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7/28/2017  3:41 PM
franco12 wrote:I agree- I think this means we're out of the Kyrie sweeps (I HOPE) and we're not trading Melo (better than getting junk back).

Or it means we're getting ready to trade melo and frank for kyrie ... but I hope your right, I'd rather just sign kyrie out right in two years and keep all of our picks.

So it's either

Frank,baker,sessions
Or

Kyrie,baker,sessions

Either way sessions is a great third pg off the bench .
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7/28/2017  3:49 PM
reub wrote:I think that Frank will start from day one, as it should be.

Yeah, Sessions is a backup. He's been one of the better backup in the league during most of his career, but he's a spot starter at best. His defense sucks, but I think his shooting will bounce back. I saw him a lot with the wizards and he was good. Don't expect him to perform better than that at his age, but he's a legit professional. I like the signing.

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7/28/2017  3:51 PM
smackeddog wrote:
nixluva wrote:
Knixkik wrote:
smackeddog wrote:Good stuff, takes the pressure off frank and ensures a nice tanking season

You say that, but we won't win any less games than last year.

Yeah it's almost like some are expecting another 17 win season. I don't see this team being bad enough to get a top 5 Lotto spot. Depends on what happens with Melo.

I'm not seeing what you are nixluva- we have a worse roster than last year:

Pg: Frank (not ready), sessions (not much) and baker
SG: Lee, Dotson
SF: Tim Jr (better at SG), Lance, possibly harkless, Kuz
PF: KP, KOQ
C: Noah (done), Willy

That's a worse roster than last year, I think. That's not a bad thing- we need a top 3 pick

I still think kp starts at center just like he was doing at the end of last season. he's way to slow to guard pf's. Willy is a power forward the guy is only 6'10 just cause he has a low post game doesn't make him a center and he's quick enough to guard opposing 4's . and Lee is coming off the bench as a back up 2, there is no way thjr starts at sf, he's our starting sg for sure.

Noah is our back up center no way he starts he's a 15-20 min back up


KP,Noah
Willy,KOQ
Lance,kuz
Thjr,Lee,Dotson
Frank,baker,sessions
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7/28/2017  3:52 PM
franco12 wrote:I agree- I think this means we're out of the Kyrie sweeps (I HOPE) and we're not trading Melo (better than getting junk back).

frank or wiily gomez will be part of any Kyrie deal, why would you think this would effect a kyrie trade?

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7/28/2017  3:55 PM
knicks1248 wrote:
franco12 wrote:I agree- I think this means we're out of the Kyrie sweeps (I HOPE) and we're not trading Melo (better than getting junk back).

frank or wiily gomez will be part of any Kyrie deal, why would you think this would effect a kyrie trade?

why are you still basing your points on make believe?
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7/28/2017  4:04 PM
when he was with the bucks i use to think he was solid..How old is he now?
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7/28/2017  4:11 PM
dwiley20 wrote:when he was with the bucks i use to think he was solid..How old is he now?
He's 30. Year before last he played 82 as Wall's backup in Wash and had an excellent season. This is a great value add. We dont know what happens in a Melo trade but we needed a guy who knows how to play in the league. Sessions will give Hornacek a lot of options. This was a good add for the coach as well.
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7/28/2017  4:17 PM
we will win around 42 games next year
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7/28/2017  4:18 PM
smackeddog wrote:
nixluva wrote:
Knixkik wrote:
smackeddog wrote:Good stuff, takes the pressure off frank and ensures a nice tanking season

You say that, but we won't win any less games than last year.

Yeah it's almost like some are expecting another 17 win season. I don't see this team being bad enough to get a top 5 Lotto spot. Depends on what happens with Melo.

I'm not seeing what you are nixluva- we have a worse roster than last year:

Pg: Frank (not ready), sessions (not much) and baker
SG: Lee, Dotson
SF: Tim Jr (better at SG), Lance, possibly harkless, Kuz
PF: KP, KOQ
C: Noah (done), Willy

That's a worse roster than last year, I think. That's not a bad thing- we need a top 3 pick


I get ya. Thing is I don't think the loss of Melo and Rose will make that much of a difference to the W/L column. It matters who comes in for Melo in a trade. Also I expect better production from other players like KP and Willy. If you look at WS and WS/48 THJ is basically capable of replacing a good amount of Melo's production and KP should improve his production as others with more of a role. I don't think this team is going to be substantially worse than last year's roster.


Rk	Player	                Pos	Age	Tm	G       WS▼	WS/48	
77	Tim Hardaway	        SG	24	ATL	79	4.8	.107
79	Carmelo Anthony	        SF	32	NYK	74	4.7	.089
90	Kristaps Porzingis	PF	21	NYK	66	4.5	.100		
95	Courtney Lee	        SG	31	NYK	77	4.2	.081
116	Kyle O'Quinn	        C	26	NYK	79	3.9	.151
138	Willy Hernangomez	C	22	NYK	72	3.4	.123
168	Derrick Rose	        PG	28	NYK	64	3.0	.068

I think this team will defend much better as well. Internal growth will be key to any improvement outside of a deal for Kyrie.
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7/28/2017  4:20 PM
knicks1248 wrote:
smackeddog wrote:Good stuff, takes the pressure off frank and ensures a nice tanking season

yup, I bet your looking forward to continue the losing culture, losing habits, poor development..I know KP excited about that.

What do you want to happen? What will make this a winning culture, building winning habits and better development?

YOU have to start somewhere.... nothing is currently happening that is that bad to continue to cry like a female k-9. We have plenty off things too feel good about... we still have a long journey but so far there's no need for the novela

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