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EnySpree
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7/24/2017  7:28 AM
We need a vet point guard.... he's most experienced on the market. He's a tall pg that's had ups and downs in the nba. He has new York experience from being in Brooklyn. Would he be willing to hangout for a while with us? We're not winning anything... but judging Deron playoff performance this year, he's not wining anything either #ohsnap
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7/24/2017  8:12 AM    LAST EDITED: 7/24/2017  8:15 AM
He is better than everyone else we have by a wide margin. He averaged 13 and 7 for the Mavericks and shot 40% from 3 with the Cavs. He is as good as Chris Paul when compared to Ron Baker
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7/24/2017  8:42 AM
Jmpasq wrote:He is better than everyone else we have by a wide margin. He averaged 13 and 7 for the Mavericks and shot 40% from 3 with the Cavs. He is as good as Chris Paul when compared to Ron Baker

I wouldnt mind him. He'd be a perfect fill-in as we wait for Frank to get acclimated. Unfortunately, i think we can only offer him the vet minimum and hes not coming for that.

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7/24/2017  9:00 AM
Good idea. He'd be a good fit.
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7/24/2017  9:18 AM
He hated living in NYC his first time playing here, why would he want to return now?
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7/24/2017  9:31 AM
Welpee wrote:He hated living in NYC his first time playing here, why would he want to return now?

He would be a good pick up. You're he hated NY but he nice addition.
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7/24/2017  9:48 AM
Since he played for NJ, he is familiar with the area, and he might be interested in coming on a one-year deal, as he will get plenty of minutes. In fact, NY is probably the only team that might be willing to guarantee him a starting position. My only concern would be his mindset as to whether he is interested in being a mentor to Frank. If he is willing to buy in to that, I would do it. He is probably the best we could get at this point.
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7/24/2017  10:32 AM
TheGame wrote:Since he played for NJ, he is familiar with the area, and he might be interested in coming on a one-year deal, as he will get plenty of minutes. In fact, NY is probably the only team that might be willing to guarantee him a starting position. My only concern would be his mindset as to whether he is interested in being a mentor to Frank. If he is willing to buy in to that, I would do it. He is probably the best we could get at this point.

I think the ability to start and play major minutes would work against us. He's been bartered the past several years and his body probably can't take that abuse anymore. At the vets minimum, he'll have plenty of choices. Plus, the Nets are still paying him. We'd have to make a substantial offer for him to even glance in this direction.
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7/24/2017  10:34 AM
No thanks. I'd rather have T.Ennis, R.Sessions, CJ Watson, B.Jennings over D.Williams who's been a coach killer more then once. I would really like T.Ennis over any of them cause i don't think he's gotten a fair chance to show what he can do yet cause he keeps getting added as a piece in trades but the Lakers gave him some good floor time for like the last month of their season last year and he played well.
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7/24/2017  11:27 AM
newyorker4ever wrote:No thanks. I'd rather have T.Ennis, R.Sessions, CJ Watson, B.Jennings over D.Williams who's been a coach killer more then once. I would really like T.Ennis over any of them cause i don't think he's gotten a fair chance to show what he can do yet cause he keeps getting added as a piece in trades but the Lakers gave him some good floor time for like the last month of their season last year and he played well.

I'm with adding Ennis... but he's a similiar age to Frank. They'd be battling each other for minutes. I guess that's always a good thing

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7/24/2017  11:30 AM
He has nothing left in the tank. He was painful watching in the playoffs.
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7/24/2017  11:32 AM
Vmart wrote:
Welpee wrote:He hated living in NYC his first time playing here, why would he want to return now?

He would be a good pick up. You're he hated NY but he nice addition.

Yeah, from a talent perspective I would be fine with it. I just remember him saying some harsh things about living in NYC when he was here and since he's a free agent what would we have to offer to convince him to come back to NYC at a bargain basement contract?
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7/24/2017  11:39 AM
NYKBocker wrote:He has nothing left in the tank. He was painful watching in the playoffs.

This!
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7/24/2017  11:43 AM
Im thinking Perry in his tree would have a mentor type in mind. I don't know what kind of teammate Deron is and his mindset to mentor a kid.
From a talent perspective he "Had it" and sometimes one can mentor. Or be a dick about it.
Derek Rose at 2.1 mil in Clev is a very interesting development. Not thinking we want him back but the price is fascinating to me.

Melo in trade will likely bring a vet guard in return, or an asset we can use to trade for one.
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7/24/2017  11:43 AM
Does he play any D at this point in his career?

Have to say that he might improve our tanking quest, which must be considered, while at the same time providing Frank with some guidance.

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7/24/2017  11:53 AM
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TheGame wrote:Since he played for NJ, he is familiar with the area, and he might be interested in coming on a one-year deal, as he will get plenty of minutes. In fact, NY is probably the only team that might be willing to guarantee him a starting position. My only concern would be his mindset as to whether he is interested in being a mentor to Frank. If he is willing to buy in to that, I would do it. He is probably the best we could get at this point.

I think the ability to start and play major minutes would work against us. He's been bartered the past several years and his body probably can't take that abuse anymore. At the vets minimum, he'll have plenty of choices. Plus, the Nets are still paying him. We'd have to make a substantial offer for him to even glance in this direction.

You are not thinking like a player. Most players want to play as many minutes as the coach will give them. Now I am sure at this point in his career he is not looking to play 32-35 minutes a game, but I am sure he is looking to play around 20-25 minutes. I think NY may be the only place that would say you are probably better than our young PGs so we are willing to promise you 20-25 minutes if you are healthy. That would be of interest to a player who does not want to be buried on the bench. Now I will agree that he also probably wants a championship, but I honestly don't know if playoff teams view him as an upgrade over their current backup. The Cavs were not rushing to resign him and no one else has signed him this deep into free agency.

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7/24/2017  12:29 PM
TheGame wrote:
BigDaddyG wrote:
TheGame wrote:Since he played for NJ, he is familiar with the area, and he might be interested in coming on a one-year deal, as he will get plenty of minutes. In fact, NY is probably the only team that might be willing to guarantee him a starting position. My only concern would be his mindset as to whether he is interested in being a mentor to Frank. If he is willing to buy in to that, I would do it. He is probably the best we could get at this point.

I think the ability to start and play major minutes would work against us. He's been bartered the past several years and his body probably can't take that abuse anymore. At the vets minimum, he'll have plenty of choices. Plus, the Nets are still paying him. We'd have to make a substantial offer for him to even glance in this direction.

You are not thinking like a player. Most players want to play as many minutes as the coach will give them. Now I am sure at this point in his career he is not looking to play 32-35 minutes a game, but I am sure he is looking to play around 20-25 minutes. I think NY may be the only place that would say you are probably better than our young PGs so we are willing to promise you 20-25 minutes if you are healthy. That would be of interest to a player who does not want to be buried on the bench. Now I will agree that he also probably wants a championship, but I honestly don't know if playoff teams view him as an upgrade over their current backup. The Cavs were not rushing to resign him and no one else has signed him this deep into free agency.

He's a vet with high mileage who probably wants to get as many meaningful games as his legs can manage. There's no rush for him to sign since he's already getting paid by the Nets. There are teams like OKC,Milwaukee, the Wizards, Portland etc. that can use a guard like him off the bench. Maybe he would see us as a way to showcase his talents so we can waive him and he can sign with another team. I don't really see us appealing to him at this stage in his career. Plus, he's not really a NY area type of guy. Maybe I'm wrong? I wouldn't mind him.

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7/24/2017  12:29 PM
I think it's a mistake. He didn't handle BK very well and at this point in his career to take less money and be subject to the tabloids doesn't make much sense for him.

Ty Lawson is the best player available and he needs to get his career back on track. It's a low risk move and it would give him spotlight he never had and a chance to play into a contract.
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7/24/2017  12:39 PM
MS wrote:I think it's a mistake. He didn't handle BK very well and at this point in his career to take less money and be subject to the tabloids doesn't make much sense for him.

Ty Lawson is the best player available and he needs to get his career back on track. It's a low risk move and it would give him spotlight he never had and a chance to play into a contract.

Lawson? Has the talent, but what kind of guy is he? Personality? All I know is this guy has some drinking problems and I don't know if he is over it?
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7/24/2017  12:52 PM
Nalod wrote:
MS wrote:I think it's a mistake. He didn't handle BK very well and at this point in his career to take less money and be subject to the tabloids doesn't make much sense for him.

Ty Lawson is the best player available and he needs to get his career back on track. It's a low risk move and it would give him spotlight he never had and a chance to play into a contract.

Lawson? Has the talent, but what kind of guy is he? Personality? All I know is this guy has some drinking problems and I don't know if he is over it?


Yeah, but he is more likely to sign here for a minimum. He's expressed excitement about coming here in the past.
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