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BRIGGS
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7/23/2017  3:56 AM    LAST EDITED: 7/23/2017  3:57 AM
They almost always backfire

The Knicks-- if they want a player would best be served by internal growth and opening up cap space
We don't have Lebron James or a super star on this team to compliment anyone. We need to be opportunistic AND patient in the process.

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7/23/2017  6:37 AM    LAST EDITED: 7/23/2017  6:37 AM
BRIGGS wrote:They almost always backfire

The Knicks-- if they want a player would best be served by internal growth and opening up cap space
We don't have Lebron James or a super star on this team to compliment anyone. We need to be opportunistic AND patient in the process.


We traded like 4 starters and 2 lottery picks for Melo . If it costs us Melo and an unprotected pick so be it. Thats not a ridiculous price
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7/23/2017  6:46 AM
BRIGGS wrote:They almost always backfire

The Knicks-- if they want a player would best be served by internal growth and opening up cap space
We don't have Lebron James or a super star on this team to compliment anyone. We need to be opportunistic AND patient in the process.

First, are you talking about a potential Kyrie trade?

I think that is the definition of opportunistic.

We need to move Melo, and we have a chance to land a 25 year old franchise impacting talent.

Now, patient is whether we splurge and over pay- which we can't do.

If it's Melo and one draft pick and some marginal pieces (Lance Thomas, Courtney Lee, etc.), then I think that is potentially great value.

Once we start adding more draft picks and core players (Willy, KP, Frank, etc.), then you're in starphuck mode and trouble.
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7/23/2017  1:10 PM
Briggs is mostly right. Lakers did a huge trade for Jabber and they had to build on that, which they did magnificently!!! Milwaukee in the Sydney Moncrief era made some noise, but not much...
Cowboy's raped Vikings in the Herschel Walker trade.
It's why celts have not gone big yet on a trade.

In fact If I'm Cavs, I'm calling them first about Kylie. Isiah Thomas would have to be part of that deal.
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7/23/2017  2:14 PM
Jmpasq wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:They almost always backfire

The Knicks-- if they want a player would best be served by internal growth and opening up cap space
We don't have Lebron James or a super star on this team to compliment anyone. We need to be opportunistic AND patient in the process.


We traded like 4 starters...

Wrong.

...and 2 lottery picks for Melo .

Wrong.
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7/23/2017  2:18 PM
Knickoftime wrote:
Jmpasq wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:They almost always backfire

The Knicks-- if they want a player would best be served by internal growth and opening up cap space
We don't have Lebron James or a super star on this team to compliment anyone. We need to be opportunistic AND patient in the process.


We traded like 4 starters...

Wrong.

...and 2 lottery picks for Melo .

Wrong.

Moz wasn't a starter so the 4 starters statement is definitely wrong. The Knicks only traded one first round pick out right in the Melo trade. They did trade two players taken in the lottery, Felton and Gallo. Moz was third string for a lot of his time in Denver.
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7/23/2017  2:19 PM
BRIGGS wrote:They almost always backfire

You weren't advocating trading Porzingis?

Firsts for Bledsoe?
Knickoftime
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7/23/2017  2:23 PM
CrushAlot wrote:
Knickoftime wrote:
Jmpasq wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:They almost always backfire

The Knicks-- if they want a player would best be served by internal growth and opening up cap space
We don't have Lebron James or a super star on this team to compliment anyone. We need to be opportunistic AND patient in the process.


We traded like 4 starters...

Wrong.

...and 2 lottery picks for Melo .

Wrong.

Moz wasn't a starter so the 4 starters statement is definitely wrong.

They swapped Felton for Billups.

On an even medium deep, good, balanced team, Gallo and WC shouldn't have been both starters.

They effectively traded 1 starter (2, if you prefer to be literal) and 1 lottery pick, since (and correct me if I'm wrong), the swapped picks both turned into lottery picks.
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7/23/2017  3:54 PM
Knickoftime wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:They almost always backfire

You weren't advocating trading Porzingis?

Firsts for Bledsoe?

Yes if the purported trade for KP was Josh Jackson and additional #1s to me it's a no brainer.

Yes I would trade a restricted #1 and a 2 for Bledsoe

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7/23/2017  4:09 PM
Knickoftime wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
Knickoftime wrote:
Jmpasq wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:They almost always backfire

The Knicks-- if they want a player would best be served by internal growth and opening up cap space
We don't have Lebron James or a super star on this team to compliment anyone. We need to be opportunistic AND patient in the process.


We traded like 4 starters...

Wrong.

...and 2 lottery picks for Melo .

Wrong.

Moz wasn't a starter so the 4 starters statement is definitely wrong.

They swapped Felton for Billups.

On an even medium deep, good, balanced team, Gallo and WC shouldn't have been both starters.

They effectively traded 1 starter (2, if you prefer to be literal) and 1 lottery pick, since (and correct me if I'm wrong), the swapped picks both turned into lottery picks.

Correct, somehow people never mention Billups

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Knickoftime
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7/23/2017  4:14 PM
BRIGGS wrote:
Knickoftime wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:They almost always backfire

You weren't advocating trading Porzingis?

Firsts for Bledsoe?

Yes if the purported trade for KP was Josh Jackson and additional #1s to me it's a no brainer.

Yes I would trade a restricted #1 and a 2 for Bledsoe

So then what you mean is "huge asset trades never work"... unless you propose them?
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